Texas Gov. Rick Perry Entering 2012 Race

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Twelve hours removed from a controversy about his suggestion that Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke was engaging in “treasonous” behavior Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s presidential campaign didn’t try to walk back the remark. In fact, they doubled down on it.
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Nothing to be ashamed of here. Everyone knows Ron Paul’s position against the Federal Reserve which is the entity that’s really being attacked here. Michelle Bachmann and Alan Grayson have also grilled Bernanke pretty well from their respective House positions.

In the Senate certain notables such as Jim Bunning, Barbara Boxer, and Bernie Sanders have also expressed their outrage against Bernanke. Strange bedfellows, I know, but where was the public outrage against those Senators?​
 
CMatt25 said:
I don’t know what y’all would do to him in Iowa, but we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas,"
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What’s “ugly” in Texas, Gov. Perry? A rope around a neck?
Perry said. “Printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost treacherous—**or treasonous in my opinion,” added the candidate. **
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Look up the definition of “treason,” Governor.
 
ProVobis said:
Well, I lived in Chicago during the 60’s. (As you may have too.) Couple that with what’s happening in London and a certain fear can be justified, no?
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No, not at all. Think of post-election rioting. It did not happen in Gary or in Cleveland or in Chicago or in NYC when the mayor’s ethnicity changed. It happened in Newark in the sixties.

So there is no connection between the president losing and any rioting. And we were talking about campaign tactics, not after-election disgruntlement. To answer your statement, no, fear of post-election rioting is not justified at all. It is a red herring.

Some folks just like to bring the subject up to score points.
 
CMatt25 said:
Sure it plays to his base for a caucus/primary. But Perry shows a real lack of understanding of the Fed to suggest Bernanke would be committing treason in Perry’s opinion and that Bernanke would be playing politics. Treason? Seriously?

And does Perry not know it was a Republican, his predecessor in TX in fact, George W Bush, who later appointed Bernanke?

If this kind of talk and such shooting from his mouth is Perry’s tendency, playing to a limited base I’m not sure will be enough in a general. Welcome to the big leagues Mr Perry. Just as Dorothy was not in Kansas anymore, neither are you going to be in TX should your base nominate you.
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The problem with that rationale is that the base are the ones who are going to be most likely to see a contradiction with Perry’s Bernanke remarks. Once you get past them, the rest are much easier to convince on economic issues.
Rich_Olszewski said:
That wasn’t “dirt,” just an effort to make Palin seem dumb. “Dirt” would have been stories about extramarital affairs, etc.
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But polls later showed that most people believed that Sara Palin acutally said it. The point is just that dirt can be spread without any evidence or truth and many will believe it.
 
Beau_Ouiville said:
No, not at all. Think of post-election rioting.
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It wasn’t just about elections. In 1968 alone, riots after MLK was shot and they spread to the campus where I was attending classes. Then those riots during and after the DNC just a few blocks from me, which had nothing to do with ethnicity. You think that was fun?
 
gilliam said:
As I said, this is a political plus for Perry. The more the Liberal commentators yell about it, the better it will be for him. They are playing into his hands. He knows the base.
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Yep. Keep whining, liberals. 👍
 
therightscoop.com/ed-schultz-deceptively-edits-video-to-accuse-perry-of-racism/

Let the yellow journalism begin!
.Breitbart.TV caught this on Ed Schultz’s show on MSNBC, where Schultz accused Rick Perry of referring to Obama as a “big black cloud over America”. The only problem was that Perry was referring to the 16 trillion in debt, which was absolutely the context of his comments, which Ed Schultz purposely edited out of the sound byte so that he could accuse Perry of racism:
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:tiphat: Stjudeprayforus
 
Pathetic eh?

The left is terrified of Perry.

It will get worse… the lying from the left has just begun. They have nothing to run on.
 
Stjudeprayforus said:
Pathetic eh?

The left is terrified of Perry.

It will get worse… the lying from the left has just begun. They have nothing to run on.
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I don’t know much about Perry. If the best Schultz can come up with is turning a comment about debt being a “black cloud hanging over us” into a racist comment against Obama, then I’m guessing Perry must be a pretty solid threat.
 
Stjudeprayforus said:
Pathetic eh?

The left is terrified of Perry.

It will get worse… the lying from the left has just begun. They have nothing to run on.
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And then it will get better, when Perry is elected POTUS. This country is blessed by the Lord. Imagine how much more we would be blessed without abortion.
 
ProVobis said:
It wasn’t just about elections.
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It wasn’t about elections at all. And what we’re discussing here is elections. So your mention of 1968 is grossly irrelevant.

Like I said, this is just a red herring.
ProVobis said:
You think that was fun?
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I think that is irrelevant to anything today and I think that those who bring up such irrelevancies in regard to election results need to quit.
 
Beau_Ouiville said:
You fear what exactly? We’re discussing an election campaign here. How do things get ugly after a campaign is done?

Please cite chapter and verse. I would advise you to research Hugh Addonizio and how things got ugly when he lost; the sole example of post-election ugliness I could find.
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Read Paul Johnson’s Modern Times in which he describes the “media putsch” that occurred after Nixon won in '72. I think he (Johnson) quotes the editor in chief of the New York Times of saying after the '72 election, “there’s got to be a blood letting.” Of course Nixon made their job easier with his actions.

Obviously another example is the hatred of Bush 2 after his election. They never forgave him for “stealing the election.” I think the so-called “Bush derangement syndrome” that so many on the left suffer from is because of anger over the 2000 election.

Ishii
 
gilliam said:
Perry is no fan of Bush (and visa versa)

We will see who the Republican electorate picks.
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Gilliam, I have no doubt among the Republican caucus and primary electorate Perry is a contender.

Howard Dean was talking about this on MSNBC tonight. Gilliam, do you think there’s any chance Rove and the Bush team will destroy Perry nationally. Or that Bachmann and Perry split the base vote which will aid Romney?
 
rlg94086 said:
I don’t know much about Perry. If the best Schultz can come up with is turning a comment about debt being a “black cloud hanging over us” into a racist comment against Obama, then I’m guessing Perry must be a pretty solid threat.
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Nor really a threat because he is so far to the right. He is so patriotic that he thinks TX should secede from the union? Now that is very American. He is another D student from TX and I think the country knows what happens after that and he does have the "gay’ thing to contend with. Hey, I don’t care if he is but others might.
 
CMatt25 said:
Gilliam, I have no doubt among the Republican caucus and primary electorate Perry is a contender.

Howard Dean was talking about this on MSNBC tonight. Gilliam, do you think there’s any chance Rove and the Bush team will destroy Perry nationally. Or that Bachmann and Perry split the base vote which will aid Romney?
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I think there is wailing and gnashing of the teeth in the Republican party.
 
GOP Primary: Perry 29%, Romney 18%, Bachmann 13%

rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/gop_primary_perry_29_romney_18_bachmann_13

We will see if the other polls reflect this huge upswing for Perry…
Here is the recent polling history:

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

The “Generic Republican” vs Obama poll has Obama loosing by 6 points:

rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/generic_presidential_ballot/election_2012_generic_presidential_ballot

Now is the time to get involved in the process so we can get a strong pro-life candidate to face Obama.
Perry is certainly not my first choice, but if it comes down to him vs Obama in November, I am all for Perry.
 
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