The American Psychological Association and homosexual partners raising kids

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So basically, though I have yet to come to a conclusion about my parents’ role (other than the obvious fact that whatever their role was [if they did have any role], they did not intend it for me or know it would lead to my development of SSA) in it, I still believe that SSA in males has its roots in not necessarily a negatively defined relationship with the father (though that is the case for some), but probably in some sort of defect in relating to males in general, from an early age; development of SSA results from this defect.
From what I’ve read elsewhere, most of the models about what makes people gay were developed with men in mind. So what about women? Did most lesbians have distant mothers and overbearing fathers (the exact opposite of what is often used to explain homosexuality in men)? And what about parents that have both a gay son and a lesbian daughter?
 
From what I’ve read elsewhere, most of the models about what makes people gay were developed with men in mind. So what about women? Did most lesbians have distant mothers and overbearing fathers (the exact opposite of what is often used to explain homosexuality in men)? And what about parents that have both a gay son and a lesbian daughter?
Good question! I don’t know - except for on a whim doing a google search about female homosexuality, I have literally done no research about female homosexuality. I would imagine that female homosexuality is also a result of some sort of issue with the female identity. I would imagine that though I’m sure there are similarities, there would be differences as well, because females - what drives them, their needs, and how they relate to females - are different than males. So though I can’t answer your question, my guess is that though there are similarities, it is not the same thing as male homosexuality - I would guess that it is not as simple as “the exact opposite of what is often used to explain homosexuality in men.”
 
Homosexual behavior is a form of mental illness because individuals who suffer from it have had trouble connecting towards the opposite sex and began to lust after the same sex due to problems bounding with their opposite gender parents.

Children raised in same sex marriages are being lead to adopt impure sexual desires and will grow up in an environment where sin and disorders are called normal how is this good for anyone?

Homosexuals have a higher risk of drug abuse, domestic violence,AIDS and suicide among other health problems.

It is not a safe or healthy lifestyle and we must pray for people trapped in this sinful lifestyle
Forgive my language, but that is utter ********.

First of all, Homosexuality is not a result of the inability to bond with the opposite sex, that theory was discredited a long time ago. I can show you individual after individual, case after case, that refutes your entire argument.

Second, you are implying that children of homosexual couples will be “seduced” into becoming homosexuals themselves, this has also been discredited. Additionally, I can show you families that are composed of same-sex parents that are the very image of wholesome and holy in their daily lives.

Third, the domestic violence, suicide, and drug abuse rates are a direct result of external pressures from society asking them to conform to the 99 percent of heterosexual culture. Bullying and the like are too blame, NOT their sexual orientation.

You are the reason why so many, myself included, have left the Church behind.

I will be sure to say a Rosary for you my friend…
 
First of all, Homosexuality is not a result of the inability to bond with the opposite sex, that theory was discredited a long time ago. I can show you individual after individual, case after case, that refutes your entire argument.
Well, on the reverse, others could probably show you individual after individual, case after case, that supports at least some of his argument if not all.
Second, you are implying that children of homosexual couples will be “seduced” into becoming homosexuals themselves, this has also been discredited. Additionally, I can show you families that are composed of same-sex parents that are the very image of wholesome and holy in their daily lives.
He said nothing of the sort. If I were to make a guess, and surely he will correct me if I am wrong, I think what he was trying to say by “being led to adopt impure desires” was their children will likely grow up believing that impure/disordered sexual desires are not actually impure/disordered. And I think that in general, he was just making the (correct) observation that when one grows up with parents whose very relationship is a sinful one, there are going to be negative consequences. Not that every single child of a homosexual couple is going to grow up crazy or something, but when a child is deprived of his or her right to be raised by his own mother and father, there are likely to be negative consequences.
Third, the domestic violence, suicide, and drug abuse rates are a direct result of external pressures from society asking them to conform to the 99 percent of heterosexual culture. Bullying and the like are too blame, NOT their sexual orientation.
I’m not going to deny that homosexuals have been unfairly treated, and still are in many ways. But I have a very hard time believing that today’s society, where more than half of our society doesn’t think anything wrong with homosexuality, is any longer the main factor behind the higher likelihood of negative consequences. I don’t know about drug abuse and domestic violence - I’m sure there are studies both for and against those theories - but what about AIDS? Shouldn’t the simple fact that AIDS is so common amongst homosexuals raise at least a liiiiitle question as to whether it is normal and/or healthy, and therefore whether it should be glorified or supported in any society? I think that AIDS alone is enough reason to wonder if there is anything wrong with homosexual relationships, and therefore is enough reason, especially for anyone who believes in God, to consider that the Church (and all of Christianity until somewhat recently) might actually be correct on the matter of homosexuality.
You are the reason why so many, myself included, have left the Church behind.
Well. Let’s be honest here, everyone is a sinner and makes mistakes. But let’s be clear here, the Church has never advocated unfair treatment of those with same-sex attraction, and our Catechism makes it clear that SSA individuals are no less deserving of love than any other human being. I’m truly sorry that you think it’s the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church that is wrong, and not the flawed individuals (as we all are) within her that are wrong. For the Catholic Church cannot be wrong in her moral teachings.
I will be sure to say a Rosary for you my friend…
I’m glad to hear you pray the Rosary even though you have left the Church, and though you were not directing this comment towards me, I still wanted to say that I will also be praying for you and for your return to the Catholic Church!
 
