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This may sound rather funny, but I’m serious. For married women, how do you keep from telling your spouse what to do? I do this a lot. It seems like he doesn’t think about things and I have to tell him what to do. :oNot just household chores and such but how to act! For example, I might tell him to stop spending so much time watching crime shows on TV.

What are your thoughts? Is that just normal? Is it disrespectful? If I ask him he’ll just say he doesn’t know. Should we be trying to bite our tongue? I’ve noticed myself a lot doing this. Like when he is driving, I just “react” and tell him to stop tailgating. I am trying to stop but don’t know if I ever can. And in my mind sometimes I think he needs to hear it. But I would certainly be annoyed if he did it to me as much as I do it to him. But then I’m more thoughtful so it’s not necessary! ;)Wondering how other women deal with this.
 
Perhaps the operative word here is “tell”. In may experience it has been far better to “ask”. My husband never did take “tell” well.😉
 
Anything to do with well being of the family and safety, i guess you don’t have much choice. Tail gating can lead to serious accident. If you don’t have time to stop, you are toast.

I think you are doing what you can and if your husband has issue with this, you certainly can discuss what is right or wrong.

I feel that it comes about balance and respect of his dignity, just present it as asking as it was proposed versus telling. Perhaps, if this is something that has nothing to do for the well being of the family or safety, you could probably do your best to be patient instead.

All the best!
 
This may sound rather funny, but I’m serious. For married women, how do you keep from telling your spouse what to do? I do this a lot. It seems like he doesn’t think about things and I have to tell him what to do. :oNot just household chores and such but how to act! For example, I might tell him to stop spending so much time watching crime shows on TV.

What are your thoughts? Is that just normal? Is it disrespectful? If I ask him he’ll just say he doesn’t know. Should we be trying to bite our tongue? I’ve noticed myself a lot doing this. Like when he is driving, I just “react” and tell him to stop tailgating. I am trying to stop but don’t know if I ever can. And in my mind sometimes I think he needs to hear it. But I would certainly be annoyed if he did it to me as much as I do it to him. But then I’m more thoughtful so it’s not necessary! ;)Wondering how other women deal with this.
Treat him the way you would want to be treated. Would you want him to tell you how to spend your free time? Tell you how to drive? Tell you how to cook? Tell you how to act?

If I was your husband and you criticized my driving, I would pull over and hand you the keys so we could both be relaxed and happy. I wouldn’t feel the need to tell you how to drive.

If you didn’t like the way I cooked, I’d simply let you do the cooking. Don’t like the way I clean? Ok, you can do it.

A common reaction from a male perspective to constant criticism, is to simply stop and let the complainer do it to their satisfaction. Just my .02.
 
A common reaction from a male perspective to constant criticism, is to simply stop and let the complainer do it to their satisfaction. Just my .02.
This. I’ve seen it many times. Then the complaint becomes “he does nothing.”

I’m not married so you can take this with a grain of salt, but you aren’t his mother. You’re his wife. Men do things differently from women – not right, not wrong; not better, not worse. Just different. So you need to decide if what he’s doing is truly causing a risk of harm or if it’s just not what you want to do or the way you would do it or…

There was an episode of Home Improvement years ago that really illustrates this. Jill was wanting to go back to school so Tim was taking over more things at the house because she was away more. He wasn’t doing things the way she did them or wanted them done and was berating him for it – one of the things was he gave the kids lunch money instead of fixing their lunch. He got in her face and said, “The kids were fed. They didn’t go hungry. If you are going to want my help, you’re going to have to back off and let me do things my way.” I’m paraphrasing it, but that’s the gist of the conversation.

I’m not saying that that’s going on in your house, but you really have to look at what you think is truly important and is it okay that he does things his way for the most part or do you just want everything done your way.
 
This may sound rather funny, but I’m serious. For married women, how do you keep from telling your spouse what to do? I do this a lot. It seems like he doesn’t think about things and I have to tell him what to do. :oNot just household chores and such but how to act! For example, I might tell him to stop spending so much time watching crime shows on TV.
reaks of a control freak, I ought to know, i’ve been married to one.
 
