The call to 'jihad' by Prophet Jesus (pbuh)

[Special_Ed]

can we please stay on topic. The topic is Jesus and Jihad. It isnt Muhammud, it isnt about ALLah, prophecy Moses or anything else its about Jesus and the concept of Jihad. This thread has disintegrated into tangenital nonsense

Wow!!! Another one who doesn’t understand “jihad” and what drives it. Jihad is part of both biblical and Islamic prophecy. Sorry, you are the one making absolute nonsense. And by the way. You are off topic because you do not have a clue!

You obviously don’t want to understand jihad. You don’t understand why Muslim’s call Muhammed the prophecied one and not Jesus.

Maybe you’ll understand why people who fly planes into skyscrapers and do it “in the name of Allah the merciful”…if you read and learn about it. Maybe then you will have a clue!
And if not then…

Maybe if you lose family or friends like I have in jihad, the connection between Jesus and Muhammed will become clearer.

You think???

SE

 

[Tah_Dah_Man]

hamba2han
Senior Member
Re: The call to ‘jihad’ by Prophet Jesus (pbuh)r

In needed Historical retrospect:

The Jews did their violence when they took the Promised Land as recorded in the Old Testament.

On Earth, JESUS said in Matthew 10:16,
““Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves.
Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.”

In reference to the Roman Catholic Church:
*The Inquisition of “Heretics” was instituted by the Council of Verona1184 A.D., and was legalized and promoted by the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215.

*Inquisition: The act of inquiring into a matter; an investigation. American Heritage Dictionary.

Lucius III decreed that bishops should take action against heretics. A characteristic of this decree was that a suspect, once convicted of being a heretic, was to be handed over to the secular arm for punishment. Before the Inquisition ran its course, historians estimate that 5 to 15 million people lost their lives through torture and execution. (From: A History of Christianity In The World, by Clyde L. Manschreck).

And, last, but not least:
(From: christianactionforisrael.org/un/evil_watch.html )

“The Arab jihad against the Jews and Israel did not begin with Israel’s successful defense in 1967, not even with the war the Arabs waged against the new born state of Israel in 1948, or the rejections of the two state partition plan accepted by Israel in 1947 but rejected by the Arabs. It began before the rejection by our Arab cousins of the Balfour declaration of a Jewish homeland in Palestine - a plan that was endorsed by the nations of the world. In fact, it began in 622 C. E., when Mohammed traveled to Medina and tried to force the conversion of the Jews to Islam. As a result of the refusal of the Jewish community to convert, ethnic cleansing was employed and two of the Jewish tribes were expelled. Later, in 627 C.E., followers of Mohammed slaughtered between 600 and 900 men and captured the women and children, dividing them between themselves. Following that came centuries of discrimination, pogroms and the enforced status of dhimmis, apartheid in the form of lower caste status given to Jews and Christians in Arab controlled lands - a status some equate with that of untouchables in India.”​

wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html

This is what the Islamic extremists want to follow, written in their book THE KORAN.

“O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other.
Those of you who make them his friends is one of them.
God does not guide an unjust people.” - 5:54

“Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme…” - 8:39

“Fight unbelievers who are near to you.” -9:123
(different translation):
“Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you.
Let them find harshness in you.”
(another source: )
“Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers…”

“When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens.” -47:4
(different translation: )
“When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.”

--------Now, the good news is that most of the Muslims will not follow the above. -Thank God!

chick.com/information/religions/islam/

Allah had no son
chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp

But God did

 

[exoflare]

Now we have someone citing Chick tracts on here. I knew something was missing from the party.

 

[CentralFLJames]

Hamba - your problem is you do not want to hear the truth. Your mind is poisoned with a proclivity toward thinking like a militant. This is precisely the evil inherent in Islam - it poisons the heart and sears all reason with a demonic possession that turns Islamics into mindless robots of the devil.

One last time - you are absolutely in error. Read these links if you really want insight. But why don’t you go ahead and admit that no matter what anyone says you will never change your perspective or belief. And the reason is because your brain in poisoned or defective and incapable of holding the truth or you are absolutely insincere and are here to spread deceptions and falsehoods.

