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I went to my grandson’s Christmas play last night. I am Catholic, and my daughter passed away six years ago, and her children stayed with their daddy. He has remarried and he and his new wife decided that the Catholic church was not for them so therefore, they left and joined a Christian church. It’s probably Baptist based. That’s fine, although I’m disappointed that my grandchildren are not of my own church, but I’m so grateful they are being raised in the faith and being taught Jesus is the center of their lives.

When I arrived at their church some ladies invited me to sit at a table in their vestibule as we waited for the play to start. We had about an hour wait. They didn’t include me much in the conversation, but I understood that since they didn’t know me. I quietly sat as they conversed and one asked the other how was a wedding she had recently gone to and was it a Catholic wedding? I guess this other girl must have had Catholic relatives. The girl answered, “Lord no. Thank God. They were saved.” That was insult number one.

Insult number two came when the woman made another comment saying “Don’t mention that word around here, you know it’s not appreciated.” A real bona fide Catholic bashing and they, not knowing that I was Catholic, sitting there with tears welling in my eyes from the deep pain they caused me. This brought such a deep insight about how minorities feel when they are persecuted and ostracized just because of their color, their race, or any other person who might not quite fit into the mold. I believe this was a true sign from God for me as a lesson to be learned. How the other person feels.

I can only say I was so wounded and so distraught from feeling their hatred, and believe me, it was hatred. Out and out disgust on their part from the faces they made and the smirks. I told them then that I was Catholic and they didn’t even flinch except that they only ignored me more. It was awful.

I only want to say to all my other Christian brothers and sisters, who might in the past have said things about Catholics, “please don’t.” We are Christian people, we love the Lord, we obey His commands, we follow two thousand years of apostolic teachings, nor have I ever heard a fellow Catholic bash a Protestant, or speak against them. This was a lesson to me from the Lord and I pray to let it be a lesson to you as well. The wound is deep within me, that’s how badly it hurt my heart. I never knew we were that hated. It’s a terrible thing to feel.

May God bless you all and I pray for all Christian people in spite of the church they attend or their personal walk with Jesus, as well as all my non-Christian brothers and sisters, please refrain from saying things that one day you may have to account for when you are standing before the Lord’s throne.

Catholics are not evil, we are not the whore of babylon, we have a loving holy Pope who sits in the chair of St. Peter from a long line of popes before him, and we are taught through the apostolic church which is two thousand years old. I hope you all understand this. Thank you all for reading my statement of faith and of pain inflicted on me.

😦 :blessyou: :highprayer:
 
I am so sorry that happened to you. 😦 I think cradle Catholics fail to appreciate how little some Protestants think of us. As a former Evangelical, I can promise you that the comments those ladies made are said over & over again…

Now that I’m Catholic, I can also say that it’s due to ignorance. They don’t really know what we believe… if they understood they would never say such terrible things about His Church. I feel sorry for those ladies… just think, they never receive Jesus in the Eucharist… they have no idea what a wonderful blessing we have in the Saints, our brothers and sisters in Christ who are praying for us! They’ve probably never been to a beautiful midnight mass or cried tears of joy at a beautiful rendition of Ava Maria. They have almost ZERO appreication for our Blessed Mother… oh the list goes on and on… how VERY sad for them.
 
I really do not understand why so many Christian-protestant denominations hate Catholics so much. I can only infer that it is probably based on ignorance. The way Catholics are sometimes portrayed in the media is not exactly flattering (pedophiles, extremists, etc) and there is a disgusting rumor going around some Christian-protestant denominations that Catholicism is much like witchcraft with its “rituals”. I suppose that these people have never sat down and had a real, intelligent conversation with a real, live, breathing Catholic about his or her faith 😉 Misconceptions are looming everywhere about us… although I am not sure what kind of gratification they get from judging… doesn’t the bible say “You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye” ? Heh heh.

I have faced a similar dilemma, except on a broader spectrum. Most of my friends are agnostic or aethiest and frequently bash all types of Christians. Before I found my way back to Catholicism, I was perfectly fine with the things they said and even went as far as to agree with them. Now, I find myself asking them just to give God a CHANCE… and boy, am I getting laughed at 😦
 
Bless your hearts my friends. I feel a little better now by your words of comfort. Still my heart is aching from last night. It’s a terrible feeling to know how hated you are based on your religious convictions. Yellowbird, you are right when you say these things are said again and again, as my Protestant close friend has told me and she tries to comfort me in her way. She too was brought up believing terrible things about Catholics but has long since tossed those ridiculous notions out. As former Evangelicals you speak well, and I also can appreciate all the Evangelists and find no fault with any since they are spreading the gospel in the way that Christ told us.