It is still difficult sometimes to keep my mouth shut, but I’m getting better at it. 🤷

What you’re doing* is* disrespectful, but it sounds like you do it more out of habit than anything; I don’t think you* intend *to be disrespectful, so that’s a good start. Now you just need to break the habit.

Since you’re generally thoughtful, then it shouldn’t be too difficult, but it will take effort and persistence. You need to catch yourself every time it happens, and apologize immediately. (Yes, every single time–even if you don’t realize it until later, go apologize ASAP after you realize it.) The next step is to start reminding yourself and him that you trust him, that you respect him, that you are proud of him–so find ways to express these things.

Then, you have to learn to catch yourself before the “correction” comes out of your mouth, and just hold your tongue. I usually find something else to do, and say a quick prayer, until I can speak to him without that “motherly” tone. Sometimes I need to remind myself that my husband is an intelligent man, and he is capable of learning to do such-and-such without my help. My way is not the only “right” way. 👍

Remember, he’s a grown man. When you married him, did you want to marry him because he needed another mother, or did you marry him to be his wife, his helpmate? 😉

Most things, you need to trust him to do himself, even if you think he’ll make a mistake. If he does make a mistake, trust him to fix it and learn from it. See, showing respect and faith in him is showing him love. We women want to be loved unconditionally, but most of us don’t respect our husbands unconditionally! I know we tend to think we’re being loving by trying to help him avoid mistakes, but in reality, we are undermining his confidence and his ability to do it himself, and that’s not loving. It’s arrogant. It’s like saying, “I know better than you do; you have nothing to teach me. I know the only right way, and that’s my way.” Is this the message we really want to send to the men we love? 😦

If he’s doing something that could cause harm to you or him (such as tailgating–I admit, that really makes me nervous, too!), try something like, “Maybe this is silly, but it really makes me nervous when the car in front of us looks so close to us at this speed. Would you back off a little bit, please, so it doesn’t look so close and I can relax?” This way, you’re not saying, “I don’t trust you to get me there safely,” you’re saying, “I feel nervous about the way this situation appears; please help me feel more relaxed.” And when he does back off, remember to thank him with a smile.

If you like to read, I’d highly recommend, “Love and Respect,” by Dr. Emerson Eggerichs. It talks about why men need respect from their wives, and how we wives can show it (it also shows men how to love their wives, but that’s not the important part right now). I read over parts of it periodically to remind me what to do, how to do it, and most importantly, why to do it that way.

Remember that the bible calls husbands to love their wives, but we wives are called to respect our husbands. Why respect, and not love? This is because loving generally comes easy to wives, but respect… umm, yeah, not so much. This is the area most of us women really need to work on. In general, if we hold our husbands in contempt, we are being disobedient to God, unloving, and not half so wise as we think we are. :o

HTH! I will :gopray2: for you!
 
This may sound rather funny, but I’m serious. For married women, how do you keep from telling your spouse what to do? I do this a lot. It seems like he doesn’t think about things and I have to tell him what to do. :oNot just household chores and such but how to act! For example, I might tell him to stop spending so much time watching crime shows on TV.

What are your thoughts? Is that just normal? Is it disrespectful? If I ask him he’ll just say he doesn’t know. Should we be trying to bite our tongue? I’ve noticed myself a lot doing this. Like when he is driving, I just “react” and tell him to stop tailgating. I am trying to stop but don’t know if I ever can. And in my mind sometimes I think he needs to hear it. But I would certainly be annoyed if he did it to me as much as I do it to him. But then I’m more thoughtful so it’s not necessary! ;)Wondering how other women deal with this.
The most important thing is how he takes it. If he thinks reminders from you are a good thing, sort of a guidance system or a control tower from which he’d like to keep receiving direct comments stripped of blabbering “niceties”, and particularly if this allows him to speak just as directly to you, which you also appreciate, then provided that he has the right to renegotiate that or give you feedback on a “usually-yes-but-boy-oh-boy-not-today” basis, you don’t have to please anyone else concerning how you communicate. Some of us, after all, are very thankful to have someone speak the words we are hearing from that little voice in our head: You will thank yourself tomorrow if you turn off the boob tube off right now and get some sleep. We choose just that person who will tell us the truth in real time, and we do it on purpose. That is OK.