A Brief Explanation of the Sword in Luke 22:36
Brief Explanation of the Sword in Matthew 10:34
Jesus, Pacifism, and the Sword

Jesus is waging spiritual warfare against Satan, demons of hell, the false prophets (which Mohammad was the worst so far in history), sickness of all types (physical and spiritual) and finally warfare of truth to reveal what is good and what is evil. He in no way condones violence to spread God’s message - ever.

The historical context of Luke 22:36 demonstrates that for three years Jesus avoided making a public, triumphal entry of his visits to Jerusalem because he understood that when he set foot in the holy city in this way, he would fulfill his mission to die, in a death that looked like one of a common criminal, just as Isaiah the prophet had predicted hundreds of years before (Is. 53:12). He needed to complete his work outside of Jerusalem.

Jesus entered the city famous for killing her prophets (Luke 13:33-34), a few days before his arrest, trial and crucifixion, all of which he predicted. He went to Jerusalem to complete scripture, instill his new priesthood with the apostles at the last supper and to die. He had no intention of starting a violent uprising. He went there to provoke the Jews into doing their part to complete scripture - which was to turn him over for crucifixion.

Read the links and if you have any questions post them here. But why pretend you are open to honest dialog when mostly all you do is a pig-headed monologue (which is a marker for hubris - the same thing that led to Satan’s downfall). You never respond to direct challenges to your idiocy. If we say “white” you say no its really “black”. The only creature so opposed to truth and proud is Satan himself. So get the truth while you still have time to or you will be consumed by the errors of Islam and be given over to Satan.

James
“Arise O Lord and let Thy enemies be scattered and let them that hate Thee flee from before Thy face!”

 

[Special_Ed]

I wonder if hamba2han looked at the link answering Islam and I wonder how many Catholic’s have bothered to peer into the links Tah Dah Man posted for us. What these articles prove is that everywhere on earth where disgusting abominations are occuring. It is at the hands of Muslim’s.

Reva Sharon said,

On the same day as this most recent bomb in Jerusalem, I am thinking of all this while other kinds of evil are taking place in Durban - while the whole world is watching. Terrorists are praised as victims, peace loving people are declared war criminals, truth is denied, and vicious racist lies are written into documents.

Muslim persecution against all non-muslim people or “infidels”, is escalating worldwide. And their goals are not what you would call insignificant. I disagree with him about this comment.

while other kinds of evil are taking place in Durban

There are too many countries where these abominations occur on a daily basis. He listed only Durban. Maybe he should have said,

While other kinds of evil are taking place in Durban and worldwide.

Speaking about how Bush appeased the Palestinian’s by not mentioning the Palestinian abominations toward Israel, the writter said,

What was required was unequivocal condemnation of the racism, hatred, and incitement in Palestinian text books, in sermons in the mosques, and in Palestinian controlled media. What was required was an unambiguous demand that the encouragement of Palestinian youngsters to become shaheeds, or martyrs, for their Jihad, would cease. What was required was an emphatic and consistent call for the Palestinians to end their ‘holy war’ against the Jews and Israel. What was required were unyielding demands that all camps training children to use automatic weapons, to kidnap Jews, and to become future suicide bombers be eliminated immediately. What was required was that the U.S. insist that the Palestinians collect all illegal weapons and have them destroyed; imprison known terrorists, and comply with all the agreements they have signed. The United States did not speak out with a strong voice on any of these issues; sadly, it was far more important not to anger their supposed friends in the Arab world. Well, the United States got its thank-you in Durban.

On the other link you posted about koranic verses, look at the verse # of this one,

Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111

Thank God for Chick Publications.

Robert Morey, another one with a bounty on his head by Muslim’s, doesn’t call these truth’s a party. I have a lot of respect for the man and have read into some of his interviews.

exoflare said,

Now we have someone citing Chick tracts on here. I knew something was missing from the party.

Bro…this isn’t funny…and this is no party. You are in need of the Spirit to enlighten you a bit. Maybe a little homework and a cup of tea would help. Be sure to take your nerve medicin. And if you come to the party, you may want to bring a few comic books and a magnifying glass.

