The 10 Commandments and islam

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In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace
(Immanuel means “God with us”)
where is the name Jesus (peace be upon him) mentioned here ? Ask any Jewish Rabbi if this verse refers to Jesus (pbuh) & if this verse means Jesus (p) is God.
 
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

post only one verse I repeat one verse from OT that says Jesus (peace be upon him) is God. Thanks.
Muslim Woman, you have given good work to Jay53. It would be hard to find anything about Jesus in the OT.
 
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Salaam/peace

where is the name Jesus (peace be upon him) mentioned here ? Ask any Jewish Rabbi if this verse refers to Jesus (pbuh) & if this verse means Jesus (p) is God.
Hi

Good question from Mulsim Woman, in my opinion.

Jesus could assert himself for his claims and reasons; he needed no Paul/s, in my opinion; **I love Jesus **for his wisdom. Jesus feared nobody except GodAllahYHWH whose humble servant Jesus was, in my opinion. I love blessed Mary also.

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… then why don’t you and your friends leave the Quran alone about such things. So you please leave Quran alone about any scientific thing in it.
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Muslimah727:
However, blood is stored within the woman to be used by the potential child. When there is a child this blood (in most cases) is not shed. I don’t see the humor in this. In fact, its quite sad.
Planten claimed that the Quran has scientific miracles, well, whatever that mean, to prove that it is an authentic word of God. I will gladly leave out the Quran but it is him who brought it up.

I cited one of the so-called Quran scientific miracles – that human begins with a blood clot. This is proven wrong today from medical science which deals with scientific knowledge of the beginning of a fetus (human).

A fetus does not begin with a blood clot but the combination of spermatozoa and ovum. These are NOT blood or clot. Blood clot is made up of dead blood cell drifting and flowing dangerously in blood vessel. Sometimes it blocks an artery that result in heart attack. If you say that the fertilized ovum is a blood clot then you are stretching thing too far and it is wrong anyway.

Muslimah in trying to desperately strengthen this argument inexplicably brought up women menstruation. Menstruation has nothing to do with the formation of the fetus. Any medical people can easily tell you that. In any case it is already known by ancient people that a woman who missed her period would concieve and if she menstruate she did not. So there is nothing new or miraculous about this.

If by your logic that the authenticity of the Quran is proved by the scientific truth of its content, then logically it is not authentic if its so-called scientific truth is proved in error. In this case it is in error.
 
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

I cited one of the so-called Quran scientific miracles – that human begins with a blood clot. .
a good link for those who want to know 🙂

Reflections on the Medical Miracles of the Holy Quran

Dr. Sharif Kaf Al Ghazal

islamicmedicine.org/medmiraclesofquran/medmiracleseng.htm

more info:

Investigations in to the 'alaqa or leech-like stage.



Dr. Moore was a former President of the Canadian Association of Anatomists, and of the American Association of Clinical Anatomists. He was honoured by the Canadian Association of Anatomists with the prestigious J.C.B. Grant Award and in 1994 he received the Honoured Member Award of the American Association of Clinical Anatomists “for outstanding contributions to the field of clinical anatomy.”

It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Qur’an about human development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, or Allah, because most of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God, or Allah

islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Science/scientists.html
 
Planten claimed that the Quran has scientific miracles, well, whatever that mean, to prove that it is an authentic word of God. I will gladly leave out the Quran but it is him who brought it up.

I cited one of the so-called Quran scientific miracles – that human begins with a blood clot. This is proven wrong today from medical science which deals with scientific knowledge of the beginning of a fetus (human).

A fetus does not begin with a blood clot but the combination of spermatozoa and ovum. These are NOT blood or clot. Blood clot is made up of dead blood cell drifting and flowing dangerously in blood vessel. Sometimes it blocks an artery that result in heart attack. If you say that the fertilized ovum is a blood clot then you are stretching thing too far and it is wrong anyway.

Muslimah in trying to desperately strengthen this argument inexplicably brought up women menstruation. Menstruation has nothing to do with the formation of the fetus. Any medical people can easily tell you that. In any case it is already known by ancient people that a woman who missed her period would concieve and if she menstruate she did not. So there is nothing new or miraculous about this.

If by your logic that the authenticity of the Quran is proved by the scientific truth of its content, then logically it is not authentic if its so-called scientific truth is proved in error. In this case it is in error.
**Reuben, you have no knowledge about the intricasy of the child birth. And you have nothing in your bible. So,Therefore it is useless to discuss with you. If you were bringing something from the bibleNT then we would be pleased to listen to you.

The topic is Ten Commnadments. You have discarded them too. You have no commandment except Love, love, love. That is nothing. The Jews had the laws. So have the Muslims. But you people have let yourself down in the eyes of the Lord by rejecting the divine law. Now you are people trying to invent your own laws and passing laws in the parlaiment.

