The Catholic schools use Scholastic Book Fairs that distributes homosexual (starting at preschool) and transgender books (starting at middle school)

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No child should be allowed to watch, read, experience anything that their parent has not vetted. That is a parent’s responsibility.

The entertainment industry is about making money, not instilling morals.
 
CilladeRoma said:
No child should be allowed to watch, read, experience anything that their parent has not vetted. That is a parent’s responsibility.
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Okay. You know very well that no parent can run ahead of their child 24/7 vetting everything they might lay eyes on (at a friend’s house, etc).

The people who market to children have a higher responsibility than when they market to adults.
 
0Scarlett_nidiyilii said:
The people who market to children have a higher responsibility than when they market to adults
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Ideally, this is true.
But in the real world, it’s all about the money.

And if a parent is honest, open and actually talks with their kids and not “to” them about these issues early on and age appropriately, they will not have to worry about outside influences.
 
CilladeRoma said:
And if a parent is honest, open and actually talks with their kids and not “to” them about these issues early on and age appropriately, they will not have to worry about outside influences.
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Except…these issues are being raised to kids who haven’t even learned where babies come from, who aren’t even in puberty yet.
 
tifischer said:
Good question. Genetic twin studies indicate the environment is 100% the factor in sexual identity. Exposing a child to any particular environment may make them prone to accepting what they experience or see in that environment in their own lives. American Pediatric Association has provided articles regarding the countless research regarding the role environment has on children.
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According to the Wikipedia article on “Biology and Sexual Orientation”:
A 2010 study of all adult twins in Sweden (more than 7,600 twins) found that same-sex behavior was explained by both heritable factors and individual-specific environmental sources (such as prenatal environment, experience with illness and trauma, as well as peer groups, and sexual experiences), while influences of shared-environment variables such as familial environment and social attitudes had a weaker, but significant effect.
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If this study is correct, that would seem to rule out environmental factors being 100% of what causes homosexuality. All the other twin studies also seem to show that genetic factors do play some part. And there is considerable evidence that the prenatal environment in the mother’s womb is an important factor. There is no other way to explain the “fraternal birth order effect”:
The fraternal birth order effect is a phenomenon that can be described in one of two ways: Older brothers increase the odds of homosexuality in later-born males or, alternatively, homosexual men tend to have more older brothers than do heterosexual men. After statistically controlling for number of older brothers, homosexual and heterosexual males do not differ in their mean number of older sisters, younger sisters or younger brothers. Older sisters, younger sisters, and younger brothers have no effect on the odds of homosexuality in later born males – they neither enhance nor counteract the fraternal birth order effect.

[T]he fraternal birth order effect operates through a biological mechanism during prenatal life, not during childhood or adolescence. Direct evidence for this is the fact that the fraternal birth order effect has been found even in males not raised with their biological brothers – it has been determined that biological brothers increase the odds of homosexuality in later-born males even if they were reared in different households, whereas non-biological siblings, such as step-brothers or adopted brothers, have no effect on male sexual orientation…

Anthony Bogaert’s work involving adoptees concludes that the effect is not due to being raised with older brothers, but is hypothesized to have something to do with changes induced in the mother’s body when gestating a boy that affects subsequent sons.
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I am 50. I learned where babies come from, in an age appropriate way when I was 3.
We live in a different time than even 50 years ago. Parents need to be responsible in teaching their children based on how society is, not how we wish it was.
 
CilladeRoma said:
I learned where babies come from, in an age appropriate way when I was 3.
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You learned about sexual intercourse at age 3?

I suppose anything’s possible, but please understand your experience was extremely outlier
 
0Scarlett_nidiyilii said:
You learned about sexual intercourse at age 3?
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I don’t think @CilladeRoma is suggesting that they were taught the biological specifics of reproduction at 3 years old.

I think “age appropriate” is operative, i.e. “well, when a mommy and daddy hold hands when they’re alone together…”. That is, introducing the understanding that it takes a man and a woman and they need to do something to make a baby.
 
