Testimony: Trump dossier not made-up; not politically motivated

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I guess you missed my point.Everyone,Madonna included made a big stinking deal out of something DT said years ago,clutching their pearls so to speak ,all the while she herself has actially acted onstage etc in a very sexually off putting manner.her outrage was disingenuous as was Ashly Judd Miley Cyrus and all these hate filled women.
It’s just more leftist nonsense because HC lost .Seriously pathetic!
Just the mere inference of the pussy hats these foul women wore in protest of DT shows how crude they really are while feigning offense at thevPzoTUS locker room conversation.Pfttttttt!
 
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I guess you missed my point.
I got your point. I just don’t think much of the idea that the thoughts and acts of entertainers have much, if any, significance. I don’t think that any act of the POTUS is justified or mitigated by the acts, speeches, writings, tweets, or the alleged hypocrisy of entertainers.
 
Most girls don’t try make a career as a model, which is what a National beauty pageant represents. You are comparing apples and oranges when you compare a pageant situation with the changing habits of typical teenage girl.
Are you saying beauty pageant contestants give up the right to change clothing without a leering male present? Or is this just some strange backwards way of calling women who compete in such contests whores?
 
I think I was pretty clear that some career choices come with baggage. People opting to become models, strippers, compete in beauty pageants or just bikini contests need to adapt their expectations on body modesty. Don’t they all jump on stage showing their body in bikinis, burkas not allowed.
 
I don’t see much difference between the people in the audience and the people trying to get in the dressing room.
 
I don’t see much difference between the people in the audience and the people trying to get in the dressing room.
But we’re not talking about the audience, we’re talking about the women. Do you believe that women partaking in a beauty contest have no expectation to privacy in a dressing room? Are they somehow fundamentally different from a woman trying on clothes in a store, or using a restroom?

I really want to explore why it is you seem to hold these women in such contempt that you almost seem to be defending the idea of a man having some sort of right to barge into their dressing room and leer at them.
 
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I don’t see much difference between the people in the audience and the people trying to get in the dressing room.
I can’t believe you actually believe that. The audience isn’t leering at them in a state of undress or trying to grope them against their wishes.
 
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I don’t see much difference between the people in the audience and the people trying to get in the dressing room.
But we’re not talking about the audience, we’re talking about the women. Do you believe that women partaking in a beauty contest have no expectation to privacy in a dressing room? Are they somehow fundamentally different from a woman trying on clothes in a store, or using a restroom?

I really want to explore why it is you seem to hold these women in such contempt that you almost seem to be defending the idea of a man having some sort of right to barge into their dressing room and leer at them.
Why do you say she is showing contempt for these women? I don’t see that at all.
I have never been backstage at a beauty pageant, but I have seen what it is like for models backstage of the runway or even some photo shoots and I know they have little
privacy. I know some TV coverage of the beauty pageants they will have a host and TV camera backstage in the dressing room and you can see the contestants working on their hair or makeup. I don’t have a clue how much privacy they have.
 
Doesn’t every woman have the right not to be groped against her will? Or does she give up that right because there are many lecherous men in the world, to use your line of reasoning?
 
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I’m not the one who leered and groped. Trump bragged he did.

Doesn’t every woman have the right not to be groped against her will? Or does she give up that right because there are many lecherous men in the world, to use your line of reasoning?
 
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You seem to have veered off the topic of the thread. If you want to start a thread on your
fixation about Trump, go ahead.

This is about the dossier.

Which could turn out to be a Democrat hoax.
 
Which could turn out to be a Democrat hoax.
I can’t believe even you think that! 🤣

Trump has made comments that his entire presidency is a hoax. He never expected to win, his wife and separated for some time because she didn’t want to be first lady, etc.

Trump. himself, may not have colluded with Russia, but his son and son-in-law certainly did. The emails have been made public.

 
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I can’t believe you actually believe that. The audience isn’t leering at them in a state of undress or trying to grope them against their wishes.
Stop making stuff up, just cause it sounds good in your head

Trump was never accused of trying to grope the contestants during his backroom ‘inspections’

And YES, the audience is leering at them in a state of undress ( I can post bikini pics, if I must)
 
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Which could turn out to be a Democrat hoax.
I can’t believe even you think that! 🤣

Trump has made comments that his entire presidency is a hoax. He never expected to win, his wife and separated for some time because she didn’t want to be first lady, etc.

Trump. himself, may not have colluded with Russia, but his son and son-in-law certainly did. The emails have been made public.

Full Text, Analysis: Donald Trump Jr. Emails On Meeting With Lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya : NPR
I can’t believe you think THAT!!! 🤣
 
This out yesterday about the Dossier…
The DOJ and FBI Worked With Fusion GPS on “Operation Trump”….
Posted on January 11, 2018 by sundance
Ever since the transcript of Fusion-GPS Co-Founder Glenn Simpson’s testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee was released by Senator Dianne Feinstein, several inquisitive media outlets have begun questioning the relationship between the FBI investigators, Glenn Simpson and dossier author Christopher Steele.
What we have discovered not only highlights the answer to that question, but it also answers a host of other questions, including: Did the FBI pay Christopher Steele? Yes, but now how media thinks. Was the FBI connected to the creation of the Steele Dossier? Yes, but not in the way the media is currently outlining.

WE BEGIN: The recent stories about the 2016 DOJ and FBI counterintelligence investigation of the Trump campaign center around how the Christopher Steele ‘Russian Dossier’ was used by the DOJ/FBI in obtaining FISA approvals for surveillance of Trump campaign officials.
Within the “Russian Dossier” back-story everyone is now familiar with the relationship between Fusion-GPS, the founder of the company, Glenn Simpson, and the author of the dossier, Christopher Steele. Additionally, the relationship between the Clinton campaign and Fusion GPS is now well known.
In/around April of 2016 the Clinton campaign entered into a financial relationship with Fusion-GPS. Team Clinton paid Fusion-GPS for information on candidate Donald Trump. That agreement led to Fusion-GPS hiring sub-contractor Christopher Steele, which eventually led to the creation of the ‘Steele Dossier’.
Yesterday, it was reported that the ‘Steele Dossier’ was used as the underlying foundation for the DOJ and FBI to seek FISA Court Approvals to monitor the communications of the Trump campaign.
In essence, as of yesterday, the FBI used contracted Clinton opposition research -via Fusion GPS- on candidate Donald Trump to generate surveillance authority over her political opponent.
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We know NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers became aware of an issue with unauthorized FISA-702(17) “About Queries” early in 2016. Due to a FISA court ruling that was declassified in May of 2017 we were able to piece that specific timeline together.
After discovering the FISA-702(17) “About Query” concerns, NSA Director Rogers initiated a full FISA-702 compliance review.
During the exact same time-frame that Christopher Steele was assembling his dossier information (May-October 2016), the NSA compliance officer was conducting the internal FISA-702 review as initiated by NSA Director Mike Rogers.

Subsequent to that FISC notification Mike Rogers stopped all FISA-702(17) “About Queries” permanently. They are no longer permitted.
…lolength…
Pg 83. “FBI gave raw Section 702–acquired information to a private entity that was not a federal agency and whose personnel were not sufficiently supervised …
 
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