Terry McAuliffe 2020?

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robertmidwest said:
I think the Bernie people got their 15 minutes fame and will begin to fade. They and the green party people made a little noise but they aren’t winning any elections.

The economy will have something to do with it too. If we are roaring along Penn, Ohio, and Wisc voters will say “Let’s do it again!”. If the economy is slumping dems will have a chance to regain those states. Didn’t Pennsylvania just open a new coal mine? The first in years?
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Yes, “it’s the economy, stupid” is still applicable. But also healthcare, I think, and of course the Middle East and North Korea are the “trump cards,” particularly with the continuous terrorist attacks abroad and at home.
 
_Abyssinia said:
Really?

I don’t see her liberal California politics appealing to large swathes of people in states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Ohio that she would be able to win those states against President Trump. I suspect in 2020 the Democrats will see a similar but yet different type of rerun of what happened with Bernie Sanders and Hilary Clinton, where you will get the establishment type vs the non-establishment type which will tear the Democrats apart more than their distrust or dislike for President Trump will unite them.
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Republican overconfidence about Trump winning PA, MI, and WI again after he only won each by roughly 1% against who turned out to be an unpopular candidate. Neither candidate in 2016 was popular.

Now take a look at who won PA, WI, OH, MI and FL in 2008 and 2012. He was a Chicago liberal to many on your side of the aisle.

Anyway here is an interesting article pairing Kamala Harris with Sherrod Brown. Yes I know in this scenario, they have her as the next VP but the 2 together in either fashion could be a strong ticket.

observer.com/2017/03/sherrod-brown-kamala-harris-donald-trump-reelection/
 
robertmidwest said:
I was getting WVa nd Va confused. I forgot Va boarders DC. He didn’t win rural vote?

Being like Clinton is why I think he will get it. He doesn’t have to carry the Clinton name that people are getting tired of. Age is on his side too. He is 10-18 years younger than the others.
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It says here McAuliffe won because he received similar margins of black voters as did Obama.

nbcnews.com/news/other/black-voters-were-big-reason-mcauliffe-won-virginia-f8C11545231
 
robertmidwest said:
I think the Bernie people got their 15 minutes fame and will begin to fade. They and the green party people made a little noise but they aren’t winning any elections.

The economy will have something to do with it too. If we are roaring along Penn, Ohio, and Wisc voters will say “Let’s do it again!”. If the economy is slumping dems will have a chance to regain those states. Didn’t Pennsylvania just open a new coal mine? The first in years?
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Have you seen what Bernie Sanders wife, Jane Sanders, has recently said about 2020:

washingtonexaminer.com/bernie-sanders-will-play-a-major-role-in-2020-jane-sanders-says/article/2625747

Yes Pennsylvania recently opened a new coal mine. I agree regarding the economy. The US economy is already seeing gains. If that continues into 2020 I think it will be difficult for Democrats but it’s so far down the road it’s hard to say at this point. Trump was inaugurated in January and in early June there is already talk of 2020?
 
_Abyssinia said:
Have you seen what Bernie Sanders wife, Jane Sanders, has recently said about 2020:

washingtonexaminer.com/bernie-sanders-will-play-a-major-role-in-2020-jane-sanders-says/article/2625747

Yes Pennsylvania recently opened a new coal mine. I agree regarding the economy. The US economy is already seeing gains. If that continues into 2020 I think it will be difficult for Democrats but it’s so far down the road it’s hard to say at this point. Trump was inaugurated in January and in early June there is already talk of 2020?
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I don’t doubt Bernie and for that matter Biden will have an interest in playing a role of some sorts. Biden has already set up a PAC which his wife Jill said is to play a role in the 2018 races. Doesn’t mean either will be a candidate in 2020.

But yes when approval of a guy after just 5 mos is just 37% and he received only 46% of the vote when he last ran, I’m not surprised there is talk of 2020 to replace him.

gallup.com/poll/212120/trump-approval-edges-down-new-weekly-low.aspx?g_source=ALL_GALLUP_HEADLINES&g_medium=topic&g_campaign=tiles
 
_Abyssinia said:
Have you seen what Bernie Sanders wife, Jane Sanders, has recently said about 2020:

washingtonexaminer.com/bernie-sanders-will-play-a-major-role-in-2020-jane-sanders-says/article/2625747

Yes Pennsylvania recently opened a new coal mine. I agree regarding the economy. The US economy is already seeing gains. If that continues into 2020 I think it will be difficult for Democrats but it’s so far down the road it’s hard to say at this point. Trump was inaugurated in January and in early June there is already talk of 2020?
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I haven’t looked at the article yet. I do agree with your post. I will go farther. If the economy is strong in 2018 the Senate will be a hard pill to swallow for the Dems. They have lots of seats to defend. If they do poorly in 2018 in the Senate it will fair poorly in the 2020 race. The article link in Sy Noes post mentions Sherrod Brown will be hurt if runs in 2018 and loses. I can’t imagine him not running. (I tried to post on it but was having trouble cutting and pasting for some reason.)
 