Exactly. Age appropriate.

That’s the problem with this forum, everyone is so extreme.

Like it or not, the society we live in is changing. We can have on-going, age-appropriate discussions with our children about things we may find distasteful, sinful and difficult to talk about or we can stick our heads on the sand and ignore the real world.

But trust me, our kids are going to learn things (some true, most not) whether we want them to or not. All we can do is give them a safe space to discuss these things and equip them with faith and truth and pray for the best.
 
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Don’t forget, the term family, while often closely associated with biology and marriage, can be used to refer to the people you’re close to and care about as if you were biologically related (IE, there is one very Catholic girl I know who has described me/my parents as family, despite not being related in any slightly close degree I am aware of (we are both at least part Scottish, but that’s about as close as I can trace anything, and by the time you get to the modern generations, almost anyone of European descent is a descendant of Charlemagne, so… ).
 
CilladeRoma said:
Like it or not, the society we live in is changing
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But you still have to admit, this is ugly, sneaky behavior for these entertainment providers to go behind parents’ backs and propagandize to children.

And don’t forget, it wasn’t very long ago (I’m talking the space of only a few years) that LGBT was not addressed in children’s literature and cartoons . So a lot of parents were caught off guard. A lot of parents assumed (based on decades of previous experience) that the children’s channels were non controversial, if vapid, entertainment.

So yeah, it was a jerk move.
 
It is still all about money.

We are a consumer society, and people will always take advantage of that. That is why we must be “pro-active” instead of “reactive”.
Age appropriate discussions not only inform, they build trust. If your child trusts you they will come to you for answers and discussions.
If we are not honest and open, they will find others to speak with who may not share our values. It is all up to us how it plays out.
 
Michael_Anthony said:
and by the time you get to the modern generations, almost anyone of European descent is a descendant of Charlemagne, so… ).
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I’m descended from Charlemagne and here I thought that that is a rare thing. How disappointing. So, I guess everyone of European descent is part of one big family.

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Lol…those numbers do not indicate a genetic link. And identical twin studies separated at birth are even less…0 to .5…that means there is no genetic link.

Genetic link would in identical twins would be 100%. Some genetic and some environment would be 80%. Less than that is considered environment as the pivotal factor.
 
I am not extreme…I’m realistic. Saying things like “everyone is so extreme”…that’s not realistic.

Society can change but God remains the same and so should the Church’s teaching. Again, if it the Church’s teaching you don’t agree with them go to a different thread…this is not the discussion for that.
 
Proactive is teaching Gods way and love no matter what society says. One man and one woman is Gods way…reactive is teaching something other than Gods way because that is what society tells us is right.
 
Tolle_Lege said:
Does Ignatius Press or any of the other major Catholic publishers hold similar book fairs? Sad that Catholic schools are inundated with secular books for fundraising. Now they have to weasel in these other inappropriate topics.
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Ignatius press is offering an alternative. Here is the link:
https://www.ignatius.com/promotions/Book_Film_Fair/

We need Catholic alternatives to scholastic as some Christian literature may not align with the Magisterium.
 
I’ve seen the Scholastic Christian table at a local Catholic school and left unimpressed. Books about monsters in the Bible, books which draw from differing Bible translations. Scholastic is out to make a profit and a Christian table makes it easier to maintain their presence in schools where parents may begin to ask questions or raise a fuss.
Parents need to be reading books before purchasing them for their children and reviewing what comes home from the library and book fair.
Librarians do not have time to read every book they purchase. They need parental help to build good libraries.
 
Londoner said:
As for the other books, I assume that it is not implied that two males or two females were actually capable of biologically reproducing with each other. I mean, I assume that they do not describe the mechanics of how the sperm fertilises the egg. I honestly imagine that children of that age will just think it’s a cute story about Henry and Horace the hippos and how they live with their baby daughter Harriet the hippo or whatever.
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That’s a lot of assuming and imagining give a lack of knowledge about the book.
 
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