You see, you can never be without a law. If you reject the divine law then you have take shelter behind the man made laws. Even Jesus was not without any law. He abided by the law of Moses a.s. and so did his mother and father (Joseph) and so did all the apostles. Who told you that you are free from the divine law? Was it not Paul? Who never met Jesus? Who never visited the honorable mother Mary at all. If he was truely convertd then he should have met the mother. But he did not.**
 
You guys need to do your OWN research about the prophet muhammad(saw) instead of listening to people who will tell you what you clearly want to hear. If you knew the history of the prophet Muhammad(saw) you would know that he practiced civil disobedience upon being attacked by the Quraish tribe. He was attacked for being MUSLIM. There are many hadiths about non-muslims being violent and vulgar to the minority muslims and the prophet muhammad(saw) had patience with these people. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH. that’s the problem. you guys let your priest and popes dictate your religion to you so you don’t know how to study for yourselves. That sounds more like a cult to me.
I probably know more about your prophet than you do.

Your mohammed behaved very poorly, and as muslims do to this very day - after behaving poorly then claim they are the victims. That is what mohammed did.

You are telling us that we let the priests and Pope dictate our religion to us?!?!?!?! That is the most incredulous thing I have ever heard. Not only can I read the Bible and Catechism - I can discuss them and question them - and no one goes after me with death threats. You don’t even know what you are talking about. 🤷

mohammed went from a relatively benign position to outright violence, theft, killing, torture, etc. I have often shown that even in his ‘what we will call peaceful period at mecca - he was still a pill’ to people and the elders went to mohammed’s uncle to ask him to stop mohammed from behaving so poorly. These following hadiths show that mohammed’s assertions about his being treated poorly was in fact the opposite and mohammed was the one who behaved poorly.

**Ishaq:119 “'Abu Tabib, your nephew Muhammad has cursed our gods [at this point he had cursed all of them, including Allah], insulted our religion [more correctly, insulted them by trying to steal their religion], mocked our way of life and accused our forefathers of error. Either you stop him or let us get to him. For you, like us, are in opposition to him. He gave them a conciliatory reply. They returned a second time and said, ‘We have asked you to put a stop to your nephew’s activities but you have not done so. By Allah, we cannot endure having our fathers reviled and our customs mocked.’ Muhammad thought that his uncle had the idea of abandoning and betraying him, and that he was going to lose his support. The Apostle broke into tears.”

Tabari VI:93 “The Quraysh went to Abu Talib and said, ‘Your nephew [Muhammad] has reviled our gods, denounced our religion, derided our traditional values, and told us that our forefathers were misguided [and burning in hell]. Either curb his attacks on us or give us a free hand to deal with him, for you are as opposed to him as we are.’ They said, ‘We asked you to forbid your nephew from attacking us, but you did nothing. By Allah, we can no longer endure this vilification of our forefathers, this derision of our traditional values, and this abuse of our gods.’ This breach and enmity with his tribe weighed heavily on Talib. ‘Abu Talib, you are our elder and our chief, so give us justice against your nephew and order him to desist from reviling our gods, and we will leave him to his god.’”

Tabari VI:95 “Abu Talib sent for Muhammad. ‘Nephew, here are the shaykhs and nobles of your tribe. They have asked for justice against you. You should desist from reviling their gods and they will leave you to your god.’”

Tabari VI:96 “Abu Talib said to Muhammad, ‘Nephew, how is it that your tribe is complaining of you and claiming that you are reviling their gods and saying this, that, and the other?’ The Messenger said, 'I want them to utter one saying. If they say it, the Arabs will submit to them and the non-Arabs will pay the jizyah [submission tax] to them.”**
 
**Reuben, you have no knowledge about the intricasy of the child birth. And you have nothing in your bible. So,Therefore it is useless to discuss with you. If you were bringing something from the bibleNT then we would be pleased to listen to you.

The topic is Ten Commnadments. You have discarded them too. You have no commandment except Love, love, love. That is nothing. The Jews had the laws. So have the Muslims. But you people have let yourself down in the eyes of the Lord by rejecting the divine law. Now you are people trying to invent your own laws and passing laws in the parlaiment.

You see, you can never be without a law. If you reject the divine law then you have take shelter behind the man made laws. Even Jesus was not without any law. He abided by the law of Moses a.s. and so did his mother and father (Joseph) and so did all the apostles. Who told you that you are free from the divine law? Was it not Paul? Who never met Jesus? Who never visited the honorable mother Mary at all. If he was truely convertd then he should have met the mother. But he did not.**
Yes, we are discussing the 10 commandments and muslims don’t obey them. Since mohammed broke most of them he redefined sin to halal (ok to do), haram (do not do), and shirk. If muslims obeyed them they wouldn’t practice deception (taqiyya/kithman), and be torturing, killing, raping, stealing, enslaving, etc non-muslims.

As for the ‘love, love, love’ that you find most disgusting - if muslims did that the things they do to non-muslims wouldn’t be done. They wouldn’t have to be told not to kill, deceive, etc others. They would look at people who did those things as criminals.

Instead, in islam’s sharia laws there is nothing about those things if done against a non-muslim - and in many cases if they are done against women.

