Terry McAuliffe 2020?

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With a recent poll finding that 45 percent of Democrats long for a new national leader, could Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe be the man to watch?
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I think he will be running. He is only 60. Much younger than Biden, Hillary, Bernie, or Warren. He has the Clinton connections without the Clinton name that is becoming burdensome to so many voters. He will do much better with white/male/rural/blue collar voters that Hillary alienated.

He will be a strong runner.
 
robertmidwest said:
washingtonexaminer.com/terry-mcauliffe-2020-name-one-democrat-who-can-stop-him/article/2621171

I think he will be running. He is only 60. Much younger than Biden, Hillary, Bernie, or Warren. He has the Clinton connections without the Clinton name that is becoming burdensome to so many voters. He will do much better with white/male/rural/blue collar voters that Hillary alienated.

He will be a strong runner.
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Might be. But he isn’t going to escape the Clinton connection. And he might do well with white urban males, but I can’t see him doing well among rural voters of either gender.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Might be. But he isn’t going to escape the Clinton connection. And he might do well with white urban males, but I can’t see him doing well among rural voters of either gender.
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The younger voters in 2020 aren’t going to make the connection with Clinton I don’t think. The will bring it up as much as possible but if you were born when G.W. Bush was president are you really going make the connection and care?

He is from a southern rural state. I have a feeling that by itself will help repair some of the damage HRC did their base. I am genuinely interested, why do think he will not appeal to white rural voters?
 
robertmidwest said:
washingtonexaminer.com/terry-mcauliffe-2020-name-one-democrat-who-can-stop-him/article/2621171

I think he will be running. He is only 60. Much younger than Biden, Hillary, Bernie, or Warren. He has the Clinton connections without the Clinton name that is becoming burdensome to so many voters. He will do much better with white/male/rural/blue collar voters that Hillary alienated.

He will be a strong runner.
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It’s still a long ways off in some ways but candidacies will begin to be announced in 2019 just a couple of yrs from now. I know many think the Democrats have a weak bench but I would strongly disagree. Many may not be household names yet but that won’t take long to change. Terry is a governor. My concern would be if his Clinton connections might be too close for some even without the name. I am looking at others too. Kamala Harris who I’ve heard described as a “female Obama” could be a candidate, a new face on the scene, with the charisma that excites voters much in the way Obama won not just 1 but 2 terms. I’ve known of her since she was a state attn general and now as a US Senator I have seen her look strong in these recent Senate hearings. Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown on a ticket could also help with those same blue collar voters in states such as Ohio, PA,MI. And there is Cory Booker, Amy Klobuchar, Kirsten Gillibrand, and a number of others. Far too many potential candidates to name here. I suspect the Democrats in 2020 will have a large field much as the Republicans did the last time. I have no doubt though someone will emerge as the frontrunner and the nominee to take on Trump if he hasn’t resigned or been impeached and removed from office by that time and seeks reelection or if Pence is the President by then and runs as Gerry Ford did after his assent to the office following the Nixon resignation.
 
Kamala Harris. Yep she will be a strong runner too. She has the biggest name recognition around the country.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Might be. But he isn’t going to escape the Clinton connection. And he might do well with white urban males, but I can’t see him doing well among rural voters of either gender.
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I hope he doesn’t run. what a disaster that would be. I think he would be worse than Hillary. I am sure he has his eyes set on being president.
 
robertmidwest said:
He is from a southern rural state. I have a feeling that by itself will help repair some of the damage HRC did their base. I am genuinely interested, why do think he will not appeal to white rural voters?
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He is a Washington insider from New York. He won the governorship of Virginia with less than 50% of the vote (there was a libertarian candidate who got 6% or so). He didn’t win the rural parts of the state–he got his majorities in northern Virginia (inside the beltway) and to some extent Richmond.

He’s a hack who toes the party line, not out of conviction, but because that is the way to get power. He’s not worse than HRC, but he’s not all that different.

Bad idea.

–Jen
 
Heaven help us! A leftist political hack if ever there was one. Hillary with slightly less testosterone.
 
revert_jen said:
He is a Washington insider from New York. He won the governorship of Virginia with less than 50% of the vote (there was a libertarian candidate who got 6% or so). He didn’t win the rural parts of the state–he got his majorities in northern Virginia (inside the beltway) and to some extent Richmond.