I believe in my one Holy Catholic Apostolic church, and to quote Father Groeschel from EWTN, he stated that to become a Catholic, one must first be given the grace to do so, and also that he made it understood that all Christians are precious to God, not just us Catholics. I think these ladies are in darkness to speak so of us and to judge in such a miserable way. I’d love to drop a note to the Pastor to let him know what is being said, but I’m not real familiar with him and only met him once or twice, but he’s lovely. A very Christan preacher and I highly respect him as a man of God.

Shame on those ladies and may God enlighten them and open their eyes to their sin.

God bless you all.
 
I’m very sorry you went through this. I actually came to the catholic church out of a very anti-catholic protestant division. I was so into it I was attending a university for the denomination to be a minister. They taught me to think, and once that happened, I became Catholic 😉

Those last few years were very hard for me though. I had to endure constant catholic bashing in classes, including a sermon about God killing catholics who get in the way of God-fearing protestants. I was not allowed to speak in some classes, I lost most of my friends, and all I had to go on, really, was my choir class. The director was kind and understanding, and many choral standards are OF the catholic church, so I used those songs as worship.

Sadly, this hatred is everywhere. It sucks, and it hurts, but we have to remember to keep a soft heart, love them, and pray for them. Jesus said this kind of hatred would be there. All we can do is pray, and continually reach out to them.
 
I had a friend tell me one time that you can’t cure ignorant, and it is obvious that those women are. Please don’t think we are all like that. Disagreements happen, but out-and-out hatred is uncalled for. I am very sorry. If you can, just pray that their hearts are melted to the point of drastic change. Again, I am terribly sorry.😦
 
Things like this make me feel shame for all humanity, including myself. I am so, so sorry this happened to you. And I’m not even a theist.

Whence compassion, and humane love? We are all more than capable of it, it hurts no one and helps all, including the one that practices it. Why, oh why? Even an a non believer, sometimes even I am moved to think ‘How long, how long must we suffer?’
 
I really do not understand why so many Christian-protestant denominations hate Catholics so much. I can only infer that it is probably based on ignorance. The way Catholics are sometimes portrayed in the media is not exactly flattering (pedophiles, extremists, etc) and there is a disgusting rumor going around some Christian-protestant denominations that Catholicism is much like witchcraft with its “rituals”. I suppose that these people have never sat down and had a real, intelligent conversation with a real, live, breathing Catholic about his or her faith 😉 Misconceptions are looming everywhere about us… although I am not sure what kind of gratification they get from judging… doesn’t the bible say “You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye” ? Heh heh.

I have faced a similar dilemma, except on a broader spectrum. Most of my friends are agnostic or aethiest and frequently bash all types of Christians. Before I found my way back to Catholicism, I was perfectly fine with the things they said and even went as far as to agree with them. Now, I find myself asking them just to give God a CHANCE… and boy, am I getting laughed at 😦
the sad truth is that many non-Catholics do not want to find out what truths the Catholic church claim to believe in. A Pentecostal friend of mine once said to me that the reason ‘they’ don’t want to find out or accept anything Catholics say is because that would automatically mean thay ‘they’ were wrong, and they’d rather not feed that thought…Sad. If we all tried to understand each other, we would see how similar we are and how much can be bridged if we understood each other. Contempt, pride and hatred are not Christ-like, for Catholic or non-Catholic alike. Some people just don’t get it…
 
(((((all of you)))))) oh you are all reducing me to tears with your hearts and words of compassion. May God bring his greatest blessings on each you and may He always remember how you soothed a sorrowing Catholic lady who was wounded by the knife of persecution and unkind words. May He hold all of you in the Palm of His Mighty Hand.

:grouphug:
 
(((((all of you)))))) oh you are all reducing me to tears with your hearts and words of compassion. May God bring his greatest blessings on each you and may He always remember how you soothed a sorrowing Catholic lady who was wounded by the knife of persecution and unkind words. May He hold all of you in the Palm of His Mighty Hand.

:grouphug:
Awwww! You are so sweet! (((Hugs))) to you!
 
