The 6000 Year Earth

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What source do you consider scientific and/or why do you doubt the validity of the initial statement unless you doubt it is a valid source for other information? Like your sources they are a conglomerate of many things:
memorias.ioc.fiocruz.br/963/4213hm.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylogenetic_tree
What are you trying show here? It seems like you have cited documents that support what I said, but it is Monday morning after our parish festival, so my brain isn’t up to speed yet.
Today, Tuesday, February 1, 2005, over 1,000 evolutionists formally rejected the traditional theory of evolution, called “monogenetic evolution,” in favor of a new theory of evolution, called “polygenetic evolution.”
lfnexus.com/evolutionistsrejecttheoryofevolution.htm
What an odd citation. I can’t find any info as to who the “Pro Evolution Society” is or the names of the 1,000 members who voted that man didn’t evolve. I can’t even find much about this person who seems to be very important to their decision - Dr. Michael Bisconti.
I’m familiar with it and who said it and it is as analogous to the certainty of an Earth centered universe 400 years ago because of Created Man. Has Doctrine or Dogma changed because the Earth is not at the center? No. Doctrine or Dogma never said it was and only human vanity assumed it because of the unique place the human being has in Scripture.
Be careful with denying that the earth has not been defined dogmatically as the center of the universe. There are those here who consider myself and all popes since about 1850 to be heretics because we don’t believe that the earth is the center of the universe.
The first to you maybe if you do not account for history or other news accounts but not the first, and I was predisposed to think as you as far as the science goes a number of years ago and have since changed my mind.
Show me some biologists who think that the theory of evolution shows that africans are inferior to europeans.
Why does a different human race not qualify as a 100% new organism caused by evolution? What distinction is it between the first non-human to human evolutionary branch, and the human to human evolutionary branch that is race?
Humans are 100% human. Their biology is not 100% new or else there would be no common ancestor.
I took this exchange for that exactly.
If that was not the origin of life, what is?
The first life. How it began is not relevant to evolution. The only revelance is that life existed and then evolved.

Peace

Tim
 
Makes no difference what it looks like to us, the question is what did it represent to the people who built that temple. Just out of curiosity, what other documentation from that area do we have for dinosaurs co-existing with humans? Do we have any writings, tales, bones, anything? Peace, Tim
Or corrals for the stegosauri? Paddocks and riding stables for the tyrannosauri?
 
What an odd citation. I can’t find any info as to who the “Pro Evolution Society” is or the names of the 1,000 members who voted that man didn’t evolve. I can’t even find much about this person who seems to be very important to their decision - Dr. Michael Bisconti.
Never mind. It must have been the festival.

“Dr.” Michael Bisconti’s curriculum vitae reads like this from his website:

“Dr. Bisconti is a college graduate (B.R.E., Midwestern Baptist College, Michigan) with postgraduate work (Providence Christian Seminary, Florida) and with doctoral work (Ph.D.†, Chicago Christian University, Illinois). Dr. Bisconti’s doctorates are in the fields of computer science, psychiatry, textual criticism, and theoretical physics and Dr. Bisconti has attained other levels of excellence in several, other fields. Dr. Bisconti has an IQ in the genius range.”

Do a quick google of the institutions he attended. Midwestern Baptist College exists, but I’m not sure of it’s accreditation since there is none listed on their webpage.

The search for Providence Christian Seminary in Florida yielded a Providence Christian School for pre-K through 8th grade, but no seminary or college. Now, if you drop Florida from the search, you find a Providence Christian Seminary, but it is in Canada.

The search for Chicago Christian University finds a dead link to an institution of that name, but the google summary indicates that the university was not open to students as of Feb. 11, 2005.

But, “Dr.” Bisconti does have an IQ in the genius range! That being a given ;), I don’t think I will accept him as a scientific expert.

Peace

Tim
 
Show me some biologists who think that the theory of evolution shows that africans are inferior to europeans.Humans are 100% human. Their biology is not 100% new or else there would be no common ancestor.The first life. How it began is not relevant to evolution. The only revelance is that life existed and then evolved.Peace
Tim
Tim, here’s the Creationist quote of the day:

“You evolutionists expect us to believe not only that after 3.5 billion years a man evolved, but that a woman evolved at exactly the same time, and then they met and had sex and created the human race? Just how stupid do you think we are?”
 