Allah had no son, and that’s simply why the Sunni’s hate the Shia’s and fight amongst themdelves even today.

The only people who consider this a party are ignorant people who simply don’t know any better.
exo,

Did you even bother reading the articles?

SE

 

[exoflare]

Bro…this isn’t funny…and this is no party. You are in need of the Spirit to enlighten you a bit. Maybe a little homework and a cup of tea would help. Be sure to take your nerve medicin. And if you come to the party, you may want to bring a few comic books and a magnifying glass.

The comic books have been provided, it looks like… I can’t think of any other purpose for Chick Tracts other than a cheap laugh here and there.

Allah had no son, and that’s simply why the Sunni’s hate the Shia’s and fight amongst themdelves even today.

blablabla… stay on topic. The point is, Chick Tracts are a joke.

The only people who consider this a party are ignorant people who simply don’t know any better.
exo,

Did you even bother reading the articles?

SE

And you think I’M the one being uptight. This is classic.

 

[exoflare]

Thank God for Chick Publications.

People with the courage to speak the truth about Islam are a true asset in this day and age. That’s why it’s really too bad you had to flush all your credibility down the toilet by saying something like this.

 

[hamba2han]

But keep on asking your questions, Hamba because Jesus promises us:
“Knock and the door will be opened to you. Seek and you shall find”.
It is, afterall, a question of Eternal Life - isn’t it?

Yes, it is indeed a question of eternal life.

Al-Qur’an, 001.001-007
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
Master of the Day of Judgment.
Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.
Show us the straight way,
The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.

"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you." … Matthew 7:7

The above passage is actually the very first chapter of the Qur’an and it is named Al-Fatiha i.e. the Opening.

 

[CentralFLJames]

People with the courage to speak the truth about Islam are a true asset in this day and age. That’s why it’s really too bad you had to flush all your credibility down the toilet by saying something like this.

I have to agree. With enemies and the vile hatred manifest in people like Chic who needs him as a common enemy friend? Unlike Muslims who believe an enemy of an enemy is a friend we Catholics do not need to have our just cause and truth hijacked by the likes of Mr. Chic. Chic’s scorn for Catholicism and the truth have earned him an unimaginable wrath. His only chance is a deathbed conversion. But I imagine at the time he goes to meet his creator he will be too busy laughing thinking that his ignorant white trash humor has earned him indulgences. No doubt Satan is going to laugh too and explain to him that he was one if his favorite fans…

James

 

[Sagefrakrobatik]

Wow!!! Another one who doesn’t understand “jihad” and what drives it. Jihad is part of both biblical and Islamic prophecy. Sorry, you are the one making absolute nonsense. And by the way. You are off topic because you do not have a clue!

You obviously don’t want to understand jihad. You don’t understand why Muslim’s call Muhammed the prophecied one and not Jesus.

Maybe you’ll understand why people who fly planes into skyscrapers and do it “in the name of Allah the merciful”…if you read and learn about it. Maybe then you will have a clue!
And if not then…

Maybe if you lose family or friends like I have in jihad, the connection between Jesus and Muhammed will become clearer.

You think???

SE

Wow thanks for the rant can i have another please. Listen man my criticism was not leveled at you in paticular but at everyone. There is a tendency for members of internet forums to go off topic and when your going through 15 pages it gets kind of annoying.

As far as Jihad is concerned i think i know enough;

“And those who strive hard for Us, We will certainly guide them in Our ways.” (29:69)

“strive hard against them a mighty striving with the Quran.” (25:52)

“And fight with them until there is no persecution and all religions are only for Allah.” (8:39)

Hadiths

"Imran Ibn Husain said the Prophet said “A party of my community shall not cease fighting for the Truth–they shall be triumphant over their opponents.”

“YOu know that paradise is beneath the protection of the swords.”

“I have been commanded that i should fight these people till they bear witness that there is no god But Allah and keep up prayer and pay zakat, when they do this, their blood and their property shall be safe with me except as Islam requires, and their reckoning is with Allah.”