That’s a horrible thing to experience. :eek: What works for me (with any bad behavior directed at myself) is to realize that something in the persons’ past may be contributing to the way they act now. Although that doesn’t necessarily excuse the hurt they cause, and you may not find out the reasons for it, it helps to be empathetic–this takes the sting out of the hurt as I end up feeling completely sorry for the person!

As an Orthodox Christian, let me assure you that I know exactly how you are feeling–I have endured more persecution concerning my faith in the last few weeks on this forum than in my entire life! :crutches:
 
That is awful. I am very sorry you had to endure that shameful display of hatred and ignorance, Hislittlelady. I was raised in a somewhat conservative Protestant church, but I never heard any bad word about Catholics at church, whether from the laypeople or the pastors. My mother, who raised me as a Protestant Christian, thought they (Catholics) were “strange”, and didn’t understand them (oh, if she and I could talk now!), but she never said that they were bad or not Christian or anything like that. I realize that this was most likely a result of growing up in a small town with a large percentage of immigrants from Latin America, who are nearly 100% Catholic. So I went to school with their kids, we worked in the same soup kitchens around Christmas, etc. If there was any derision, it was not coming from any Presbyterian I knew.

I know this might not be the case everywhere, though it should be. I consider myself truly blessed to have friends of the Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant churches, and to learn from all of them in turn. I do not always agree with them, but I am glad that we are friendly with each other. That goes a long way, I think. 👍
 
I’m very sorry you went through this. I actually came to the catholic church out of a very anti-catholic protestant division. I was so into it I was attending a university for the denomination to be a minister. They taught me to think, and once that happened, I became Catholic 😉

Those last few years were very hard for me though. I had to endure constant catholic bashing in classes, including a sermon about God killing catholics who get in the way of God-fearing protestants. I was not allowed to speak in some classes, I lost most of my friends, and all I had to go on, really, was my choir class. The director was kind and understanding, and many choral standards are OF the catholic church, so I used those songs as worship.

Sadly, this hatred is everywhere. It sucks, and it hurts, but we have to remember to keep a soft heart, love them, and pray for them. Jesus said this kind of hatred would be there. All we can do is pray, and continually reach out to them.
I guess this hatred is common to some fundamentalist and evangelical churches. I’ve been a fundamentalist before and I hated the catholic church. I guess it is because I hear this kind of hatred from the pastor and from the anti-catholic literature they distribute around. I thank God for giving me the grace to come back the Church He founded.
 
Yes, Jesus said as Christians we would be persecuted; it’s unfortunate that it is by other Christians! Although there is no comparison, the experience gives us the smallest insight into what He suffered during his time on earth, and his Apostles after His death and resurrection. I have Orthodox Christians, Anglican priests and Catholic Christians in my family and we all have a tremendous amount of respect for each other, thank goodness.
 
It’s true that anti-Catholic bigotry is mostly grounded in ignorance and I’m sure that the need to distinguish a particular faith from the Catholic faith also plays a part. You cannot always cure ignorance because it often has its roots in the teachings of childhood, things that people are very reluctant to let go of.

It is indefensible that anyone calling themselves Christian should have exposed you, even accidentally, to this sort of attack. But they were fallible humans and they did so. In your hurt and pain, which I know was very severe, remember that Our Lord gave up much more for us, so that all our sins could be forgiven. In this sense, take it as a blessing that you were given the chance to have the merest taste of what He suffered for all of us, He even suffered for those awful people who said such awful things.

If you can transform your pain into a blessing from Our Lord, you can change the experience from a negative to a positive. Offer it up. I trust that in so doing He will give you peace. He won’t make it OK, because nothing can do that, but He can give you peace. He can bless you with peace.
 
I went to my grandson’s Christmas play last night. I am Catholic, and my daughter passed away six years ago, and her children stayed with their daddy. He has remarried and he and his new wife decided that the Catholic church was not for them so therefore, they left and joined a Christian church. It’s probably Baptist based. That’s fine, although I’m disappointed that my grandchildren are not of my own church, but I’m so grateful they are being raised in the faith and being taught Jesus is the center of their lives.