He’s a hack who toes the party line, not out of conviction, but because that is the way to get power. He’s not worse than HRC, but he’s not all that different.

Bad idea.

–Jen
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I was getting WVa nd Va confused. I forgot Va boarders DC. He didn’t win rural vote?

Being like Clinton is why I think he will get it. He doesn’t have to carry the Clinton name that people are getting tired of. Age is on his side too. He is 10-18 years younger than the others.
 
revert_jen said:
He is a Washington insider from New York. He won the governorship of Virginia with less than 50% of the vote (there was a libertarian candidate who got 6% or so). He didn’t win the rural parts of the state–he got his majorities in northern Virginia (inside the beltway) and to some extent Richmond.

He’s a hack who toes the party line, not out of conviction, but because that is the way to get power. He’s not worse than HRC, but he’s not all that different.

Bad idea.

–Jen
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Well someone from New York is in the WH today who received less than 50% of the vote, less than Hillary Clinton even.
 
Sy_Noe said:
Well someone from New York is in the WH today who received less than 50% of the vote, less than Hillary Clinton even.
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Point well taken. But I’m not a big fan of Terry. I agree with you about the other picks. Kamala Harris is awesome.
 
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I was getting WVa nd Va confused. I forgot Va boarders DC. He didn’t win rural vote?

Being like Clinton is why I think he will get it. He doesn’t have to carry the Clinton name that people are getting tired of. Age is on his side too. He is 10-18 years younger than the others.
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You mean 10-18 yrs younger than Biden, Sanders, Warren and Clinton. I actually don’t see any of those 4 running partly because of their ages.
 
robertmidwest said:
Kamala Harris. Yep she will be a strong runner too. She has the biggest name recognition around the country.
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Really?

I don’t see her liberal California politics appealing to large swathes of people in states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Ohio that she would be able to win those states against President Trump. I suspect in 2020 the Democrats will see a similar but yet different type of rerun of what happened with Bernie Sanders and Hilary Clinton, where you will get the establishment type vs the non-establishment type which will tear the Democrats apart more than their distrust or dislike for President Trump will unite them.
 
7_Sorrows said:
I hope he doesn’t run. what a disaster that would be. I think he would be worse than Hillary. I am sure he has his eyes set on being president.
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Of course he does.

That is one of the dangers of electoral oligarchy: those who rule are those who **want **to. Few if any exceptions.

The founding generation didn’t take that danger seriously enough.

ICXC NIKA
 
he will not appeal to white rural voters?
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i believe one of the reasons hillary lost is her stand on the 2A.

I think he loses the rural voter for the same reason
 
_Abyssinia said:
Really?

I don’t see her liberal California politics appealing to large swathes of people in states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Ohio that she would be able to win those states against President Trump. I suspect in 2020 the Democrats will see a similar but yet different type of rerun of what happened with Bernie Sanders and Hilary Clinton, where you will get the establishment type vs the non-establishment type which will tear the Democrats apart more than their distrust or dislike for President Trump will unite them.
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I don’t see it that way. You are coming at this like a Republican. Just because she is from California doesn’t negate her message.
 
Sojourner003 said:
Point well taken. But I’m not a big fan of Terry. I agree with you about the other picks. Kamala Harris is awesome.
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I’d vote for him in a heartbeat over Trump or Pence, but I agree. I was just making the point to the poster who complained about him being a New Yorker who won his last election with < 50%.
 
_Abyssinia said:
Really?

I don’t see her liberal California politics appealing to large swathes of people in states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Ohio that she would be able to win those states against President Trump. I suspect in 2020 the Democrats will see a similar but yet different type of rerun of what happened with Bernie Sanders and Hilary Clinton, where you will get the establishment type vs the non-establishment type which will tear the Democrats apart more than their distrust or dislike for President Trump will unite them.
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I think the Bernie people got their 15 minutes fame and will begin to fade. They and the green party people made a little noise but they aren’t winning any elections.

The economy will have something to do with it too. If we are roaring along Penn, Ohio, and Wisc voters will say “Let’s do it again!”. If the economy is slumping dems will have a chance to regain those states. Didn’t Pennsylvania just open a new coal mine? The first in years?
 
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