Testimony: Trump dossier not made-up; not politically motivated

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When was DT ever accused of sexually harassing young girls? In fact not sure that it has been proven he has sexually harassed any woman for that matter
Then you need to go listen to the words out of his own mouth in which he talks to Billy Bush about grabbing women in intimate areas and it being easy for him since he’s Mr. Bigshot. Or maybe you think he lies about himself as well. I would not put it past him. He’s that far afield.
 
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If I did nothing wrong, I want all the information to come out to show that I’m innocent.
This goes against one’s intuition, but if I did nothing wrong I still might not want much information to be made public. This isn’t because of guilt, but because of the narratives that can be woven. I’ve sometimes heard people say that in the event of a police investigation they would want to give as much information to the police as possible to help out. But I’ve been generally advised to involve a legal professional. Something that even makes someone look like they might have done something could lead to a legal headache and a lot of expenses.
IOW, we know they lied, which begs the question why? Plus why the efforts to try and stop Mueller’s investigation by Trump himself?
That I would not do as that could be obstruction of justice and damaging to one’s credibility.
 
When was DT ever accused of sexually harassing young girls? In fact not sure that it has been proven he has sexually harassed any woman for that matter
He said it himself. Read his words, which aren’t fit to type here, or any where, really. This is the president of the US. Or maybe your definition of “sexual harassment” is different. Maybe you think this is okay? If anyone tried that with me, I’d file an assault charge against them.

 
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Then you need to go listen to the words out of his own mouth in which he talks to Billy Someone about grabbing women in intimate areas and it being easy for him since he’s Mr. Bigshot. Or maybe you think he lies about himself as well. I would not put it past him. He’s that far afield.
No, you need to go read the transcripts,
but do it for comprehension.

Trump was mocking groupies, that they would allow a star to do that.
He wasn’t claiming it for himself.

I’m not saying he hasn’t done so, but that’s what the transcript confirms.
 
This goes against one’s intuition, but if I did nothing wrong I still might not want much information to be made public. This isn’t because of guilt, but because of the narratives that can be woven.
In regular criminal investigations, this would be true because of what else could turn up and be prosecuted under “probable cause”. However, in the case of this investigation under Mueller, only that directly dealing with either Russian collusion and/or obstruction of justice could be used. IOW, it’s quite limited in terms of what’s reported and what may be prosecuted. However, the House and Senate investigations are not as limited.
 
You didn’t read the transcript, go find it and read it again.

He admitting to kissing without consent,
then said you could do anything if you were a star, and added the infamous comment for emphasis.
 
Didn’t he also say he would go into the dressing rooms of the beauty pageants while the girls were changing and in various stages of undress?
 
I expect he did, but don’t see your point. There is not much body modesty in those environments from what I’ve seen. Don’t see it as any different than when reporters (male & female) head to the locker room after games.
 
Didn’t he also say he would go into the dressing rooms of the beauty pageants while the girls were changing and in various stages of undress?
Yes, he said that, and several girls have talked about it: Must be a shock for him to be stuck in something now he can’t buy or talk his way out of. A president is held accountable - must be a hard lesson for DT.

 
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I find it a little ironic that Bush lost his job and basically got blacklisted for listening to Trump say those things while the one who actually said those things gets elected President. What a world we live in.

Though with Trump’s penchant for hyperbole and exaggeration, I don’t necessarily take his words in the recording at face value, it is still troubling that he would say such things even if they were not true.
 
Most girls do not want men in their dressing rooms. Also, the dressing room of the beauty pageant is much different that the locker room after a game. #1) reporters are not allowed #2) they are changing between appearances, #3) body modesty between others of the same sex is different than body modesty between sexes, #4) most teenage girls I know are overly modest.
 
Most girls don’t try make a career as a model, which is what a National beauty pageant represents. You are comparing apples and oranges when you compare a pageant situation with the changing habits of typical teenage girl.
 
Pageants aren’t for wanna be models. Most are trying for scholarships.

And even if they are trying to be models that didn’t give Trump the right to walk in while they were getting ready.
 
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He said he could if he wanted to.He never said that he actually did,Huge difference.you also accused him of sexually harassing underage girls.Where did you come up with that?
 
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I find it amazing that someone could defend that on a Catholic board.
Then you are not following the conversation. I objected to the comparison of a pageant changing area with what a typical teen might expect in their private domicile. It has 50+ girls in a large room, it’s not a man-free zone.

My comments are valid perspective, but don’t excuse lecherous behavior. Plenty of leches go to bikini events and strip clubs, also situations where body modesty is not likely.
 
He said he could if he wanted to.He never said that he actually did,Huge difference.you also accused him of sexually harassing underage girls.Where did you come up with that?
The source is already posted.
 
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