Uhmmmmmmm… The “Freemasons” proper are an 18th Century invention of a bunch of (quasi-) nobles who wanted a “drinking association” where they could perform “spiritual mockery” playacting.
These are what we know them as today, but their true roots and origins go back further. There are some who claim that high ranking members of the Catholic Church are also members of the illuminati and/or freemasons, even though the church is allegedly opposed to them.
a couple of documents from the vatican website. The first is an Encyclical written by Pope Leo XIII HUMANUM GENUS on freemasonry
You’re getting REAL close to saying “Hello” to my little friend, the ignore list!
Then he’s explicitly in mortal sin for both BEING a mason, and for accepting the Eucharist unworthily.
And another thing…When was the last time YOU (the person without ANY sin) worked forty hours a week…earning absolutely nothing for yourself…to make sure that an economically disadvantaged child… picked on, ostracized by society all because they happened to be born with a upper lip that was clef…was able to get to one of the finest hospitals in the USA, have the best of the best of plastic surgeons repair their whole being, their whole future life.
I copy/pasted and will read later, then get back.
So be it. I won’t drag my father to an RCC anymore.
I have the utmost respect for the Mason’s charitable activities, positive social activism, caring, and willingness to do-the-right-thing to correct many social issues that affect the disadvantaged. They have consistently demonstrated this for many years in cities all over the world. The poster labeling them goofballs doesn’t have the tiniest clue of their vast public works, all they see is the initiation rituals. Sure its a social organization where you can have a few drinks with some buddies. Last time I went to a KofC or my parish mens club meeting, had a couple cold ones myself with some buddies. Duh.
That must have been difficult to read. Remember the Church doesn’t view your father in the way Freemasonry is viewed. It’s not your father the documents are teaching about. I pray that you and your father recieve Grace from Our Lord for his reconciliation.
Well, regardless of your “theory”, which is a private revelation which directly contradicts Magisterial teaching which your holding to could EASILY be a mortal sin in itself, no one is to receive the Eucharistic unworthily, certainly no one in explicit unrepentant mortal sin.
Quite so. I’ve never done that. More’s the purgation (or hell) due to me for not doing so. Although it’s never too late (til death of course) for “that good-worker” to reconcile with the Church and give up his mortal sins.
Yes, He does, but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (holding to mortal sin unto death) negates any amount of “good works”.
I do actually. I was a Freemason for a VERY short time. I studied all about them for months before initiating contact with them.
This is like saying the Knights of Columbus is a boys club whose fraternal goals are play acting in musketeer costumes
You’re embarrassing yourself. Provide a link from a masonic reference on this. Not some nonsense link where it claims they’re goal is to take over the world.
Well, no, actually, it isn’t.This is like saying the Knights of Columbus is a boys club whose fraternal goals are play acting in musketeer costumes
Do you think that’s unusual? I prefer to think of it as “baring my all” when called to do so for legitimate reasons, but I’m happy to see that your “oddly developed” sense of modesty is offered to me by yourself to shield me from what you perceive as “embarrassment”.
Ah, let’s see… Pike’s old book,… what is that again… “Morals and Dogma”, yeah, that’s the one.Provide a link from a masonic reference on this. Not some nonsense link where it claims they’re goal is to take over the world.
Go for it! I’m not interested in starting a “Freemasons are goofballs” thread, though.