The Case for Impeachment Is Overwhelming | The American Conservative

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The only response is that it remains deadly serious that Trump supporters remain ever ready to vote for him after he shoots someone in 5th Ave. He was 100% accurate then. Farcical illustrates his extrordinary precision in his evaluation of his own voters now. Nothing new here. Just accept his own evaluation of his own voters.
 
The house voted on it and speaker voted it down.
I don’t get the point. Trump brought investigations upon himself with his own actions
 
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Of course he is officially impeached.
Indeed, even if there is a Senate trial and he is found not guilty, he is still officially impeached.
He is NOT officially impeached yet. @dvdjs
 
He is NOT officially impeached yet.
So all the newspapers are in error, when they reported that Trump IS impeached? The first part was accomplished when the House voted on the two articles of impeachment. Now comes the second part, the removal from the office - or not - depending on the Senate.

Let’s not confuse impeachment with removal.
 
Hard to face reality, when it does not support you, eh? Every newspaper, every newscast, even Fox calls it “impeachment”. All the lawyers, too. Are they all wrong?
 
He is not removed.

First step, House impeaches and then, Senate votes on removal which, I am almost 100% sure, it will not do.
 
They take an oath that goes beyond following a poll. Which if they did seems to be hovering around 50-50. Roughly.
Clinton was at 73% the day he was impeached. So it isn’t exactly equivilent using your criteria.
I don’t disagree with you OTHERWIZE. Only to add that a genuine trial should take place. Where the conclusion is published before trial begins.
This isn’t a trial in the same sense that a criminal trial is a trial. It is like one, but it is also different, just as a civil trial is very different from a criminal trial. Therefore, we can’t say that a trial isn’t genuine because it doesn’t follow the same protocols required in a criminal trial, such as finding impartial jurors.

This is elected officials deciding if another elected official has (a) committed serious offenses and (b) ought to be removed from an office to which he was elected by the consensus of the electors elected by the voters in each of the states.
The house voted on it and speaker voted it down.
I don’t get the point. Trump brought investigations upon himself with his own actions
The Constitution and the rules of the House also give the Speaker certain prerogatives. It is a very powerful position, not just a figurehead position. Still, as far as I know all she can do is to slow the process down a bit. She can’t delay it indefinitely.
Hard to face reality, when it does not support you, eh? Every newspaper, every newscast, even Fox calls it “impeachment”. All the lawyers, too. Are they all wrong?
They are premature. Impeachment is a foregone conclusion, yes. The vote is done, the protocol in the Constitution is for the House to deliver the articles of impeachment to the Senate. Until the process is completed, however, the President has not technically been impeached yet. (As far as I know, however, there is no mechanism by which the vote can take place and the articles not be delivered to the Senate just as there isn’t a mechanism by which the Senate can refuse to hold a trial.)
Farcical is what the Dems made this impeachment Not the Republicans.The continued projection is getting tiresome.You have the Dems screeching about imoeachment for three years.They vote along party line to achieve this goal and you call the Senate standing n solidarity with their president farcical?No wonder we are so divided in this country. The truth i n plain site is just ignored by those intent on despising President Trump.
Let’s be fair. Mr. Trump’s capacity and the capacity of his Administration to recognize that rules apply to him–or even for knowing what those rules are!!–has long been suspect. Honestly, the depth of his delusion concerning whether or not there are limits on the power of the President is shocking.

“Then I have an Article 2, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president.”
Donald Trump, Jun 23, 2019

That is scary wrong. Scary wrong.
 
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Sounds eerily familiar to similar comments Obama made.You know I have the pen,also I won so get in the backseat you Republicans.I wouldn’t read too much into such comments
 
Sounds eerily familiar to similar comments Obama made.You know I have the pen,also I won so get in the backseat you Republicans.I wouldn’t read too much into such comments
Oh, please, do quote when Obama said: “Then I have an Article 2, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president.”

I’d love to hear when that was, when he said roughly that same thing. Get out the pen, go for it.

Do you know who did say that? Nixon. Nixon told David Frost that: “Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal.” Yeah, nobody bought it when Nixon thought that, either.

There are some things that the President can do that would be illegal for anyone in his Administration to do. There are also things that even the President is not allowed to do, though. (If not, then the whole section on impeachment in the Constitution would be nonsensical.)
 
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He is impeached it was announced for all times from the chair. Including more house votes for impeachment than any other in American history.
And any other formalities of procedure will eventually take place
 
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He is NOT officially impeached yet. @dvdjs
Of course he is. There is some musing going on about reporting in the Senate, but what is done is done.
The democrat’s own witness, Noah Feldman, who testified has proclaimed
President Trump is not impeached yet.
 
He is impeached it was announced for all times from the chair. Including more house votes for impeachment than any other in American history.
And any other formalities of procedure will eventually take place
But hasn’t happened yet.
 
The articles are approved. It has happened. This is a novel argument being made, but it is really just a theory.
And it is meaningless. When Nancy gives up her control over the entire process, it will be within this Congress. Perhaps she waits till the Dems take McConells gavel?
 
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They were in such a hurry. Trump is a clear and present danger they warned.

Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard currently are the only 2 people in the demcrat
party that seem to realize this was a mistake.
 
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Like President Trump said they have cheapened the word impeachment.

This impeachment is based on nothing.
 
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