The Catholic teachings on passions is in contradiction

[Stepinac]

It says that passions (including arousal) are „christian patrimony“ (CCC 1763) and „natural components of the human psyche“ (CCC 1764) and they are neutral until they engange in some act (CCC 1767-177), but if you feel arousal upon a woman, then you're blame for lust (2514-2533; Matthew 5:27-28) even if you don't want to commit adultery (I don’t know how am I supposed to commit adultery if I don’t have a wife), or any other sexual sin which is an analogy *in malam partem*, and we gotta refuse all those feelings to be pure (CCC 2520).
Christians traditionally distinguish the difference between „attraction“ and „lust/arousal“. As well as I understand it, the differences are in intense: „attraction“ is less intensive, while „lust“ is high intensive. That’s like you say “feeling less angry is OK, but even if you feel intensively angry, than you’re blame” even if the Church says that anger is a desire for revenge. (CCC 2302).
Because of that, I anxiously worry that my attraction will escalate into lust. The life would be much easy if I could say “I don’t care if I feel aroused by a sexy woman – my feelings (including consent on my feeling) are just feelings – they doesn’t mean I want to use her as an object nor I want to commit adultery or any other sexual sin. No one is wounded.” Other christians and I wouldn’t suffer from OCD. I can't imagine the whole life in which I gotta be hyperviglian about my intensity of my feelings.
It would makes sense if lust is defined as a desire for committing adultery as well as anger is defined, not as feeling, but a desire for revenge.

 

[HomeschoolDad]

It says that passions (including arousal) are „christian patrimony“ (CCC 1763) and „natural components of the human psyche“ (CCC 1764) and they are neutral until they engange in some act (CCC 1767-177), but if you feel arousal upon a woman, then you're blame for lust (2514-2533; Matthew 5:27-28) even if you don't want to commit adultery (I don’t know how am I supposed to commit adultery if I don’t have a wife), or any other sexual sin which is an analogy *in malam partem*, and we gotta refuse all those feelings to be pure (CCC 2520).
Christians traditionally distinguish the difference between „attraction“ and „lust/arousal“. As well as I understand it, the differences are in intense: „attraction“ is less intensive, while „lust“ is high intensive. That’s like you say “feeling less angry is OK, but even if you feel intensively angry, than you’re blame” even if the Church says that anger is a desire for revenge. (CCC 2302).
Because of that, I anxiously worry that my attraction will escalate into lust. The life would be much easy if I could say “I don’t care if I feel aroused by a sexy woman – my feelings (including consent on my feeling) are just feelings – they doesn’t mean I want to use her as an object nor I want to commit adultery or any other sexual sin. No one is wounded.” Other christians and I wouldn’t suffer from OCD. I can't imagine the whole life in which I gotta be hyperviglian about my intensity of my feelings.
It would makes sense if lust is defined as a desire for committing adultery as well as anger is defined, not as feeling, but a desire for revenge.

You cannot help what you spontaneously feel, but once you become aware of these feelings, how you respond to them is where the sin lies. A temptation is not a sin. There is no need to be hypervigilant, as you put it, just divert your attentions when such feelings arise, and try to channel them elsewhere, into a positive direction. Incidentally, a single man could commit adultery by sinning with a married woman, but "adultery" in this case can extend to fornication between two single people. The sixth and ninth commandments cover all sexual sin.

Your concern seems to be more with how various words are defined, and what they mean, as well as how to respond to spontaneous feelings that involve no act of the will. I'd recommend that you consult a priest and tell him exactly what you have discussed here.

 

[Stepinac]

You cannot help what you spontaneously feel, but once you become aware of these feelings, how you respond to them is where the sin lies. A temptation is not a sin. There is no need to be hypervigilant, as you put it, just divert your attentions when such feelings arise, and try to channel them elsewhere, into a positive direction. Incidentally, a single man could commit adultery by sinning with a married woman, but "adultery" in this case can extend to fornication between two single people. The sixth and ninth commandments cover all sexual sin.

Your concern seems to be more with how various words are defined, and what they mean, as well as how to respond to spontaneous feelings that involve no act of the will. I'd recommend that you consult a priest and tell him exactly what you have discussed here.