Abu Hurairah said, The messenger of Allah said; “Whom do you count to be a martyr among you.” They said, O Messenger of Allah! Whoever is killed in the way of Allah is a martyr. He said: “In that case the martyrs of my community shall be very few–he who is killed in the way of Allah is a martyr; he who dies a natural death in the way of Allah is a martyr; he who dies of the plaque (in the way of Allah) is a martyr; he who dies of cholera in the way of Allah is a martyr.”

 

[CentralFLJames]

Walid Shoebat, who has a bounty on his head by Muslim’s, is a christian Palestinian prophecy expert.

answering-islam.org/Walid/gog.htm

blessedquietness.com/alhaj/yitha.htm

Special Ed - once again you come here in a Catholic Forum and while professing to be a “born again” Catholic give references from sites (e.g. blessedquietness.com/alhaj/yitha.htm) that are profoundly anti-catholic and call the Catholic Church “the whore” and the Pope Satan. You are not Hamba’s sock puppet are you?

James

 

[swariffin]

I have pointed out this preparation for battle in this thread whereby Jesus (pbuh) leads his disciples after the “last supper” in the upper room.

He had proved himself a skilful strategist and planner, alert and resourceful. This was not the time to sit and twiddle thumbs; to be a sitting-duck, cooped up with his disciples in the upper-room! No, not for him. He leads his disciples, in the middle of the night, to Gethsemane — an olive press — a courtyard built of stone walls some 5 miles out of town.

You do not have to be a military genius to appreciate that Jesus (pbuh) deploys his forces as a master tactician. He places eight of the eleven disciples at the entrance to the courtyard, commanding them:

"… Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder." … Matthew 26:36

The question is: – Why did they all go to Gethsemane? To pray? Could they not have prayed in the upper-room? Could they not have gone to the Temple of Solomon, a stone’s throw from where they were, if prayer is all that they wanted to do? No! They went to the Garden so that they might be in a better position to defend themselves!

Observe, Jesus does not take the eight with him to pray. He positions them strategically at the entrance to the courtyard; armed to the hilt, as the circumstances would allow:

"And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee. . .
Then saith he unto them. . .
tarry ye here and watch with me." … Matthew 26:37-38

Where is he taking Peter and John and James now? Further into the Garden! To pray? No! To make an inner line of defence — he had put eight at the Gate, armed with SWORDS, to "wait and watch " — TO KEEP GUARD! The picture is very vivid; Jesus leaves nothing to our imagination. A-n-d HE (alone) prayed!

Dear Hamba2han,

If you can read Jesus mind, please explain the scenario that Jesus might have according to you. But, keep in mind that there were only 2 swords and 13 people maximums as you have said (in this case, 11 people were unarmed). Then, there were a company of guards with swords and lanterns and torches came and arrested Jesus. Why would the 8 deciples you said guarding the entrance of Getzemane unable to detect those guards? It was mentioned expressedly by John, so no need for interpretations. How can you keep the light of torches and lanterns brought by many peoples in the dark, out of sight?, so much that the remaining 3 deciples were caught off-guard? If you called it a good military strategy, it was the dumbest I have ever seen. That is why, brother, I believe that you have watched too many Kung Fu movies.

 

[swariffin]

Yes, you are quite right and I too am guilty of straying off-topic on this thread.

Anyhow, I think Christians, in focusing on the minor details of this episode, are missing the big picture here.

The main question that needs to be addressed in this instance is:

**Why did they all go in the middle of the night, to Gethsemane — an olive press — a courtyard built of stone walls some 5 miles out of town.?.. and why did they bring swords with them, even though it may have been just two(2) that the disciples could find at that time and place?

If their purpose in going to Gethsemane was entirely peaceful, then why didn’t Jesus (pbuh) just order his disciples to put the 2 swords away while they were still in the upper-room?**

Nay, the only purpose of swords or guns is to maim and to kill. People did not carry swords to pare apples and bananas in the time of Jesus Christ.

