Texas Gov. Rick Perry Entering 2012 Race

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rlg94086 said:
So, you think people like John Hancock didn’t any sort of lobbying? Business leaders are always going to have influence on a legislative body. They are going to be very vocal and financially supportive (or not) depending on whether the policies you favor will benefit them. If you can show an example of quid quo pro, then that is a different situation.
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You mean pro bono, don’t you? 😉
 
Out of the mouths of fellow Republicans. 👍
Bruce Bartlett, who served as an adviser to Ronald Reagan and as a Treasury official under George H.W. Bush, called Republican presidential hopeful Rick Perry “an idiot” Friday, referencing negative comments the Texas governor made about Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke this week.
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While campaigning in Iowa Monday, Perry said it would be “almost treasonous” for Bernanke to print more money between now and the 2012 election. “I don’t know what y’all would do to him in Iowa, but we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas,” he said.
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Bartlett reacted to the comments Friday during an appearance on CNN’s “American Morning.” “Rick Perry is an idiot, and I don’t think anybody would disagree with that,” Bartlett said. “The thing is, the politics of the Fed itself are really a more serious problem.”…
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Bush’s former deputy press secretary, Tony Fratto, also criticized Perry’s comments on Twitter, posting: "Gov. Perry’s comments about Chmn. Bernanke are inappropriate and unpresidential.
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Karl Rove had perhaps the harshest criticism for Perry while appearing on Fox News Tuesday. Talking Points Memo reports that Rove said on the show, “You don’t accuse the chairman of the Federal Reserve of being a traitor to his country. Of being guilty of treason. And, suggesting that we treat him pretty ugly in Texas. You know, that is not, again a presidential statement.”…
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huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/19/bruce-bartlett-rick-perry-bernanke_n_931334.html
 
antonivs said:
Out of the mouths of fellow Republicans. 👍

Bruce Bartlett, who served as an adviser to Ronald Reagan and as a Treasury official under George H.W. Bush, called Republican presidential hopeful Rick Perry “an idiot” Friday, referencing negative comments the Texas governor made about Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke this week.
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I haven’t made up my mind yet on this race but I wouldn’t put a lot of stock into the fact that this particular Republican is bashing Perry.

The reason why you are seeing so many ex-Bush team people bashing Perry is that there is a lot of bad water between Perry and the Bush team. Especially after Perry started to say Bush’s economic policies were not really conservative. The Bush team wants Paul Ryan or Chris Christie or a number of other folks they feel would be in their camp going forward. So take it with a LARGE grain of salt that is is in any way significant that they are Republicans criticizing Perry. No matter what Perry says going forward until there is only one nominee, we should expect the Bush team to belittle Perry…

some history
The alleged bad blood between Governor Perry and former President Bush dates back to the 1998 when Bush was running for governor and Perry was running for lieutenant-governor.

“Bush had token opposition and wanted to get a really big win, and also wanted to win a majority of Hispanics. Rove’s team didn’t want to go negative at the end, because that would suppress Hispanic turnout in places where Bush was going to get some crossover votes,” explained Mackowiak, a Republican strategist who previously worked for Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson. “There was a difference in the strategy, of what the Lieutenant Governor campaign wanted and what the Governor’s team wanted.” Perry was in a much closer race than Bush and ended up going negative on their Democratic opponent, despite the wishes of Karl Rove and the Bush camp. And so a legendary feud was born.
fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/08/19/tim-mak-rick-perry-taps-former-bush-donors-for-money-despite-ongoing-feud/

Everything is bigger in Texas, including political feuds.

If you are keeping notes on what Bush aid said what, see:
tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/ws-revenge-ex-bushies-gang-up-on-rick-perry.php
 
ProVobis said:
I’m confused. Do you think this bought government is something new? I don’t.
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I don’t know why you are confused. You mentioned that “a ‘bought Congress’ is not in the Constitution.”

I’m just pointing out that the lobbying and financing by business interests has existed since the founding of our country…even before the Constitution. For example, John Hancock, whose signature is of course very well known, was a very wealthy merchant (thus the prominent place on the Declaration) and had plenty of influence on our early government. In other words, your point was moot.

I guess I’m confused as to why you brought up the Constitution, if you knew that this was the case. :confused:
 
Seven ways Rick Perry wants to change the Constitution

Perry laid out these proposed innovations to the founding document in his book, Fed Up! Our Fight to Save America from Washington. He has occasionally mentioned them on the campaign trail. Several of his ideas fall within the realm of mainstream conservative thinking today, but, as you will see, there are also a few surprises.

Abolish lifetime tenure for federal judges by amending Article III, Section I of the Constitution.

Congress should have the power to override Supreme Court decisions with a two-thirds vote.

Scrap the federal income tax by repealing the Sixteenth Amendment.

End the direct election of senators by repealing the Seventeenth Amendment.

Require the federal government to balance its budget every year.

**The federal Constitution should define marriage as between one man and one woman in all 50 states. **

**Abortion should be made illegal throughout the country. **

news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/seven-ways-rick-perry-wants-change-constitution-131634517.html
 
gilliam said:
Seven ways Rick Perry wants to change the Constitution

Perry laid out these proposed innovations to the founding document in his book, Fed Up! Our Fight to Save America from Washington. He has occasionally mentioned them on the campaign trail. Several of his ideas fall within the realm of mainstream conservative thinking today, but, as you will see, there are also a few surprises.

Abolish lifetime tenure for federal judges by amending Article III, Section I of the Constitution.

Congress should have the power to override Supreme Court decisions with a two-thirds vote.

Scrap the federal income tax by repealing the Sixteenth Amendment.
He believes these things? Maybe I’ll have to look at him more closely.
End the direct election of senators by repealing the Seventeenth Amendment.

Require the federal government to balance its budget every year.

**The federal Constitution should define marriage as between one man and one woman in all 50 states. **

**Abortion should be made illegal throughout the country. **

news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/seven-ways-rick-perry-wants-change-constitution-131634517.html
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WEll, I like the list. Now he just has to convince 2/3 of the Senate and House and 3/4 of the States to go along with it.
 
rlg94086 said:
I guess I’m confused as to why you brought up the Constitution, if you knew that this was the case. :confused:
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Okay, my mistake. I was thinking of “government by the people, of the people, and for the people” but now realize that’s not part of the Constitution but the Gettysburg Address, which of course, is not binding. Buy away.
 
Alan55 said:
It turns out that under Rick Perry’s leadership, jobs declined in the private sector, but increased in the public (government) sector. Not a great jobs creation record, and likely to look even worse when Texas cuts state government spending (and thus government jobs) in the coming months.

tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/chart-of-the-day-government-jobs-led-to-perrys-economic-boom.php
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Texas is a big, big military state. We all know they’re not cutting jobs right now.
 
gilliam said:
The reason why you are seeing so many ex-Bush team people bashing Perry is that there is a lot of bad water between Perry and the Bush team. Especially after Perry started to say Bush’s economic policies were not really conservative. The Bush team wants Paul Ryan or Chris Christie or a number of other folks they feel would be in their camp going forward. So take it with a LARGE grain of salt that is is in any way significant that they are Republicans criticizing Perry. No matter what Perry says going forward until there is only one nominee, we should expect the Bush team to belittle Perry…
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Rove was on The Factor last night discussing this and disputed all those assertions. You can see the clip here

clicker.com/tv/the-oreilly-factor/rove–no-rivalry-between-bush-and-perry-2049048/
 
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