And in islam, if they followed the 10 commandments they wouldn’t be dividing up the world into dar al harb (realm of war) and dar al islam. right off with this mentality they justify death and other atrocious behavior on this division. They put themselves on a course that we are seeing in countries that muslims migrate to that they eventually end up in violence against their non-muslim neighbors.
 
where is the name Jesus (peace be upon him) mentioned here ? Ask any Jewish Rabbi if this verse refers to Jesus (pbuh) & if this verse means Jesus (p) is God.
Why would we ask a Jewish Rabbi? We have the Old Testament as handed to us from Jesus Christ Himself and His Apostles. Jesus Christ was there before Moses, before Abraham - The Word.
 
By the way - RuebenJ has indeed told you about childbirth much better than your mohammed/allah/koran.

The ironic thing is that this has been a known thing for quite some time and you are now saying that muslims still don’t know about it because they look to the koran as their science book?!

I bet muslims don’t even know that the man’s sperm is what determines the sex of a child - not the woman!
 
Why would we ask a Jewish Rabbi? We have the Old Testament as handed to us from Jesus Christ Himself and His Apostles. Jesus Christ was there before Moses, before Abraham - The Word.
Because she didn’t think you would find what she asked for originally. She cannot rebuttle it so she is making things up as she goes.

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Good work!:clapping:

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Based on this, the Quran indicates that the honey bees that work in the making of the honey are females.
We should not forget that it is impossible for this fact to have been known about the honey bees in the time of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Yet, Allah has pointed at this fact and shown us yet another miracle of the Quran.
why didn’t the writer say that the word “bee” in Arabic is FEMALE in nature and hence the words used must be female ? oh Lord how they feed people with deceit and nonsense.
 
why didn’t the writer say that the word “bee” in Arabic is FEMALE in nature and hence the words used must be female ? oh Lord how they feed people with deceit and nonsense.
inJesus - your not going to tell me that women can’t be pregnant for over 4 years are you? (though this ridiculous belief recently saved a muslimah from being stoned to death after the birth of her baby)
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inJesus - your not going to tell me that women can’t be pregnant for over 4 years are you? (though this ridiculous belief recently saved a muslimah from being stoned to death after the birth of her baby)
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since Muhammad’s father died before Muhammad, and since Muhammad was born after 4 years from Abdullah’s death (if you link the info found in the Islamic literature), some said that Muhammad’s mother Amina stayed pregnant for 4 years…you know, to say that she didn’t fornicate with anyone, though in some Islamic literature there are hints to Muhammad being rejected for having “no roots”…of course what am saying now is alien to many people, but these historical things about Muhammad are found in books usually not translated and not discussed by Muslims, but they are put on tv with references and citations by people who want to discuss what others don’t want to.
 
**Reuben, you have no knowledge about the intricasy of the child birth. And you have nothing in your bible. So,Therefore it is useless to discuss with you. If you were bringing something from the bibleNT then we would be pleased to listen to you.

The topic is Ten Commnadments. You have discarded them too. You have no commandment except Love, love, love. That is nothing. The Jews had the laws. So have the Muslims. But you people have let yourself down in the eyes of the Lord by rejecting the divine law. Now you are people trying to invent your own laws and passing laws in the parlaiment.

You see, you can never be without a law. If you reject the divine law then you have take shelter behind the man made laws. Even Jesus was not without any law. He abided by the law of Moses a.s. and so did his mother and father (Joseph) and so did all the apostles. Who told you that you are free from the divine law? Was it not Paul? Who never met Jesus? Who never visited the honorable mother Mary at all. If he was truely convertd then he should have met the mother. But he did not.**
I feel quite good about this for once though I don’t want to gloat on it. It is not my problem if I point to you the error of the so-called scientific miracles of the Quran which you touted as a foundation to prove its authenticity. It is natural that you do not want to talk about this anymore and I let it dies here. If ever you bring this subject up again, please remember this conversation piece.

I have enough of medical science knowledge to know that you are wrong on this. It is not a secret; there are probably some medical scientists and doctors here as well who would not be so ignorant on this subject. Maybe Mohammad could fool his ignorant bunch of marauding nomadic followers but he can’t with modern day scientists.

And there is a specific word here to describe you resorting to discredit your opponent because you cannot answer his argument.
 
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace
… Muhammad was born after 4 years from Abdullah’s death …you know, to say that she didn’t fornicate with anyone.
It’s ok if u hate Islam & Muslims. But please don’t write lies like this . It’s not giving your religion any credit . By spreading lies like this intentionally , you believe you are showing that you are a good follower of Jesus ( may peace & blessings of God be upon him ) ?
 
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It’s ok if u hate Islam & Muslims. But please don’t write lies like this . It’s not giving your religion any credit . By spreading lies like this intentionally , you believe you are showing that you are a good follower of Jesus ( may peace & blessings of God be upon him ) ?**

Instead of worrying if mohammed was a bastard, I would be more alarmed over his murderous and thug-like behavior as an adult!
 
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