As for the “misconceived strategy”, remember that Jesus (pbuh) was not preparing for war against the Roman army but rather, since his “friend” Judas was in league with the Temple authorities, he was expecting a clandestine, underhand attempt by the Jewish oligarchy to seize him… and it was against the Jewish temple servants and the riff-raff of the town that he was planning this particular ‘jihad’.

As things turned out, it was Roman soldiers who unexpectedly overpowered them in Gethsemane and the fact that the disciples fell asleep should in no way detract from the tactical shrewdness of Jesus (pbuh) in going to Gethsemane and not staying in the upper-room.

Dear Hamba2han,

Where did exactly you get the impression that the Roman soldiers who came and arrest Jesus? I came back to all 4 gospels and found no reference that any Roman soldiers who made the arrest. Anyway, why would any Roman soldiers obey the priest? They are not Jews. Come on Hamba2han, don’t make things up, and conclude based on your own speculation.

 

[Reuben_J]

Why not??.. Don’t Catholics believe that all miracles come only from God?

No. Satan is able to concoct limited miracle.

We have to discern the miracle. What is its purpose? Does it glorify God? Does it enhance the message and the mission of the prophet? I would want to remind you then about Islam’ miracle version – the talking baby Jesus. How this did not add up in the light of the situation Jesus was in. (This was discussed in your other thread earlier on).

So not all miracles are from God nor they are necessarily true happenings.

Where is it stated in the Qur’an that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) does not perform miracles?

Please state to us those miracles and we see about them.

If being Christian means to faithfully follow the teachings and the ways of Jesus (pbuh), then Muslims are the best ‘Christians’ in the world.

They would be if they really follow the true teachings of Jesus, in which case, they would be Christians.

But Jesus does not teach anyone to marry four wives, divorces, lying both in desperate and in normal circumstances of our lives, killing, revenge. Jesus asked us to love little children and not to covet them for sex like what Mohammad did. Jesus did not teach us to have lust and covet other man’s wife. Mohammad coveted the wife of his adopted son and later on revealed a special Quran verse so that he could marry her. When he did that, did he ever think of the misery that his adopted son had losing his wife to his adopted father?

No, Jesus does not teach all these things. Therefore I cannot see Muslims can be good Christians. Yes, Muslims can be good human beings if they do not do what Mohammad did. Though in order to be good Muslim you have to follow his example, don’t you? You seem to have a problem there.

There are absolutely no mistakes to be found in the Qur’an, NONE whatsoever … unless if Christians are comparing it against what they consider to be the “gospel truth” of the Bible.

We have to compare it against the Bible when it mentions characters and episodes there.

Of course it is Muslims’ freedom to believe what they choose. But like we say, why should we choose the Quran which is conceived by a man 600 years later and claimed to be revealed by an angel without even a single witness? That’s why we ask for miracle in the case of Mohammad because there was no witness (though this not the only criteria for the verification of the Quran or for his prophethood).

While, on the other hand, there is every reason to pick the Bible. It was written by material witnesses or followers of them. This book is many generations earlier and closer to the real events, like Quran is closer to Islam.

Going by such circular logic, we can argue till the cows come home and we will not be any nearer to resolving our differences.

**Then the whole issue is whether we should believe in Mohammad or Jesus of the Bible. **

I know you have been interested in Christianity and many questions you have asked are what Muslims do want to know. I understand that it is not easy for you to leave Islam unless you are totally convinced of the truthfulness of Christianity and the lies of Mohammad.

Keep on asking and most of those doubts will be explained here.

May God bless you.

Reuben

 

[Tah_Dah_Man]

The Muslims will convert very few to their fold.
They think it resonable to do violence to persuade others to “consider” Allah and the Koran as true.

Don’t violent Muslims understand the concept of “counter-productivity?” :banghead:

But they seem to think that their violence will ultimately produce converts. :doh2:

JESUS said in Matthew 10:16,
King James Bible
“Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves:
be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.”

