Texas Gov. Rick Perry Entering 2012 Race

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Prodigal_Son1 said:
I only wonder about his foreign policy views now.
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Well know soon enough.
If the houses go back to democrat control, he’ll have as much trouble as Obama is having with republicans in control. It’s sad that we have a two party system where one side blames the other and nothing gets done; the whole time making decisions that affect the country based on partisan politics and to make the other side look bad.
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We have always had a 2 party system like that. It has worked for over 200 years.
Edited to add: I’m not excited about see Hagee preaching at national events, or the whitehouse, either.
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I seriously doubt you will. Hagee is not his pastor.
 
gilliam said:
Well know soon enough.
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Yep.
gilliam said:
We have always had a 2 party system like that. It has worked for over 200 years.
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You may be over extending how long it’s ‘worked’, judging by the last 50 years…
gilliam said:
I seriously doubt you will. Hagee is not his pastor.
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I know it’s not his pastor, but they’ve been at some of the same ‘events’. From what I understand, Perry is a Methodist??
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
Yep.

You may be over extending how long it’s ‘worked’, judging by the last 50 years…

I know it’s not his pastor, but they’ve been at some of the same ‘events’. From what I understand, Perry is a Methodist??
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Man made systems don’t work perfectly. “to make a more perfect union” idea comes to mind. It all depends on the people involved. Clinton bent toward the middle with a republican congress. I just don’t see Obama bending on his ideology. He is a very stubborn man and a system of gov’t can’t work at that pace.
 
FaithJoy said:
Man made systems don’t work perfectly. “to make a more perfect union” idea comes to mind. It all depends on the people involved. Clinton bent toward the middle with a republican congress. I just don’t see Obama bending on his ideology. He is a very stubborn man and a system of gov’t can’t work at that pace.
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I didn’t say he wasn’t stubborn. But those he negotiated with were just as stubborn, and some of those they represented were even more stubborn.
 
Texas has been somewhat protected from the economic downturn thanks in large part to the oil industry. A lot of those jobs created were in that field, especially since the price of oil spiked years ago.
 
poker10 said:
Texas has been somewhat protected from the economic downturn thanks in large part to the oil industry. A lot of those jobs created were in that field, especially since the price of oil spiked years ago.
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I live in an area that is doing very well and this area of Texas don’t have the oil industry as the large part of the economy. We are protected mainly by lower taxes, no state income taxes and lowest possible regulation on our businesses, something Obama needs to learn.
 
CMatt25 said:
How’s Texas doing in education?
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That’s a fair question. A fair answer requires a look behind the most facile statistics. Here’s a post from a blog by Iowahawk where he compares education in Texas to vaunted Wisconsin:

iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/03/longhorns-17-badgers-1.html

He breaks some of the figures down and comes up with this:

2009 4th Grade Math

White students: Texas 254, Wisconsin 250 (national average 248)
Black students: Texas 231, Wisconsin 217 (national 222)
Hispanic students: Texas 233, Wisconsin 228 (national 227)

2009 8th Grade Math

White students: Texas 301, Wisconsin 294 (national 294)
Black students: Texas 272, Wisconsin 254 (national 260)
Hispanic students: Texas 277, Wisconsin 268 (national 260)

2009 4th Grade Reading

White students: Texas 232, Wisconsin 227 (national 229)
Black students: Texas 213, Wisconsin 192 (national 204)
Hispanic students: Texas 210, Wisconsin 202 (national 204)

2009 8th Grade Reading

White students: Texas 273, Wisconsin 271 (national 271)
Black students: Texas 249, Wisconsin 238 (national 245)
Hispanic students: Texas 251, Wisconsin 250 (national 248)

2009 4th Grade Science

White students: Texas 168, Wisconsin 164 (national 162)
Black students: Texas 139, Wisconsin 121 (national 127)
Hispanic students: Wisconsin 138, Texas 136 (national 130)

2009 8th Grade Science

White students: Texas 167, Wisconsin 165 (national 161)
Black students: Texas 133, Wisconsin 120 (national 125)
Hispanic students: Texas 141, Wisconsin 134 (national 131)

To recap: white students in Texas perform better than white students in Wisconsin, black students in Texas perform better than black students in Wisconsin, Hispanic students in Texas perform better than Hispanic students in Wisconsin. In 18 separate ethnicity-controlled comparisons, the only one where Wisconsin students performed better than their peers in Texas was 4th grade science for Hispanic students (statistically insignificant), and this was reversed by 8th grade. Further, Texas students exceeded the national average for their ethnic cohort in all 18 comparisons; Wisconsinites were below the national average in 8, above average in 8.

As an educator in Texas, I can attest that we have a lot of room for improvement but simply quoting bumper-sticker statistics doesn’t do justice to the matter.
 
What this also shows is nationally we have a very big problem with our students under performing.
 
Perry, Santorum, Gingrich, or (holds nose a bit) Romney,

I’d would vote for the 1st 3 with a huge smile on my face.
 
gilliam said:
Alex Jones talking about his own fixation with the Bilderberg conference and reading into it a lot of conspiracies that don’t really exist so he can sell DVDs? Really? Come on, please don’t go there.
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If you look at the article, this was taken from the Dallas Morning News. Also read this on Politico.
 
Teelynn said:
If you look at the article, this was taken from the Dallas Morning News. Also read this on Politico.
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The article just said he was requested to and spoke at the event. As a successful governor, I could see why he was invited. They like successful people to speak at the event. That is not unusual. They don’t want losers speaking there. So, what is the issue? (I know what the issue is for Jones, but what is your beef about this to cause you not to vote for Perry?) Also not sure what this has to do with NAFTA
 
Cactus said:
To recap: white students in Texas perform better than white students in Wisconsin, black students in Texas perform better than black students in Wisconsin, Hispanic students in Texas perform better than Hispanic students in Wisconsin. In 18 separate ethnicity-controlled comparisons, the only one where Wisconsin students performed better than their peers in Texas was 4th grade science for Hispanic students (statistically insignificant), and this was reversed by 8th grade. Further, Texas students exceeded the national average for their ethnic cohort in all 18 comparisons; Wisconsinites were below the national average in 8, above average in 8.

As an educator in Texas, I can attest that we have a lot of room for improvement but simply quoting bumper-sticker statistics doesn’t do justice to the matter.
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And a good statistic to look at would be the improvement rates, not just the raw scores.

If the Texas vs. Wisconsin were corrected to account for immigration, the stats in Texas would be even better. Kids who live in homes where the primary language is not English are always going to have a disadvantage in the standardized testing.
 
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