When I arrived at their church some ladies invited me to sit at a table in their vestibule as we waited for the play to start. We had about an hour wait. They didn’t include me much in the conversation, but I understood that since they didn’t know me. I quietly sat as they conversed and one asked the other how was a wedding she had recently gone to and was it a Catholic wedding? I guess this other girl must have had Catholic relatives. The girl answered, “Lord no. Thank God. They were saved.” That was insult number one.

Insult number two came when the woman made another comment saying “Don’t mention that word around here, you know it’s not appreciated.” A real bona fide Catholic bashing and they, not knowing that I was Catholic, sitting there with tears welling in my eyes from the deep pain they caused me. This brought such a deep insight about how minorities feel when they are persecuted and ostracized just because of their color, their race, or any other person who might not quite fit into the mold. I believe this was a true sign from God for me as a lesson to be learned. How the other person feels.

I can only say I was so wounded and so distraught from feeling their hatred, and believe me, it was hatred. Out and out disgust on their part from the faces they made and the smirks. I told them then that I was Catholic and they didn’t even flinch except that they only ignored me more. It was awful.

I only want to say to all my other Christian brothers and sisters, who might in the past have said things about Catholics, “please don’t.” We are Christian people, we love the Lord, we obey His commands, we follow two thousand years of apostolic teachings, nor have I ever heard a fellow Catholic bash a Protestant, or speak against them. This was a lesson to me from the Lord and I pray to let it be a lesson to you as well. The wound is deep within me, that’s how badly it hurt my heart. I never knew we were that hated. It’s a terrible thing to feel.

May God bless you all and I pray for all Christian people in spite of the church they attend or their personal walk with Jesus, as well as all my non-Christian brothers and sisters, please refrain from saying things that one day you may have to account for when you are standing before the Lord’s throne.

Catholics are not evil, we are not the whore of babylon, we have a loving holy Pope who sits in the chair of St. Peter from a long line of popes before him, and we are taught through the apostolic church which is two thousand years old. I hope you all understand this. Thank you all for reading my statement of faith and of pain inflicted on me.

😦 :blessyou: :highprayer:
For crying out loud… if you don’t want people bashing your faith in front of you, say, “don’t bash my faith in front of me.”

Makes more sense than sitting there with tears welling in your eyes. People only have the power to offend people to the extent that others - adults - allow them such power. Each adult chooses how they are going to respond to perceived slights.
 
he made it understood that all Christians are precious to God, not just us Catholics.

I think these ladies are in darkness to speak so of us and to judge in such a miserable way. I’d love to drop a note to the Pastor to let him know what is being said

Shame on those ladies and may God enlighten them and open their eyes to their sin.
I can tell you have a very humble and beautiful spirit. I am not catholic and am ashamed of the behavior that you witnessed. I have always felt that if your going to say something it should be for edification, not to put somebody down. I do not believe in the catholic teaching, but I would never intentionally hurt someone by my words. I have said some things on this forum that I truly believe and are of my opinion. This women should of asked for forgiveness once they realized what they had done. At that moment I would of sought out the pastor and confronted them. He needs to know.
 
(((((all of you)))))) oh you are all reducing me to tears with your hearts and words of compassion. May God bring his greatest blessings on each you and may He always remember how you soothed a sorrowing Catholic lady who was wounded by the knife of persecution and unkind words. May He hold all of you in the Palm of His Mighty Hand.

:grouphug:
I know exactly what you went through. i experienced many times.

i had to endure sit quietly as they sit together and bashed the CC. making funny of the pope. Catholics are heretics and they are not saved. i heard pastors preaching and making funny of the rosary.

i have family members who does the same thing.

before i didnt know much about my faith. but now i will sit wiht them and with patience point out why we believe what we believe.

peace onto you.
 
For crying out loud… if you don’t want people bashing your faith in front of you, say, “don’t bash my faith in front of me.”

Makes more sense than sitting there with tears welling in your eyes. People only have the power to offend people to the extent that others - adults - allow them such power. Each adult chooses how they are going to respond to perceived slights.
Do you choose to be without compassion on purpose?
 
Matthew 5:11-12 “Blessed are you when people revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.”

On these forums I have encountered Protestants who were respectful and intelligent, presenting their faith and debating with us. I have also met the other kind who bash Catholics all the time.

I asked a question on three different threads: “Can anyone tell me of a single Catholic who has written books attacking Protestants”. Noone was able to answer. However, there are plenty (heaps) of books attacking the Catholic Church. In fact, there are people who make a career out of attacking the Catholic Church.

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