:console: :getholy: :bowdown2:

 

[ralphinal]

Thread getting long…I may have missed one little point. If Jesus had called for jihad in the military sense, then his very followers did not understand him at all. Acts of the Apostles shows them rejoycing to be punished for preaching the Word. In the second chapter of Acts, over 5,000 came ot believe in Jesus. At that point, why not start a revolution? You got momentum, baby, let it roll.
You see time and again the Apostles not resisting arrest. You never see any violence from them.

Historically, in the revolts that led to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Christians refused to participate. Even when faced with the destruction of their home, they did not fight. FOr centuries, we have stories of Christians not fighting execution. In fact, the peace and courage that they faced death with caused many conversions.

If Jesus was a prophet as you say and called for jihad and no one listened, what kind of prophet was he?

 

[Special_Ed]

People with the courage to speak the truth about Islam are a true asset in this day and age. That’s why it’s really too bad you had to flush all your credibility down the toilet by saying something like this.

I know of both atheist and Muslim’s that have been led to Christ with the help of chick publications.

Thank God for the ignore button and the toilet. Without it I would have to listen to your foolishness.

Bye!

 

[Special_Ed]

This is the jesus that Muslim’s believe in. This is what Catholic’s and Protestant’s should understand about…

The Muslim Jesus

After the emergence or the “rising” of the Mahdi, the second most important event among the Major Signs, is the return of Jesus Christ. Christians who love Jesus understandably get quite excited by the prospect that even Muslims are looking for and longing for His return. Unfortunately, the Islamic belief of just who this Jesus is that is coming, and what he does once he has arrived, is drastically different than what Christians believe about Jesus.

The first thing that Christians need to understand regarding the Islamic belief about Jesus is that Muslims of course reject the idea that Jesus was or is the Son of God.

According to Islam, Jesus is not as the Bible articulates, God in the flesh. Secondly, in Islamic belief, Jesus never died on a cross for the sins of mankind. The Quran specifically denies that Jesus was ever crucified or that He ever experienced death. Muslims believe that after Allah miraculously delivered Jesus from death, he was assumed into heaven alive in a similar fashion to the biblical narrative regarding Elijah. Since then, Muslims believe, Jesus has remained with Allah and has been awaiting his opportunity to return to the earth to finish his ministry and complete his life. As such, to the Islamic mind, Jesus was not in any way a “savior”. To Muslims, Jesus was merely another prophet in the long line of prophets that Allah has sent to mankind. The special title of Messiah, although retained in the Islamic tradition, is essentially stripped of any truly biblically defined Messianic characteristics. According to the sacred texts of Islam, as we are about to see, when Jesus returns, it most certainly will not be to restore the Nation of Israel to the Jewish people. Nor will Jesus’ purpose be to save and deliver his faithful followers from the ongoing persecution of the Antichrist. In order to understand the Islamic concept of Jesus’ return, the first thing that needs to be realized is that when Jesus comes back, he comes back as a radical Muslim!

This chapter will outline the Islamic traditions regarding the return of Jesus. Many of the Hadith below that refer to Jesus do not call him by the name Jesus, but rather Isa. Muslims occasionally will refer to Jesus by his English name for our sake, but the name that the Quran gives him, and which most Muslims use is Isa (or Eesa) al-Maseeh (the Messiah). Other common titles that Islam uses when referring to Jesus are Hadrat Isa (Honorable Jesus), Isa bin Maryam (Jesus son of Mary) or Nabi Isa (Prophet Jesus). Some of these titles may be used below.

The Return Of The Muslim Jesus

According to Islam’s sacred traditions, Jesus’ return is usually described as taking place just outside Damascus:

At this very time Allah would send Christ, son of Mary, and he will descend at the white minaret in the eastern side of Damascus wearing two garments lightly dyed with saffron and placing his hands on the wings of two Angels. When he would lower his head, there would fall beads of perspiration from his head, and when he would raise it up, beads like pearls would scatter from it. 1

The Subordinate Of The Mahdi

At this time, Jesus descends to meet the army of the Mahdi which will be preparing for battle. It will be just before the time of prayer.