Having said that, research has shown that when the ratio of good comments to bad slips to less than five to one (yes, 5:1!), that is not a good sign for the health of a marriage. A ratio where criticisms outnumber praises is a major indicator of on-coming divorce. Constantly being told you are falling short gets old as the years wear on. Still, as long as you are correcting behavior that he agrees is not advisable, and not making any personal comments about him–“don’t you think you are following too close” or “oh, dear, it worries me when you drive so close to the car in front of you, some other drivers stop with just no warning” vs. “stop following too close, I shouldn’t even let you drive, you’re incompetent”–it is not so damaging. If you make any comments that ever attack him as a person or his overall competence at whatever he is doing, cut that out right now. That is really out of bounds.

Also, if you don’t like the way you are treating him, then make it a practice to apologize immediately when you slip. Remember that reason-then-apology is an apology, while apology-then-reason is an excuse. “I’m sorry but you…” is putting the blame on him. “You did such and so, but I still shouldn’t have…” puts the responsibility for your actions in the right place: on you. An even better apology deletes your so-called “reason”. An example: “Back off, you’re following too close! Oh, I’m sorry. You’re driving, you would drive better if I didn’t distract you with a play-by-play criticism. I’ll try to be quiet. You’ll get us there safely, I trust you.” A few doses of that medicine may make biting your tongue a lot easier. 😉
 
It is still difficult sometimes to keep my mouth shut, but I’m getting better at it. 🤷

What you’re doing* is* disrespectful, but it sounds like you do it more out of habit than anything; I don’t think you* intend *to be disrespectful, so that’s a good start. Now you just need to break the habit.

Since you’re generally thoughtful, then it shouldn’t be too difficult, but it will take effort and persistence. You need to catch yourself every time it happens, and apologize immediately. (Yes, every single time–even if you don’t realize it until later, go apologize ASAP after you realize it.) The next step is to start reminding yourself and him that you trust him, that you respect him, that you are proud of him–so find ways to express these things.

Then, you have to learn to catch yourself before the “correction” comes out of your mouth, and just hold your tongue. I usually find something else to do, and say a quick prayer, until I can speak to him without that “motherly” tone. Sometimes I need to remind myself that my husband is an intelligent man, and he is capable of learning to do such-and-such without my help. My way is not the only “right” way. 👍

Remember, he’s a grown man. When you married him, did you want to marry him because he needed another mother, or did you marry him to be his wife, his helpmate? 😉

Most things, you need to trust him to do himself, even if you think he’ll make a mistake. If he does make a mistake, trust him to fix it and learn from it. See, showing respect and faith in him is showing him love. We women want to be loved unconditionally, but most of us don’t respect our husbands unconditionally! I know we tend to think we’re being loving by trying to help him avoid mistakes, but in reality, we are undermining his confidence and his ability to do it himself, and that’s not loving. It’s arrogant. It’s like saying, “I know better than you do; you have nothing to teach me. I know the only right way, and that’s my way.” Is this the message we really want to send to the men we love? 😦

If he’s doing something that could cause harm to you or him (such as tailgating–I admit, that really makes me nervous, too!), try something like, “Maybe this is silly, but it really makes me nervous when the car in front of us looks so close to us at this speed. Would you back off a little bit, please, so it doesn’t look so close and I can relax?” This way, you’re not saying, “I don’t trust you to get me there safely,” you’re saying, “I feel nervous about the way this situation appears; please help me feel more relaxed.” And when he does back off, remember to thank him with a smile.

If you like to read, I’d highly recommend, “Love and Respect,” by Dr. Emerson Eggerichs. It talks about why men need respect from their wives, and how we wives can show it (it also shows men how to love their wives, but that’s not the important part right now). I read over parts of it periodically to remind me what to do, how to do it, and most importantly, why to do it that way.