Tim, here’s the Creationist quote of the day:

“You evolutionists expect us to believe not only that after 3.5 billion years a man evolved, but that a woman evolved at exactly the same time, and then they met and had sex and created the human race? Just how stupid do you think we are?”
Hmm…

I assume that was a rhetorical question in that quote?😃

Peace

Tim
 
Hmm…I assume that was a rhetorical question in that quote?😃
Peace Tim
Quite possibly. At the very least it points to the crying need for better science education. I find that most of the time when I’m teaching or otherwise communicating on evolution and religion, people don’t really understand what it is that evolutionary biologists claim, and what the limits of their claims are. They are flogging dead horses, or horses that never existed.

StAnastasia
 
Hmm…I assume that was a rhetorical question in that quote?😃
Peace, Tim
Tim, do you think I could find a stegosaurus saddle on E-bay? Answers-in-Genesis either found used ones, or had theirs specially constructed.
 
I for one believe in the 6000 year earth theory. I reject evolution and see it as a hoax. According the the Chronology in my Douay-Rheims Adam, the first man was created in A.M 1 (Anno Mundi, mean year of the world). According to scripture Adam lived 930 years before he died (see Genesis 5:5). Noah was born in 1056 and the flood took place and according to scripture Genesis 7:6 Noah was 600 years when the flood took place. I would recommend picking up a copy of the Douay-Rheims and seeing this Bible and the chronology. You can get a Douay-Rheims Challoner at www.baroniouspress.com or you can search for the ultimate Haydock Bible Commentary. Both my NAB bibles, my 3 KJVs that I have, and the Douay-Rheims I own and the Haydock Bible Commentary which I had briefly before having to wrap it up to give to my sister and her fiance as wedding gift all suggest that Earth is roughly 6000 years old. I also think that Evolution is a bunch of horse poop and Evolution puts not only man, but science ahead of God and has no business in any religious matter.
 
nope not for me. I think Charles Darwin needed the deprogramming.
yeah I know … pesky logic and empirical evidence wrought through rigorous observation :confused:

Gosh why would anyone be convinced by that when there’s this really good 2,000 plus year old book lurking around telling us all those swanky carbon dating analysis’ are wrong 🤷
 
yeah I know … pesky logic and empirical evidence wrought through rigorous observation :confused:

Gosh why would anyone be convinced by that when there’s this really good 2,000 plus year old book lurking around telling us all those swanky carbon dating analysis’ are wrong 🤷
because God and his word is infallable and man and science are fallable
 
because God and his word is infallable and man and science are fallable
Since God also made the world, then God’s world is as infallible as His word. Since men are theologians as well as scientists then mens’ interpretations of Gods word are as fallible and mens’ interpretations of God’s world.

Both science and theology are fallible because both are human.

rossum
 
Humble, are you a real fan of empirical evidence? Why is it so important to you? Why is logic so important?
do you really have to ask that question of anyone? I blame Supertramp (remember the logical song). Seriously, logic and reason are, well, logical and reasonable. Who doesn’t prefer reason and logic over ignorance?

Isn’t ignorance the cause of all problems? You might add arrogance, lust, and so on to the list … but aren’t even those attributes manifestations of ignorance (not to get overly sophistic here … but you did ask the question)?
 
Since God also made the world, then God’s world is as infallible as His word. Since men are theologians as well as scientists then mens’ interpretations of Gods word are as fallible and mens’ interpretations of God’s world.

Both science and theology are fallible because both are human.

rossum
but science and theology can’t be compared in this sort of way. They’re not in the same universe scholastically speaking. Science offers tangible explanations for the physical realities of our universe, while theology is not tangible, we have no evidence the events theologians premise their various theories on actually happened (in fact we’re pretty sure the miraculous events described by the various world religions never happened).

Is 1 + 1 = 2 fallible? I’m not really sure fallibility is an applicable term here. For instance, Newtonian physics isn’t perfect, but it describes the laws of motion to near perfection (more than sufficient for our uses). However, Einstein provided a more complete theory of gravity, space, time, etc. Then quantum mechanics came along (offering a more complete explanation of the sub-atomic level).

So these formulations in science can be perfect, or not. I guess you get really flaky about this subject and say something like mathematics is only one possible description of realities we’ve been able to observe. This might be true, but if it works for our purposes, and it works perfectly, then why the sophistic babble (I say too much philosophy is a waste of time).
 
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