Sparky,
Jake and the like, ie the numerous gay activists that prowl this website, aren’t interested in getting an answer.
They just post a pro-gay question and keep on replying to it.
It is what gay activists do. Just keep putting the word gay in every post.
Yes, we are all sick of it, and yes they keep replying.
No one changes their opinion, but these people are in the business of promoting gay-isms morning, noon and night.
And it is a very successful ploy.
Many good people have given in to the question over the years “what difference will gay marriage make to you”?
Well, of course, now we are seeing exactly how badly it does affect us and our families, and our future families.
But that question was asked constantly for a decade until the politicians caved in.

So, I agree with you, on these forums, unlike the politicians, these pro-gay posts take us nowhere.
But there will always be a reply.
And yet another post.
And on and on it goes…
I’m sorry to butt in but you stated that gay marriage had adverse affects on our society. May you please tell me how this is. I’m not very educated on the cons except for the ones that are based on religious convictions.
 
I’m sorry to butt in but you stated that gay marriage had adverse affects on our society. May you please tell me how this is. I’m not very educated on the cons except for the ones that are based on religious convictions.
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youtube.com/watch?v=EZX55HUPFSU

plus, there is the wedding cake decorater.
plus there is the Idaho wedding celebrant.
plus there is a catholic bishop currently in the docks in Tasmania having to explain the Catholic stance on homosexuality.
The list goes on.
Have you and Thorolfr been in a CAVE???
 
I’m sorry to butt in but you stated that gay marriage had adverse affects on our society. May you please tell me how this is. I’m not very educated on the cons except for the ones that are based on religious convictions.
Butt in all you like.

This video may help.

youtube.com/watch?v=EZX55HUPFSU

But there is also, the wedding cake decorator who was sued.
plus there is the Idaho wedding celebrant.
plus there is a clerk who was put in jail.
plus there is a Catholic bishop currently in the docks in Tasmania having to explain the Catholic stance on homosexuality.
The list goes on.
Have you and Thorolfr been in a CAVE???
 
…plus there is a Catholic bishop currently in the dock in Tasmania having to explain the Catholic stance on homosexuality.
Yes, I understand a sealed envelope given to children at Catholic schools in Hobart, and addressed to the parent(s), which contained a Church produced booklet titled “Don’t Mess with Marriage”
google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=don%27t+mess+with+marriage

has caused the Australian Bishops (who authored the booklet) to be challenged under an anti-discrimination law! What is utterly astounding is that some parents have complained - the same parents who elected to send their kids to a Catholic School. Did they seriously suggest the school would be teaching the “goodness” of SSM (how the sexual relationship of two men fits with God’s plan?), or perhaps they expected the Church to suppress or change Catholic teaching about marriage?

The essence of the complaint to the anti-discrimination authority is that: “The church is entitled, … to freedom of speech but there’s an inherent responsibility with that, that you cannot do it in a manner which is offensive and insulting and humiliating,” the complainant said.

Now it would seem pretty unlikely that those who believe SSM is a fundamental human right, that such couples have a right to acquire by surrogacy or other means children and raisie them in a SSM (absent at least one of their natural parents, by design) will not take offence at Catholic views on those subjects. The idea that speech is free subject to it causing no offence is just absurd. 🤷
 
Yes, I understand a sealed envelope given to children at Catholic schools in Hobart, and addressed to the parent(s), which contained a Church produced booklet titled “Don’t Mess with Marriage”
google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=don%27t+mess+with+marriage

has caused the Australian Bishops (who authored the booklet) to be challenged under an anti-discrimination law! What is utterly astounding is that some parents have complained - the same parents who elected to send their kids to a Catholic School. Did they seriously suggest the school would be teaching the “goodness” of SSM (how the sexual relationship of two men fits with God’s plan?), or perhaps they expected the Church to suppress or change Catholic teaching about marriage?

The essence of the complaint to the anti-discrimination authority is that: “The church is entitled, … to freedom of speech but there’s an inherent responsibility with that, that you cannot do it in a manner which is offensive and insulting and humiliating,” the complainant said.

Now it would seem pretty unlikely that those who believe SSM is a fundamental human right, that such couples have a right to acquire by surrogacy or other means children and raisie them in a SSM (absent at least one of their natural parents, by design) will not take offence at Catholic views on those subjects. The idea that speech is free subject to it causing no offence is just absurd. 🤷
It is absurd, but it just goes to show the influence the gay activists have on politicians at the moment in western society.
 
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