Remember that the bible calls husbands to love their wives, but we wives are called to respect our husbands. Why respect, and not love? This is because loving generally comes easy to wives, but respect… umm, yeah, not so much. This is the area most of us women really need to work on. In general, if we hold our husbands in contempt, we are being disobedient to God, unloving, and not half so wise as we think we are. :o

HTH! I will :gopray2: for you!
Thanks, this is helpful. I’ll look up that book.

I’m not a “control freak” btw for those who said I was. Just saying… I really want to understand “respect” or I wouldn’t have posted. So you can lay off the accusations. 😉

I am also interested in hearing from MARRIED WOMEN about how to show respect. And also more about the catholic church teaching of “helping your spouse to heaven”. What does this look like for you? If your spouse is doing something not helpful to that, would you mention it?
 
Every time I start to get a little bossy, my husband says “Yes, mother.” (usually with a smile) It shuts me right up.

Is there a particular reason you don’t want him to be watching crime shows? I do think that is a bit much, but the tailgating thing is something that really bothers me too. It makes me feel like he doesn’t care about my safety, and when I ask him to stop he thinks it means I don’t trust him to drive, so we’re at a standstill on that one. So I usually drive.

It is hard to keep myself from acting like my husband’s mother instead of his wife sometimes. I think I’ve gotten better at it- for instance, with household chores I do not remind him anymore, I just let him do it on his own time and if I’m not happy with the timing or the way he does something I do it myself. It takes awhile to develop habits, so just start with one area where you normally tell him what to do and work on biting your tongue about that particular thing.
 
The most important thing is how he takes it. If he thinks reminders from you are a good thing, sort of a guidance system or a control tower from which he’d like to keep receiving direct comments stripped of blabbering “niceties”, and particularly if this allows him to speak just as directly to you, which you also appreciate, then provided that he has the right to renegotiate that or give you feedback on a “usually-yes-but-boy-oh-boy-not-today” basis, you don’t have to please anyone else concerning how you communicate. Some of us, after all, are very thankful to have someone speak the words we are hearing from that little voice in our head: You will thank yourself tomorrow if you turn off the boob tube off right now and get some sleep. We choose just that person who will tell us the truth in real time, and we do it on purpose. That is OK.

Having said that, research has shown that when the ratio of good comments to bad slips to less than five to one (yes, 5:1!), that is not a good sign for the health of a marriage. A ratio where criticisms outnumber praises is a major indicator of on-coming divorce. Constantly being told you are falling short gets old as the years wear on.

Also, if you don’t like the way you are treating him, then make it a practice to apologize immediately when you slip. Remember that reason-then-apology is an apology, while apology-then-reason is an excuse. “I’m sorry but you…” is putting the blame on him. “You did such and so, but I still shouldn’t have…” puts the responsibility for your actions in the right place: on you. An even better apology deletes your so-called “reason”. An example: “Back off, you’re following too close! Oh, I’m sorry. You’re driving, you would drive better if I didn’t distract you with a play-by-play criticism. I’ll try to be quiet. You’ll get us there safely, I trust you.” A few doses of that medicine may make biting your tongue a lot easier. 😉
Thanks, this is helpful. I will try this.
 
The most important thing is how he takes it. If he thinks reminders from you are a good thing, sort of a guidance system or a control tower from which he’d like to keep receiving direct comments stripped of blabbering “niceties”, and particularly if this allows him to speak just as directly to you, which you also appreciate, then provided that he has the right to renegotiate that or give you feedback on a “usually-yes-but-boy-oh-boy-not-today” basis, you don’t have to please anyone else concerning how you communicate. Some of us, after all, are very thankful to have someone speak the words we are hearing from that little voice in our head: You will thank yourself tomorrow if you turn off the boob tube off right now and get some sleep. We choose just that person who will tell us the truth in real time, and we do it on purpose. That is OK.