Muslims will still be preparing themselves for the battle drawing up the ranks. Certainly, the time of prayer shall come and then Jesus, son of Mary would descend. 2

Based on the relevant Hadith, Islamic scholars seem to be in universal agreement that the Mahdi will ask Jesus to lead the prayers. Jesus will then refuse this request and will defer instead to the Mahdi to lead the prayer.

The Messenger of Allah said: A section of my people will not cease fighting for the truth and will prevail until the Day of resurrection. He said: Jesus son of Mary would then descend and their [Muslims’] commander [the Mahdi] would invite him to come and lead them in prayer, but he would say: No, some amongst you are commanders over some. 3

The important element here that needs to be stressed is that Jesus will then pray behind the Mahdi as a direct statement regarding Jesus’ inferiority of rank to the Mahdi.

Jesus Christ will decline the offer and invitation of Imam Mahdi to come and lead the Muslims in prayer, and say his prayer behind Imam Mahdi. 4

Jesus (peace be upon him) will come and will perform the obligatory prayers behind the Mahdi and follow him. 5

(Jesus) will be following the Mahdi, the master of the time, and that is why he will be offering his prayers behind him. 6

 

[Special_Ed]

**Jesus The Faithful Muslim **
After Jesus returns, in keeping with his identity as a faithful Muslim, he will perform the ritual pilgrimage to Mecca called hajj:

The Prophet said: Verily Isa ibn Maryam shall descend as an equitable judge and fair ruler. He shall tread his path on the way to hajj (pilgrimage) and come to my grave to greet me, and I shall certainly answer him! 7

Jesus Will Institute Islamic Law
While the Mahdi, as the Caliph (vice-regent) and Imam (leader) of the Muslims is clearly seen as being a superior to Jesus, Jesus is still said to be a leader of the Muslim Community. According to the Islamic traditions, Jesus’ primary purpose will be to oversee the institution and the enforcement of the Islamic Shariah law all over the world.

Ibn Qayyim mentioned in Manar al-munif that the leader… is the Mahdi who will request Jesus to lead the Muslims in prayer. Jesus will remain on the earth, not as a prophet, but as one of the Community (ummah) of Prophet Muhammad. Muslims will follow him as their leader. According to Shalabi, the Mahdi will lead the Muslims in prayer, and Jesus will rule the Muslims according to the Divine Law (Shari’ah). 8

Jesus, the son of Mary will descend and will lead them judging amongst them according to the holy Quran and the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad. 9

Jesus: The Greatest Muslim Evangelist
Islamic tradition teaches that because Jesus will declare himself to be a Muslim, he will lead many Christians to convert to Islam. Regarding those who do not convert to Islam, the Quran states that Jesus will be a witness against them on the Day of Judgment:

There is not one of the People of the Scripture (Christians and Jews) but will believe in him before his death, and on the Day of Resurrection he will be a witness against them. (Surah 4:159)

Commenting on the above verse, Mufti Muhammad Shafi and Mufti Mohammad Rafi Usmani in their book, Signs of the Qiyama [the final judgement] and the Arrival of the Maseeh [the Messiah] explain that the phrase “will believe in him before his death” means that Christians and Jews will:

…confirm that he is alive and has not died and he is not God or the Son of God but (merely) His (Allah’s) slave and Messenger, and Isa (Jesus) will testify against those who had called him son of God, the Christians, and those who had belied him, the Jews. 10

Sheikh Kabbani, Chairman of the Islamic Supreme Council of America clearly articulates the Islamic perspective regarding Jesus’ evangelistic role when He returns.

Like all prophets, Prophet Jesus came with the divine message of surrender to God Almighty, which is Islam. This verse shows that when Jesus returns he will personally correct the misrepresentations and misinterpretations about himself. He will affirm the true message that he brought in his time as a prophet, and that he never claimed to be the Son of God. Furthermore, he will reaffirm in his second coming what he prophesied in his first coming bearing witness to the seal of the Messengers, Prophet Muhammad. In his second coming many non-Muslims will accept Jesus as a servant of Allah Almighty, as a Muslim and a member of the Community of Muhammad. 11

Al-Sadr and Mutahhari, likewise articulate this same expectation:

Jesus will descend from heaven and espouse the cause of the Mahdi. The Christians and the Jews will see him and recognize his true status. The Christians will abandon their faith in his godhead (sic). 12

 

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**Jesus Will Abolish Christianity **

It is crucial to understand that according to Islamic tradition and belief, when Jesus returns, he does not merely come to convert most Christians to Islam but to literally abolish Christianity entirely. This fact is understood when we analyze a very well-known, and oft-quoted tradition that refers to four specific things that Jesus will do when he returns. Jesus is said to:

Break crosses.
Kill all swine.
Abolish the jizyah tax (a Muslim tax on non-Muslims)
Kill the Muslim antichrist and his followers.

The Prophet said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus. He will descent (sic) (to the earth)… He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. 13

The three actions of breaking “the cross”, killing pigs and abolishing the jizyah tax are based on the notion that Jesus will eliminate all other religions on the earth other than Islam. Shafi and Usmani explain that to “break the cross” means to “abolish worship of the cross”. Several Muslim friends that I’ve spoken with have expressed their understanding of this tradition: Jesus will break or remove all crosses from the rooftops and steeples of churches throughout the earth. This action will thus indicate that Jesus will be making a clear statement regarding his disapproval of the false notion that he was ever crucified on a cross. The killing of the swine is so that the “Christian belief of its lawfulness is belied.” 14 The reason for abolishing the jizyah tax (the compulsory poll-tax that non-Muslims must pay in order to live in a Muslim land) is based on the idea that when Jesus returns, the jizyah tax will no longer be accepted. The only choice that Christians will have is to accept Islam or die. As Sideeque M.A. Veliankode states in Doomsday Portents and Prophecies:

Jesus, the son of Mary will soon descend among the Muslims as a just judge… Jesus will, therefore, judge according to the law of Islam… all people will be required to embrace Islam and there will be no other alternative. 15

Even Harun Yahya, likewise affirms this belief in his book, Jesus Will Return when he says,”Jesus will remove all systems of disbelief in that period.” 16

Muslim jurists also confirm these interpretations: consider, for example, the ruling of Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri (d. 1368) from The Reliance of the Traveller, the classic Shafi manual of Islamic jurisprudence:

“… the time and the place for [the poll tax] is before the final descent of Jesus (upon whom be peace). After his final coming, nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus’ descent (upon him and our Prophet be peace) …” 17

Jesus The Slayer Of Jews
Beyond the “accomplishment” of abolishing Christianity on a worldwide scale, another of Jesus’ primary jobs is to kill a figure know as the Dajjal, or the Muslim version of the Antichrist. But not only will Jesus kill the Dajjal, but also all of the Dajjal’s followers, who consequently, will mostly be Jews. Muhammad Ali Ibn Zubair in an article entitled, Who is the evil Dajjal? elaborates:

The Yahudis (Jews) of Isfahaan will be his (The Dajjals) main followers.
Apart from having mainly Yahudi followers, he will have a great number of women followers as well. 18

Veliankode explains that one of the main reasons for Jesus return is “to refute the Jews over the controversial issue that they killed Jesus… However Jesus will kill them including their leader, the Antichrist.” 19 Listing the events of the last-days as they occur, Muhammad Ali Ibn Zubair, author of The Signs of Qiyama (Judgement Day) begins:

His followers the Yahudis, will number 70,000… (Then) Hadrat Isa (honorable Jesus) kills the Dajjal at the Gate of Hudd, near an Israeli airport, in the valley of “Ifiq.” The final war between the Yahudi’s will ensue, and the Muslims will be victorious. 20

We will discuss this “final war” between the Jews and the Muslims in more detail in a later chapter. But for now, it is important to remember that when this final war (or more accurately a final slaughter) occurs, according to Islamic tradition, it is the Muslim Jesus who is the primary instigator of such.

Jesus: A Good Muslim Family Man
One final aspect of the Muslim Jesus’ return must be pointed out. After converting the world to Islam and killing unbelievers, the Dajjal and his followers, Jesus is said to marry, have children and eventually die:

The Prophet said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus… He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him. 21