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Indeed. :tsktsk:Blah…Pietism!
Indeed. :tsktsk:Blah…Pietism!
It is what is called a man-made tradition. Something that they’ve believed because they heard another man say it, who heard another man say it…but no one ever read it on a single page of Scripture.Precisely! 1voice has yet to provide the “proof” where the Bible teaches everything must be said and line up with the Bible in order to be true. Burden is all on 1voice to prove such a “biblical” belief.
When one makes such a claim and yet cannot back it up it is very clear: THEY HAVE NO SUCH PROOF!
Huh?Sorry. No new thread. I’m on vacation for awhile. Maybe for the rest of my life.
See ya. Maybe. Maybe not.
My frown was in reference to the remark about thread being off-topic. Not too long ago I went ahead and posted in a thread that had gone off-topic (I was not the OP) and a lurker (an ex-friend) popped in with a very uncharitable comment about how I had taken the thread off-topic, along with another poster (who I didn’t even know) and how we had used it to our benefit. That was the lurker’s contribution to the thread. I guess he was too busyto post anything of real substance.
So I got smacked for something I didn’t do and I get smacked for trying to get a thread back on-topic (well, to be honest, it wasn’t much of a smack at all; just a difference of opinion but it still stung a little and one poster wants a new thread and others don’t and I’m tired of being in the middle) and now I am very, very tired. I’ve already posted everything I wish to say about our Blessed Mother being the Ark of the Covenant. I’m not going to change anyone’s mind. I’m no longer an asset to this thread and I won’t be an asset to any threads on this topic in the near future. Besides, now this thread has gone on to a more interesting topic. Hasn’t it? I don’t think so but what do I know? Squat - that’s what.
So I’m on vacation. I’m going to immerse myself in a ton of horror books (especially those on the occult) and play online horror games all day (especially those on the occult). And go swimming.
Have fun.
Indeed. :tsktsk:
I was reading another thread and a poster said he had had enough and was leaving and another poster wrote: Don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord split you!Huh?
I simply said that I rather like it when topics go in tangents and that I leave it to the mods to direct us at their discretion.
If that stung, I apologize, Little Sister.
Don’t go away mad!
Well, only if you got in a lather about my reference to enjoying a cocktail and eating something deliciously unhealthy.
Is this directed at me? What did I do?
I respect the fact that you are very scrupulous (in the good sense) about being off-topic. I did a search of your posts and that’s a common theme for you–which is fine. That’s important to you. I get that.I’m sorry. I’m taking the thread even further off-topic.
Lovely! Count me in!Hmmmm…not bad for a patio. But here is mine, although what is mostly shown is the pool. If you click on it you’ll see a bigger scan.![]()
Hows the pool lined LittleSoldier, I spent last summer putting in a new linerHmmmm…not bad for a patio. But here is mine, although what is mostly shown is the pool. If you click on it you’ll see a bigger scan.![]()
Exactly! It gets passed on for years it eventually is believe by many to be TRUTH. :tsktsk:It is what is called a man-made tradition. Something that they’ve believed because they heard another man say it, who heard another man say it…but no one ever read it on a single page of Scripture.
That pool was so beautiful in the listing that I kept the photo. It’s not my pool.Hows the pool lined LittleSoldier, I spent last summer putting in a new linerCourse they have to be custom made. Still have to remove the cover this year, The grill and patio and yard is just about done though. Early summer this year here. Usually I wait till the end of May. BBQ last night though
Back to the TUMSPerhaps I should see the Doctor
So see we still are ON Topic:thumbsup:
Very Nice BTW:thumbsup:
And I’ve been thinking about frozen lemonade but I have iced jasmine tea right now and that’s great, too. No pie but I do have chocolate-covered macadamia nuts.
Why am I not seeing any posts about the alleged Catholic position of allowing anything that is not forbidden by the Bible? Or is it not allowing anything that is not mentioned in the Bible?Exactly! It gets passed on for years it eventually is believe by many to be TRUTH. :tsktsk:
I believe we have come to such a conclusion: Game over. Oh well! It was fun why it lasted.Why am I not seeing any posts about the alleged Catholic position of allowing anything that is not forbidden by the Bible? Or is it not allowing anything that is not mentioned in the Bible?
Is there no defense for that allegation? It was made and read by many. And now?
Crickets chirping.
chirp…chirp…chirp…
The ball is not in my court. I and others have already snocked it back over the net. Hard.
Is the game over?
This was my response. #360 (an appropriate numberWhy am I not seeing any posts about the alleged Catholic position of allowing anything that is not forbidden by the Bible? Or is it not allowing anything that is not mentioned in the Bible?
Is there no defense for that allegation? It was made and read by many. And now?
Crickets chirping.
chirp…chirp…chirp…
The ball is not in my court. I and others have already snocked it back over the net. Hard.
Is the game over?
I take the same position that I take when I talk with Mormons on this forum. If you say something that is not in scripture (especially something that contradicts what the Bible clearly and simply states as fact) and you want it to be as true as the Bible… you have the burden of proof.So what is your paradigm, then, 1voice: if Scripture is silent it’s prohibited?
Or, if Scripture is silent it’s allowed?
And I gave you a rebuttal which you ignored:I take the same position that I take when I talk with Mormons on this forum. If you say something that is not in scripture (especially something that contradicts what the Bible clearly and simply states as fact) and you want it to be as true as the Bible… you have the burden of proof.
Your belief or God’s belief? Then show me where God teaches: Everything must be said and line up with the Bible in order to be true? Where does Jesus teach such a position?1voice:
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My belief is that anything that Is truly from God must line up with the truth of the Bible… Just like every law in the US must line up with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. It is a template and a plumbline…
According to who and WHO determined such a belief?Quote:1voice
I’m simply saying…
the Bible is already proven to be true.
Then you are applying your own principle to your own belief. Where does the Bible teach everything must be in the Bible? Burden of proof is on you to show us this biblical belief. I am still waiting for the scriptural verses.Quote:1voice
You can believe whatever you choose that is not in the Bible.
But if you choose to do that …
The burden of proof is with you to show that your belief is true…
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I have seen no convincing proof of the Catholic belief that:
"our manner of praying to the Blessed Virgin has something in common with our worship of God so that the Church even addressed to her the words with which we pray to God: ‘Have mercy on sinners.’” …Leo XIII: Encyclical, Augustissimae
Or that…
“When we have recourse to Mary in prayer, we are having recourse to the Mother of Mercy, who is so well disposed towards us that, whatever the necessity that presses upon us, especially in attaining eternal life. …” Leo XIII: Encyclical, Magnae Dei Matris
Likewise…and still waiting for the convincing proof of your position:My position is bases first and formost on the fact that Jesus told us who to pray to… and Leo XIII clearly says otherwise.
. and I cannot imagine praying (as LeoXIII instructs) to anyone else. Nor (based on lots of experience with answered prayer) do I find it in any way necessary.
Well, for me the answer is demonstrated by Jesus in the Gospels. I simply follow his example. Any time Jesus was challenged in his actions he always responded to the challengers by quoting Scripture or by clarifying Scripture. Any time Jesus challenged the status quo … he quoted scripture as all the proof that he needed to defend his action.Your belief or God’s belief? Then show me where God teaches: Everything must be said and line up with the Bible in order to be true? Where does Jesus teach such a position?
Fair enough.I take the same position that I take when I talk with Mormons on this forum. If you say something that is not in scripture (especially something that contradicts what the Bible clearly and simply states as fact) and you want it to be as true as the Bible… you have the burden of proof.