Having said that, research has shown that when the ratio of good comments to bad slips to less than five to one (yes, 5:1!), that is not a good sign for the health of a marriage. A ratio where criticisms outnumber praises is a major indicator of on-coming divorce. Constantly being told you are falling short gets old as the years wear on. Still, it is not so damaging as long as you are correcting behavior that he agrees is not advisable, and avoiding any negative personal implications about him–“don’t you think you are following too close” or “oh, dear, it worries me when you drive so close to the car in front of you, some other drivers stop with just no warning” vs. “stop following too close, I shouldn’t even let you drive, you’re incompetent”. If you make any comments that ever attack him as a person or his overall competence at whatever he is doing, cut that out right now. That is really out of bounds.

Also, if you don’t like the way you are treating him, then make it a practice to apologize immediately when you slip. Remember that reason-then-apology is an apology, while apology-then-reason is an excuse. “I’m sorry but you…” is putting the blame on him. “You did such and so, but I still shouldn’t have…” puts the responsibility for your actions in the right place: on you. An even better apology deletes your so-called “reason”. An example: “Back off, you’re following too close! Oh, I’m sorry. You’re driving, you would drive better if I didn’t distract you with a play-by-play criticism. I’ll try to be quiet. You’ll get us there safely, I trust you.” A few doses of that medicine may make biting your tongue a lot easier. 😉
 
I’m a member of a charismatic community who take a serious view of the descriptions of marriage by St. Paul in His Epistles.

They would suggest that the husband should be the Head of the Household, and the wife is his co-equal helper, but in a subordinate position.

I like to think of this very much like the ranks of officers in the Navy.
The Husband is the “Captain” of the ship. The Wife is his 1st Mate.

She should advise him. She should help him, but she does not have the authority to command him.
She should also submit to his authority without him having to insist on it.

I like to think of this working a bit like the relationship between the captains and 1st officers as shown in Star-Trek.

No-one would think Spock was not equal to Kirk, not that Riker was not equal to Picard. They simply hold a lower rank in the command structure.
They will stand up to their superior within reason they are not and cannot be simply a “Yes Man”.
Without the 1st officer doing their job well the captain is at a massive loss.

THis of course is my view. It is not official Church Teaching. Our Magisterium is not exactly vocal on any one proper interpretation of those teachings of St. Paul, and there are Theologians who would advocate viewing them as subject to cultural reinterpretation to the point of ignoring them. I personally can’t see that as an honest approach to the scriptures.

I would say to the O.P.
Take care not to “Nag”. that will harbour resentment.
Take care to respect your husband. especially in the areas where you know he has weaknesses. I know men and women who won’t leave their spouses weaknesses alone and make the wounds and failings worse instead of being supportive. - Worse some criticise their spouses constantly and do so publicly.

I believe this is gravely sinful whether you are a man or a woman.

I think the correct balance will be dependant on the dynamic of the specific relationship.
but here’s some tips.
rather than “Keep back from that car!” Or “Pull back! I keep telling you!”
try: “You’re getting very close again darling”

I would also point out it works both ways.
A man who orders his wife around and acts in a domineering way will destroy his marriage very fast… Probably even faster than a woman acting in a similar way.

Even in important decisions where my wife and I are not in agreement I am extremely slow to “Pull Rank” and tell her I expect her to comply. - Though there’s specific areas where I have thought about it in the way we raise our kids, and setting the household rules.
 
Is there a particular reason you don’t want him to be watching crime shows? I do think that is a bit much, but the tailgating thing is something that really bothers me too. It makes me feel like he doesn’t care about my safety, and when I ask him to stop he thinks it means I don’t trust him to drive, so we’re at a standstill on that one. So I usually drive.

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Yes, this was just an example but it really bothers me. I hate the violence. I think it lets violence into your house. Some shows are fine but there is one I abolutely hate-Criminal Minds. We often sit together in the evenings and I read on my kindle and he watches TV. It gets us together in one space. I usually leave if it’s too much. I also think it is a waste of his time when I know he will be mad at himself later for doing it. Also, finally, he has admitted he is a TV addict and when you watch hour after hour of crime shows it is getting sort of addictive. Also, I wish we were at the same space spiritually and I don’t think this kind of thing is ever going to get us there. 🤷
 
rather than “Keep back from that car!” Or “Pull back! I keep telling you!”
try: “You’re getting very close again darling”

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Thanks, this is helpful. I just need to watch how I say it.
 
