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CMatt25
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Well yes Ishii you see “Democrat” on signs if the candidate is a Democrat. And a Democrat is a member of the Democratic Party. He or she might even be a Christian.
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bbarrick8383
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I think if you take all of the bottom tier candidates out and split the votes up between Cain, Newt and Romney it would look like this:
Cain
Romney
Gingrich
Much the way it is now, only Cain and Gingrich would split the bottom tier voters. I don’t think it would be enough to put Gingrich above Romney, but who knows. I like Cain or Gingrich, but I prefer Cain.
And I believe any of them could beat Obama if the election were held now.
spectator.org/blog/2011/11/03/dont-underestimate-cain
Cain’s the King of the Hill right now, the rest of the kids are trying to knock him off and that is all this is. If they do, so be it, it doesn’t mean Cain is done for. If they don’t, watch Cain with the nomination.
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bbarrick8383
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Actually, during our last state elections…none of the Democrats were putting their party affiliation on their signs. As a matter of fact, their signs weren’t even blue I don’t think.
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lisahiku
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I don’t know for sure on that yet. But I think he has common sense, and that is a rare quality these days !
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CMatt25
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Bbarrick, do you see any scenario where Cain, Newt, the rest of the ABR (Any body but Romney) tier splitting just enough votes in Iowa to give Romney a plurality for the win. And he goes onto win NH and the nomination for all practical purposes done?
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7_Sorrows
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i thought a democrat was a member of the democrat party just like a republican is a member of the republican party.
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Semper_Zelare
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If I may make a helpful observation. Rush Limbaugh has probably popularized the term “Democrat Party”. He’s made it slightly derogatory. I’m not saying that’s where ishii got it from, but the term “democrat party” is certainly influenced by LRushBo.
… vote Gingrich 2012
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CMatt25
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So it’s really just a lack of not knowing it’s the Democratic Party, the Democratic National Committee? I often have heard conservatives say the Democrat Party and wondered if it was just some sort of put down because they didn’t like saying Democratic? Oh well now you know I guess.
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CMatt25
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Thanks Semper. That is helpful because I was wondering if it was meant to be derogatory by some. Not necessarily by Ishii or 7Sorrows of course.
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bbarrick8383
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If nobody drops out before then, yea anything would be possible at that point.
The people of Iowa are definitely looking for someone other than Romney. Bachmann use to poll at 22 percent there. Now Cain’s at 23, Romney 22 with the rest at 12 and below.
If Santorum drops out, I think Cain and Gingrich would split his 5 percent. If Bachmann drops out, they will split her 8 percent. Perry has the money to stay in, so I don’t see him dropping. Paul will probably still be in. Huntsman is 1 percent in Iowa…I don’t see any reason for him to stay in but I don’t think him dropping out would make a difference.
That’s just Iowa though.
Cain is polling really well in some other states and another poll has him beating Romney head to head 47 to 39. That’s a pretty big difference that tells me a lot of people who are gunning for other candidates will vote for Cain if their candidate drops out.
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bbarrick8383
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Cain, Gingrich Set to Spar
This will be an interesting debate.
nationalreview.com/corner/281122/cain-gingrich-set-spar-robert-costa
This will be an interesting debate.
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bbarrick8383
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I smell a Cain/Newt or maybe even a Newt/Cain ticket…that I kind of like the sound of.
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Semper_Zelare
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In terms of Huntsman dropping out… I did not realize until today, but he commands a 6% following in New Hampshire. That is of course because he’s basically set up residence in the state. He’s not a social conservative, so he’s basically doing what Santorum is doing, except to the opening contest that is much more moderate than Iowa.
But yeah, when Bachmann has gotten 2% in 2 polls recently I think she needs to drop out. And I really think Santorum and Huntsman should drop out. Unlike Bachmann who actually raised 6+ million dollars, they might be forced to drop out bc of lack of money.
Huntsman will probably endorse Romney
Santorum will probbaly endorse Gingrich.
And, indeed. That Cain- Gingrich debate will be televised by Cspan, and some journalists are saying it could be the beginning of the end for Cain. (not counting the current sexual scandal shenanigans)
bbarrick:
But yeah, when Bachmann has gotten 2% in 2 polls recently I think she needs to drop out. And I really think Santorum and Huntsman should drop out. Unlike Bachmann who actually raised 6+ million dollars, they might be forced to drop out bc of lack of money.
Huntsman will probably endorse Romney
Santorum will probbaly endorse Gingrich.
And, indeed. That Cain- Gingrich debate will be televised by Cspan, and some journalists are saying it could be the beginning of the end for Cain. (not counting the current sexual scandal shenanigans)
bbarrick:
Gingrich has referred to “his friend” Herman Cain a few too many times, for me not to think you may have something there.
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bbarrick8383
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I don’t see Newt attacking him. They both speak well, Cain’s spent hours on the radio which would be great practice for this sort of debate.
However, if Newt goes for the throat…which I don’t see happening, then he could bring Cain down.
Other than that, the more Cain speaks, the more I like him. When he’s on, he is on. I could see him, with a good speech writer, motivating people the way Reagen motivated people.
It kind of reminds me of pugil stick fighting in boot camp. The drill sergeant put me up against this kid from Shiner, Texas who was half my size and just as friendly as he could be. He told me before the fight that he didn’t want to fight me, so I tried taking it easy on him in the ring. But I ended up breaking his face mask on his helmet…I didn’t mean to.
Who knows what will happen in this debate.
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Scott_Lafrance
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THat’s the way I see it and that’s the way I will continue to spell it.
Republican Party is full of Republicans.
Democrat Party is full of Democrats, not Democratics.
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Scott_Lafrance
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If Marco Rubio is not the VP pick, the GOP is infested with political idiots. He is the perfect VP ticket.
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bbarrick8383
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I agree but he doesn’t want it and to be honest I don’t blame him. I think he wants to sit this one out and build his resume for a Presidential run in the future.
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_Abyssinia
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Marco Rubio may genuinely not want to be VP, but if he did he wouldn’t say now because he wouldn’t want to be bombarded with questions or look desperate.
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Scott_Lafrance
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I get that. There is a difference between him not accepting it and the GOP not considering him. I can’t think of another person in the party who has everything you are looking for in a VP. He is young, vibrant, charismatic, has solid conservative and Tea Party credentials.
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