It's impossible to say "the emotion is good, but run away from it like plage (in a positive way)". There are two options: either the attraction is sinful (lust) or not. If it's good, it can't be sinful harboring it. If it's harboring attraction is sinful, than tolerating at first glance should be sinful as well.
Welcome in Apsurdistan where you're adulter if your feeling consider normal

 

[DaveBj]

In other words, you can't stop the birds from flying over your head, but you can stop them from building a nest in your hair.

Dxx

 

[Stepinac]

In other words, you can't stop the birds from flying over your head, but you can stop them from building a nest in your hair.

Dxx

You go out of the topic: the topic isn't "how to deal with temptations", but rather "what is considered a sin or not: specifically contradictions in catholic statements on passions and lust"

 

[po18guy]

1. I see scrupulosity, the true pandemic of our age.
2. Do not rely on sola scriptura (Catechism alone), as ALL writing must be fleshed out by the spoken word (ref. Nehemiah 8:5-8).
3. Talk to your priest and receive reassurance.
4. Appeal to the Holy spirit for His gifts and you will note a change.
5. Pick a chaste Saint and devote prayer to them.

 

[HomeschoolDad]

In other words, you can't stop the birds from flying over your head, but you can stop them from building a nest in your hair.

Dxx

This is very well put.

1. I see scrupulosity, the true pandemic of our age.
2. Do not rely on sola scriptura (Catechism alone), as ALL writing must be fleshed out by the spoken word (ref. Nehemiah 8:5-8).
3. Talk to your priest and receive reassurance.
4. Appeal to the Holy spirit for His gifts and you will note a change.
5. Pick a chaste Saint and devote prayer to them.

Good advice. To the OP, I would say that this may be a case of misinterpreting what the catechism and Scripture actually say. I strongly recommend going to a priest and seeking clarification on this.

I would also say, and I am not suggesting that the OP is doing this, but I have noticed that some people (usually outside the Church) get their axles twisted around the weeds, so to speak, and find one or two "sticking points" that prevent them from accepting the Faith. The Faith must be taken as a unified whole, and where it does not seem to make sense, just accept that as part of the mystery.

 

[vz71]

It says that passions (including arousal) are „christian patrimony“ (CCC 1763) and „natural components of the human psyche“ (CCC 1764) and they are neutral until they engange in some act (CCC 1767-177)

is a very long way from

"the emotion is good, but run away from it like plage (in a positive way)".

You are human, so it is in your nature to feel emotions.
Your nature is fallen, so not all of these emotions will have a good end.

However, in neither of these instances do you exercise free will in any way.
We are not slave to emotions, and we do not have to act on them in any way that leads to sin.

It is in the exercise of the will that will determine the sinfulness in an act.

"what is considered a sin or not: specifically contradictions in catholic statements on passions and lust"

So what exactly are you looking for?

 

[po18guy]

It's impossible to say "the emotion is good, but run away from it like plage (in a positive way)". There are two options: either the attraction is sinful (lust) or not. If it's good, it can't be sinful harboring it. If it's harboring attraction is sinful, than tolerating at first glance should be sinful as well.
Welcome in Apsurdistan where you're adulter if your feeling consider normal

According to Saint Anselm of Canterbury, you lack belief. If you believed, understanding would be granted you.

 

[The_Reginator]

Hey Stepinac!
The best advice you've received thus far is to go have a chat with your priest. If possible please try to find a "traditional" or "orthodox" priest so that you are not led astray.

As you know, we all face temptations. Our Lord wants us to deal with temptations properly so as not to sin. You can develop the habit of turning to prayer when temptation comes your way. Many years ago I began to pray the God would grant me a great love for souls. I asked for that because where I was working my eyes were subject to much temptation and I realized that if I first thought of the immortal soul animating the body I would have a different response. This went beyond sexual arousal. If I was angered by anyone, I once again thought FIRST of their immortal soul. Temptation has eased with God's grace and me getting to be an "old" man. (Not quite 69.)

Dominus tecum, Reg