Ted Haggert: "I over repented."

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Via_Dolorosa said:
Is it possible to over repent?
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His choice of words is poor, but what I think he means is that he expected forgiveness and consequently abased himself when accused. When forgiveness hasn’t come from many quarters, even years later, he now regrets not being more defensive when his misdeeds first came to light.
 
from the story:
“Tiger Woods needs to golf. Michael Vick needs to be playing football,” Mr. Haggard said as his new congregation joined him and Gayle in their backyard for a post-worship picnic. Little kids, shrieking with joy, splashed in the pool. Men grilled burgers. Women set out chicken salad.
“Ted Haggard,” Mr. Haggard said, “needs to be leading a church.”
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That sounds like pride, worship of one’s self-image which is unfortunately not uncommon in our culture.
We’re so used to identifying what we do with what we are that such pride is an almost inevitable byproduct.
 
“Over-repented”?? Is that the newest, hippest phrase?

Many, many years ago my husband and I saw Haggert on the 700 club, or one of those shows and he was ranting and raving about homosexuality. My husband turned to me and said he knew that Haggert must be gay because he was acting so “anti-gay”. Lo and behold, hubby was right!
 
this guy Ted never ceases to amaze me.

if he has another church, he must have followers. i agree, very sad.
 
I currently live in Colorado Springs, CO…they guys new Church is growing fast. I can’t forgive him because he’s never done anything to me.
 
Kuan_Yin said:
“Over-repented”?? Is that the newest, hippest phrase?

Many, many years ago my husband and I saw Haggert on the 700 club, or one of those shows and he was ranting and raving about homosexuality. My husband turned to me and said he knew that Haggert must be gay because he was acting so “anti-gay”. Lo and behold, hubby was right

Here’s a study that links homophobia with homosexual arousal:

philosophy-religion.org/handouts/homophobia.htm
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Guys like Haggert, Dollar, and the rest crack me up.

But not nearly as much as the people that follow them.

I will never understand why these otherwise very intelligent people cannot see right through them.
 
Next time I go to confession, I should ask my priest if I am over-repenting.
 
Via_Dolorosa said:
Kuan Yin;6883216 said:
“Over-repented”?? Is that the newest, hippest phrase?

Many, many years ago my husband and I saw Haggert on the 700 club, or one of those shows and he was ranting and raving about homosexuality. My husband turned to me and said he knew that Haggert must be gay because he was acting so “anti-gay”. Lo and behold, hubby was right

Here’s a study that links homophobia with homosexual arousal:

philosophy-religion.org/handouts/homophobia.htm
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Ah the old canard that those who believe homosexual behavior is sinful actually have homosexual tendencies themselves. Like charges of racism such a charge is designed to bring the discussion to a screeching halt. There is ,of course , no evidence that this is true despite this monumental study of exactly 35 individuals who the authors arbitrarily decided were Homophobic.
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Kuan_Yin said:
“Over-repented”?? Is that the newest, hippest phrase?

Many, many years ago my husband and I saw Haggert on the 700 club, or one of those shows and he was ranting and raving about homosexuality. My husband turned to me and said he knew that Haggert must be gay because he was acting so “anti-gay”. Lo and behold, hubby was right!
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And your husband would know this because?
 
estesbob said:
Via Dolorosa;6883851:
Ah the old canard that those who believe homosexual behavior is sinful actually have homosexual tendencies themselves. Like charges of racism such a charge is designed to bring the discussion to a screeching halt. There is ,of course , no evidence that this is true despite this monumental
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study of exactly 35 individuals who the authors arbitrarily decided were Homophobic.

I think there is a difference between thinking it is sinful and really trying “stomp it out” like Haggert was doing, it was like he was trying stomp out a piece of himself
estesbob said:
And your husband would know this because?
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He just had a hunch and he was right. He had 2 friends growing up…real ladies men and both hated homosexuality, I mean really hated it…and I’m sure you know what is to follow, they are both with partners and are very much out of the closet.

I don’t think one can prove that everyone who is anti-gay is really gay, actually that would be silly, but when I do see a really anti gay person… I wonder… Even if its only for a second, but it does go through my mind.
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Fair warning to Catholics-Be very, very careful about critiquing another preacher for “sexual sins.”

No, I’m not saying don’t talk about him or anything else. What I am saying it perhaps we should be very careful to throw stones. Our own hosue hasn’t been that clean lately.
 
Kuan_Yin said:
I don’t think one can prove that everyone who is anti-gay is really gay, actually that would be silly, but when I do see a really anti gay person… I wonder… Even if its only for a second, but it does go through my mind.
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Its a reasonable suspicion. As Shakespeare observed in his play Macbeth:
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

However, I think we should be willing to forgive Ted Haggard for his past sins. Wouldn’t we want others to do the same for us?
 
Dale_M said:
Its a reasonable suspicion. As Shakespeare observed in his play Macbeth:
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

However, I think we should be willing to forgive Ted Haggard for his past sins. Wouldn’t we want others to do the same for us?
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So is it your contention that anybody that vehemently opposes something is actually supporting it??? It is interesting that only see this argument advanced when homosexual behavior is being discussed. When somebody opposes abortion, for instance, nobody claims that they really favor it. As I said in my opinion such accusations are nothing more than attempt to stop the discussion
 
estesbob said:
So is it your contention that anybody that vehemently opposes something is actually supporting it??? It is interesting that only see this argument advanced when homosexual behavior is being discussed. When somebody opposes abortion, for instance, nobody claims that they really favor it. As I said in my opinion such accusations are nothing more than attempt to stop the discussion
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I have no doubt that both Kuan Yin and Via Dolorosa would accept the fact that they are racists since they hate racists so much. They *obviously *have been protesting too much for it to be geniune rejection of racism. 😉

Edit add: Oh…and they are also closeted Fox News lovers. 😛
 
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