I don’t blindly follow anything. I study. What you find is that there is consistency of teaching with the RCC. Papal infallibility does not mean the man is perfect or even that he is moral. It does mean as he teaches with regard to doctrine and morals he is not allowed to teach against established teaching.
False. These books were added in the 1600’s, I believe. They were not “voted in” in the original cannonized books of the bible.
Christians who die are alive in Christ not dead. It is different than medium type work. Christians are always a part of the body of christ. You are just as much a part of the body of christ when you are dead as when you are alive. The resurection will happen.
People actually whorship the pope. I know you will argue this, but they fall at his feet, kiss his hand, and kneel down before him. They hang pictures of him in their homes and many people pray to him too. The church sold pictures of Jesus that they said would bring prosparity to the buyer of such pictures. There are many such teachings like this done by the pope in his infallable voice.
No. Study it. The DC books are referred to in the NT. The book of Hebrews refers to 2 Maccabees. The ECF quote extensively from the DC. The council of Trent (which I believe you are referring to) just affirms continued use. Before Luther it really wasn’t that much in question. And look at the Early KJV of the Bible you will find Appendix with the DC. You are mistaken. Any bible scholar would tell you that.
OIC. Yes. So long as one can submit one’s doubts to Him and trust that He will reconcile all of them in time. There are few who have not had conflicts with some doctrine or another. It is a humble and obedient faith, not the sure knowledge of everything that He desires from us.Baptised Catholic, attend church regularly,
receive the Eucharist, only if reconciled, but still have some doubts about some of the rules of the church.But I Know Jesus loves me as I am So My Priest tells me
I could use your argument and say people worship Rick Warren because they buy his books have pictures of him in their homes. Though as yet I don’t think anyone kisses his hand. Yes there are ignorant Catholics who don’t know what they believe just like protestants (and you keep jumping from issue to issue). I don’t believe there are any catholics who actually pray to Pope Benedict. Nonsense. The pope doesn’t have an infallible voice. He speaks ex cathedra (from the chair). And we’ve already discussed the actual doctrine of infalliblity which has nothing to do with his voice.
It’s different because I would not attend a false church as you have discribed. Alcohol is a sin to those who are weak in the flesh. Any one who drinks in front of an alcoholic, is sinning by causing that brother to fall. So if you are having a drink in private and see nothing wrong, it is one thing, but I preach on the square on Fridays to the drunks of our town. Can you guess how many of the people we talk to are catholics who say they are saved through the church even though they can’t even walk straight from the gross amount of alcohol they have consumed. They have no intention of attending church on any sort of regular basis, but they are told they can work out their salvation, so that’s what they think they are doing. As long as they don’t kill anyone, they are fine. This is the real version of catholics. Most of them attend church on Christmas and Easter yet defend their faith as true and they are on their way to hell with a warm fuzzy feeling in their heart that catholics are the true church.
I feel Rick Warren is a false teacher too. He may be saved, but he teaches false doctrine.
I agree (and most catholics will as well) its wrong to tempt anyone to sin. And I’m sure there are Catholics who are alchoholics. There are protestants also. Do you know how many protestants I know who are addicted to pornography? They all claim OSAS and believe their one event saves them. I don’t see your point. Hypocracy are in both places. Even in your church I am sure since its made up of people. Catholics getting drunk are working against their professed faith. The chruch does not teach this behavior is ok. Do yo teach pornography is ok? I don’t see how your argument follows.
*I have answered your questions on these issues and you persist with them which is not very intelligent is it? Guanophore also answered you.
One of these days Hank will declare himself a doctor of the church!! I told him that his utterances are inaccurate but he will insist.
My church had a huge event on porn Sunday. It had such a large turn out. Porn stars were invited to be part of a panel to discuss this topic. The news paper made a large deal of it.
I asked you where I could read it for myself. I was only given your opinion.
About OSAS. My husband told me he was reading in a book that at the time of the reformation, when the OSAS idea first emerged the brothels filled up because men thought “Oh boy - I am saved so…” I have been hunting all over for the book. When I find it I will elaborate. You might know something about this.
You say that as if the RCC doesn’t use scripture. They do. A lot of it. Check out the liturgy of the hours. Attend mass. Yes “bible” churches are many and they all have differing opions to what the bible actually means. Some are OSAS others are Free will or Armeniest, some are against music, some have alcohol others, think any alcohol is sinful, on and on. BTW show me scripture that says gambling is wrong. I want to see how on your toes you are.
come on wake up man…gesh.
Ok Hebrews (look for yourself) 11:35 it says this
Tell me what event is this talking about in the OT? You won’t find it but you will find it in 2 Maccabees 7.
This is where I may be able to help you. OSAS is not a no holds bar in that you are free to do whatever when ever. I understand that people have been mislead by this idea. Once a person, like myself, is saved, they do not want to sin any longer. not that the pleasures of this life are not tempting, and I’m certainly not free from sinning, but forgiven regardless. I would have unbelievable guilt if I were to participate in something as disgusting as sex with a prostitute. This would be a sin against God who has given me the very breath in my lounges yet I would not loose my salvation. This is the difference between OSAS and works type salvation. As a catholic, I was taught that unless your good deeds added up to higher than your bad deeds, you would have to find extra favor with the saints and with Mary to pray for your soul and even then, you would have to be purged of sins in the purgatory realm. I can sin, but I cannot loose my salvation. This is the peace that Christ has given His followers. We can attain peace in this life. Once you truely knoww Jesus, you step out of the fallen world and into the Kingdom of God.About OSAS. My husband told me he was reading in a book that at the time of the reformation, when the OSAS idea first emerged the brothels filled up because men thought “Oh boy - I am saved so…” I have been hunting all over for the book. When I find it I will elaborate. You might know something about this.