This may sound rather funny, but I’m serious. For married women, how do you keep from telling your spouse what to do? I do this a lot. It seems like he doesn’t think about things and I have to tell him what to do. :oNot just household chores and such but how to act! For example, I might tell him to stop spending so much time watching crime shows on TV.

What are your thoughts? Is that just normal? Is it disrespectful? If I ask him he’ll just say he doesn’t know. Should we be trying to bite our tongue? I’ve noticed myself a lot doing this. Like when he is driving, I just “react” and tell him to stop tailgating. I am trying to stop but don’t know if I ever can. And in my mind sometimes I think he needs to hear it. But I would certainly be annoyed if he did it to me as much as I do it to him. But then I’m more thoughtful so it’s not necessary! ;)Wondering how other women deal with this.
LOL! Why do you tell him what to do? He’s a grown man you should not be telling him things to do or not do like he’s your child.
 
I like to think of this working a bit like the relationship between the captains and 1st officers as shown in Star-Trek.

No-one would think Spock was not equal to Kirk, not that Riker was not equal to Picard. They simply hold a lower rank in the command structure.
This example made me laugh because it was spot-on for anyone who watches Star Trek! What a perfect example! 👍

And then I thought, “I’m such a geek.” 😊 😃

Sorry for the interruption. Now back to your regularly scheduled thread…
 
This. I’ve seen it many times. Then the complaint becomes “he does nothing.”

I’m not married so you can take this with a grain of salt, but you aren’t his mother. You’re his wife. Men do things differently from women – not right, not wrong; not better, not worse. Just different. So you need to decide if what he’s doing is truly causing a risk of harm or if it’s just not what you want to do or the way you would do it or…

There was an episode of Home Improvement years ago that really illustrates this. Jill was wanting to go back to school so Tim was taking over more things at the house because she was away more. He wasn’t doing things the way she did them or wanted them done and was berating him for it – one of the things was he gave the kids lunch money instead of fixing their lunch. He got in her face and said, “The kids were fed. They didn’t go hungry. If you are going to want my help, you’re going to have to back off and let me do things my way.” I’m paraphrasing it, but that’s the gist of the conversation.

I’m not saying that that’s going on in your house, but you really have to look at what you think is truly important and is it okay that he does things his way for the most part or do you just want everything done your way.
Very good point! I’ve learned that men think differently from women, not worse or better, wrong or right, just different. Their minds are wired different from ours and that’s just something women have to understand, and men too. :)😉 Me and my friends were discussing this, men’s minds just think differently, period. You have to learn to live with it. Don’t constantly criticize him or treat him like your child, I certainly wouldn’t want everything I do to be criticized. Just recognize that we will always think differently.
 
Yes, this was just an example but it really bothers me. I hate the violence. I think it lets violence into your house. Some shows are fine but there is one I abolutely hate-Criminal Minds. We often sit together in the evenings and I read on my kindle and he watches TV. It gets us together in one space. I usually leave if it’s too much. I also think it is a waste of his time when I know he will be mad at himself later for doing it. Also, finally, he has admitted he is a TV addict and when you watch hour after hour of crime shows it is getting sort of addictive. Also, I wish we were at the same space spiritually and I don’t think this kind of thing is ever going to get us there. 🤷
I think this last sentence is what is really going on in the relationship. I think you want so much for the two of you to be in the space place spiritually that you are thinking you have to “nag” your husband to get there. So you’re addressing every area, every action, of your husband’s life by thinking you need to tell him to be different so he feels motivated to change.

I think the only way you are both going to be in the same place spiritually is to pray, and then do what you need to do to draw closer to God yourself. If the crime shows get to be too much, I’d continue to leave the room. I’d ask my husband to plan an activity away from the tv, but I wouldn’t continue to nag him about his viewing habits. You want him to want to be spiritually connected to you, but you can’t “nag” him there, there are no roots or sticking foundation if you do. It won’t be because he did it for himself, it will be because it will make you happy and that can disappear just as quickly as it happened.
 
wow!

maybe issue written warnings with demerits.

maybe he might join a union and picket.
 
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