Sy_Noe said:
I don’t doubt Bernie and for that matter Biden will have an interest in playing a role of some sorts.
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Sanders, especially. His amazingly strong showing in the Democratic primary earned him a seat at the table for sure.

He has an op-ed piece in the New York Times today. It’s well worth a read. I think he’s one of the few people (aside from me, of course:D) to grasp what the party has to do in the future.

nytimes.com/2017/06/13/opinion/bernie-sanders-how-democrats-can-stop-losing-elections.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region&_r=0
 
Sy_Noe said:
I don’t doubt Bernie and for that matter Biden will have an interest in playing a role of some sorts. Biden has already set up a PAC which his wife Jill said is to play a role in the 2018 races. Doesn’t mean either will be a candidate in 2020.

But yes when approval of a guy after just 5 mos is just 37% and he received only 46% of the vote when he last ran, I’m not surprised there is talk of 2020 to replace him.

gallup.com/poll/212120/trump-approval-edges-down-new-weekly-low.aspx?g_source=ALL_GALLUP_HEADLINES&g_medium=topic&g_campaign=tiles
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I think their age will be a factor.
 
robertmidwest said:
I haven’t looked at the article yet. I do agree with your post. I will go farther. If the economy is strong in 2018 the Senate will be a hard pill to swallow for the Dems. They have lots of seats to defend. If they do poorly in 2018 in the Senate it will fair poorly in the 2020 race. The article link in Sy Noes post mentions Sherrod Brown will be hurt if runs in 2018 and loses. I can’t imagine him not running. (I tried to post on it but was having trouble cutting and pasting for some reason.)
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Here’s an article on why the Senate looks bad for both parties next yr.

fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-2018-senate-elections-are-looking-bad-for-both-parties/?src=obsidebar=sb_1
 
Sy_Noe said:
Republican overconfidence about Trump winning PA, MI, and WI again after he only won each by roughly 1% against who turned out to be an unpopular candidate. Neither candidate in 2016 was popular.

Now take a look at who won PA, WI, OH, MI and FL in 2008 and 2012. He was a Chicago liberal to many on your side of the aisle.

Anyway here is an interesting article pairing Kamala Harris with Sherrod Brown. Yes I know in this scenario, they have her as the next VP but the 2 together in either fashion could be a strong ticket.

observer.com/2017/03/sherrod-brown-kamala-harris-donald-trump-reelection/
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For some reason I can not cut and paste from this article. I do think they are the most likely. I agree with a lot of the article. The monkey wrench in the gears for them is her lack of experience and for him the 2018 senate election.

Dems have lots to lose in 2018. Lots of seats to defend. Claire McCaskill is already running ads in my state. She is starting a year early. She must be worried. If the economy grows over the next two years they will have trouble defending those senate seats.
 
GEddie said:
Of course he does.

That is one of the dangers of electoral oligarchy: those who rule are those who **want **to. Few if any exceptions.

The founding generation didn’t take that danger seriously enough.

ICXC NIKA
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Yes, have to agree…:o
 
Inisfallen said:
Sanders, especially. His amazingly strong showing in the Democratic primary earned him a seat at the table for sure.

He has an op-ed piece in the New York Times today. It’s well worth a read. I think he’s one of the few people (aside from me, of course:D) to grasp what the party has to do in the future.

nytimes.com/2017/06/13/opinion/bernie-sanders-how-democrats-can-stop-losing-elections.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region&_r=0
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Well with regard to Bernie you’re sorta preaching to the choir since I did vote for him. 🙂
 
_Abyssinia said:
Really?

I don’t see her liberal California politics appealing to large swathes of people in states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Ohio that she would be able to win those states against President Trump. I suspect in 2020 the Democrats will see a similar but yet different type of rerun of what happened with Bernie Sanders and Hilary Clinton, where you will get the establishment type vs the non-establishment type which will tear the Democrats apart more than their distrust or dislike for President Trump will unite them.
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Kamala Harris is worse! :eek:
 
7_Sorrows said:
Didn’t McAuliffe also pass a law allowing felons to vote?
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Not that I’m aware of. I did find this explaining that he signed an executive order restoring the voting rights of 206,000 ex-felons who had finished their sentences and their supervised release.

And that Virginia is one of only 10 states that do not automatically restore rights upon completion of a felony sentence.

richmond.com/news/virginia/government-politics/mcauliffe-restores-voting-rights-for-k-ex-felons-gop-calls/article_771db279-34d6-5a3d-9557-a417a8afb212.html
 
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