That’s why people choose to risk their lives and suffer unnecessarily to show what they are capable of rather than be spoilt brats without guts!
You are condemning as “show offs” every astronaut, every Polar explorer, every mountaineer, every deep sea diver and every world record holder for activities which entail risk to life. Do you really think that is their only motive? How do you judge when risking life is necessary? Should we do it for a stranger?
Atheists value their life, because they see no continuation of it. Many believers don’t value their life, they see it as an unwelcome prerequisite to get it over with and get to the “real thing”.
I have never met or heard of normal believers who want to die unless they are in constant pain or understandably depressed. They regard life as precious because it is a gift from God and unlike many people in our society they are opposed to abortion, suicide and euthanasia. To value life because it comes to an end before many people have never had the opportunity to enjoy its basic necessities is not only unrealistic; it is also immoral and fatalistic. Let injustice reign supreme!
“the perfect world” is indeed an infantile fantasy totally unrelated to the experience and wisdom of all the men and women who have enriched our understanding of love. To stake everything on a hypothetical possibility which ignores the example and teaching of Christ is sheer folly.
Pssst… it that world there would be no need for Christ… except to raise the worthy (everyone) into haven.
“haven” is an appropriate description of heaven but to expect it to exist on this earth is wishful thinking which doesn’t correspond to reality. Even without moral evil there would still be undeserved suffering and injustice. Failure, interference and competition are inevitable wherever there are billions of creatures pursuing different goals. Misfortunes are bound to occur because the laws of nature cannot cope with every contingency or accommodate the needs of every individual.
At least he has the humility to recognise the truth about the need for self-sacrifice and compassion which wouldn’t exist in the hedonistic paradise of the OP.
Self-sacrifice is only “noble” if there is no other, better way to achieve the same end. If there is no need for self-sacrifice, then it is a “folly”. A perfect world would eliminate the need for unnecessary “self-sacrifice”, and that is what one would expect from a rational designer.
That is what an irrational sceptic who has never created a world, let alone a perfect one, would expect without having even devised or produced a feasible, detailed blueprint of the mechanisms by which the need for “unnecessary self-sacrifice” is eliminated nor having specified the precise circumstances in which necessary self-sacrifice would be necessitated. In this instance the devil isn’t in the details but in the entire enterprise - which hasn’t even reached the theoretical stage, let alone the drawing board. It remains a pipe dream based solely on the desire to dispose of God and religion so that the secular society can continue even more successfully in establishing the peace, justice, liberty, equality, fraternity, harmony and happiness which are evident throughout the world in 2015. It’s a pity these terms are merely human conventions which conceal the fundamental futility and absurdity of life.
Something seems missing in the pipe dream… What can it be?
