The Bible and Science

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Question: Do Catholics have to believe that 8 people were left after the Flood? Despite what the CCC says.

Answer: No.

I am embarrassed by this discussion. Is it facetious or serious? If serious could rational arguments for views be given?

Do any educated Catholics seriously believe the Flood occurred? Where is it defined as Catholic Doctrine?

I have done a computer search and note in forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=547626 that a similar issue was discussed, without clarity.

It should be clear what Catholics are bound to believe.
 
NoelFitz said:
Question: Do Catholics have to believe that 8 people were left after the Flood? Despite what the CCC says.

Answer: No.

I am embarrassed by this discussion. Is it facetious or serious? If serious could rational arguments for views be given?

Do any educated Catholics seriously believe the Flood occurred? Where is it defined as Catholic Doctrine?

I have done a computer search and note in forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=547626 that a similar issue was discussed, without clarity.

It should be clear what Catholics are bound to believe.
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I’m serious.
 
I have a very hard time accepting any literalism about the Bible. From the very first chapter, in fact. If Adam and Eve truly existed, how did they procreate the human race? Their sons would have had to impregnate their own mother for humanity to continue. Doesn’t make sense, and I leave it at that.
 
NoelFitz said:
Question: Do Catholics have to believe that 8 people were left after the Flood? Despite what the CCC says.

Answer: No.

I am embarrassed by this discussion. Is it facetious or serious? If serious could rational arguments for views be given?

Do any educated Catholics seriously believe the Flood occurred? Where is it defined as Catholic Doctrine?

I have done a computer search and note in forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=547626 that a similar issue was discussed, without clarity.

It should be clear what Catholics are bound to believe.
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There was a creationist book I was interested in, mentioned on that thread, by Fr. Victor Warkulwiz but it was published in 2007, too old to keep up with science, imo. Are there any current, scientifically sound books out there on creationism?
 
NoelFitz said:
Question: Do Catholics have to believe that 8 people were left after the Flood? Despite what the CCC says.

Answer: No.

I am embarrassed by this discussion. Is it facetious or serious? If serious could rational arguments for views be given?

Do any educated Catholics seriously believe the Flood occurred? Where is it defined as Catholic Doctrine?

I have done a computer search and note in forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=547626 that a similar issue was discussed, without clarity.

It should be clear what Catholics are bound to believe.
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It is mostly an American problem.

I can only advise some people on this forum who get all their answers from answersingenesis to stay away from science, otherwise you are in danger of loosing your faith (see post #36).

Just be aware that there is world out there which is closed for you.
 
NoelFitz said:
Question: Do Catholics have to believe that 8 people were left after the Flood? Despite what the CCC says.

Answer: No.

I am embarrassed by this discussion. Is it facetious or serious? If serious could rational arguments for views be given?

Do any educated Catholics seriously believe the Flood occurred? Where is it defined as Catholic Doctrine?

I have done a computer search and note in forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=547626 that a similar issue was discussed, without clarity.

It should be clear what Catholics are bound to believe.
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I do think some flood occurred, but I don’t believe it was global.
 
virgo said:
I have a very hard time accepting any literalism about the Bible. From the very first chapter, in fact. If Adam and Eve truly existed, how did they procreate the human race? Their sons would have had to impregnate their own mother for humanity to continue. Doesn’t make sense, and I leave it at that.
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There’s much in the Bible I don’t take literally. But I must admit I never gave this any thought. Now you have me wondering. I suppose if Adam and Eve had daughters, the sons wouldn’t have had to impregnate Eve but could still have required incest between at least siblings. Interesting.
 
Hi, There is no problem with science, God also created it, just look around.

God Bless:)
 
Hans_W said:
It is mostly an American problem.

I can only advise some people on this forum who get all their answers from answersingenesis to stay away from science, otherwise you are in danger of loosing your faith (see post #36).

Just be aware that there is world out there which is closed for you.
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I doubt there are posters here who get all their answers from answersingenesis, I’ve not ran into one yet anyway. However, it seems a strange thing to be so threatened by a group of Creationists. I read and listen to Ken Ham, and agree with much of what he presents, though not all. I’ve also read and listened to Richard Dawkins and his gang, I certainly don’t feel threatened by them, nor old earth creationists, nor IDers, nor Darwinists, nor all those that fall somewhere in between.

As for me I’m fascinated by Quantum Mechanics and all the new theories coming out, I’m fascinated by IDer’s and their theories, and I love reading about classical discoveries in science. I’m good at science, I enjoy it, I understand it… and I’ve read plenty of Creationist lit, and even agree with most of it. YMMV.
 
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But then that would mean everyone else, the majority of humankind, was saved outside of the method that reflects the symbol of baptism… and that leads to some interesting theology the RCC wouldn’t accept.
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Georgias, can you take this one?
 
Faith1960 said:
When I asked my priest if we don’t have to believe the 8 people he said “I can’t answer that. …the book of genesis is more complex than most people realize. Accept it at either face value (8 survivors ) or say it must mean something else which no one really understands…”
He also said “just remember it’s a part of the story of early human interaction with God.”

So I’m not sure if we have to believe it or not.
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He also said what I wrote in post #16
 
Faith1960
If you are serious when you ask "Do Catholics have to believe that 8 people were left after the Flood? " the answer is ‘no’.

But I find it difficult to believe that you are serious. May I ask what is your background in science and religious education?
 
NoelFitz said:
Faith1960
If you are serious when you ask "Do Catholics have to believe that 8 people were left after the Flood? " the answer is ‘no’.

But I find it difficult to believe that you are serious. May I ask what is your background in science and religious education?
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I’m serious. I have no science background and went to a Catholic school up until high school, then a public school.

What is your background?
 
Faith1960 said:
Do Catholics have to believe that 8 people were left after the Flood? Despite what the CCC says.
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“Despite what the CCC says?” Are you claiming that the Catechism is deliberately misleading Catholics?
 
agnes_therese said:
“Despite what the CCC says?” Are you claiming that the Catechism is deliberately misleading Catholics?
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I’m claiming that there was never a human bottleneck of fewer than 10,000 people or so, and want to know how to reconcile that.
 
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