The dangers of dabbling in the Occult, New Age, and NeoPaganism

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Let me give a shout out to Buffy the Vampire Slayer for showing Wicca as good in some ways but could be used wrong and could be evil.

I will admit in my younger years I went to a fortune teller waste of money and now I don’t even like scary movies because I think it invites evil… ya I turned into one of those people 🙂 and I am just not a fan of scary movies lol
ah please your here since 2007 tell me you don’t believe this and you are just yanking our chain
 
You shouldn’t lump all new age into one category. Some is dangerous, some just misunderstood.

When my daughter was a baby, she was slowly dying. Failure to thrive was all the doctors could say, nothing could be done. I prayed non-stop and was lead to an alternative chiropractor. He did no chiropractic, but energy movement and muscle testing. Say what you want, but it worked! I thank God for showing me this path. It called on no spirits, no other gods or anything I found to be against my Catholic faith. But I saw my child improve immediately, and years later she is still healthy.

I think its sad that some would deny that we don’t know everything, or deny the energy in our bodies that even science is beginning to accept.
the church regards this as wrong
google.ie/url?q=http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html&sa=U&ei=TD32T4PqHcav8AOBwpiNBw&ved=0CBAQFjAA&sig2=VM0A3eTs3ZZ7qGZdqov6Xw&usg=AFQjCNHAyLstQedUgUn0Lh_AJNklYYvGmQ

Many Marian apparitions are condemned even though many people were healed.
So if it’s not originating from God and you are healed who do you think the church regards as doing it. sounds like reki.
 
There are no dangers, aside from wasting your time and money on a bunch of nonsense and doing a bunch of goofy things like wearing crystals, lighting candles, calling yourself something ridiculous like “Raven MoonShadow.”

I know it’s fun to pretend that there’s a “spiritual war” going on and that you’re on the “good guy side,” but there’s not.
Not my experience… When people mess with the occult (which generally starts with innocent New Age goofy stuff) they separate themselves from God and are easily pray to demonic attacks (spiritual but even physical). Happened to me and to many people I know. The country I come from people tend to get involved a lot with the Occult, and I have seen so much suffering… Of course if you are a faithful, prayerful Catholic nothing will happen to you because you are protected, and you are of course away from this stuff anyway…
 
What? Why are you attacking me? Please just don’t reply to my posts. Where the heck did I ‘promote’ his magic? In fact I just said in the PAST I went to a fortune teller. It was a down part of my life just to make it clear I don’t the occult, new age or wicca. I just know being Christian leads people closer to Christ or is just the way I am. I can’t judge people- sorry. Just don’t reply to my posts ok
 
What? Why are you attacking me? Please just don’t reply to my posts. Where the heck did I ‘promote’ his magic? In fact I just said in the PAST I went to a fortune teller. It was a down part of my life just to make it clear I don’t the occult, new age or wicca. I just know being Christian leads people closer to Christ or is just the way I am. I can’t judge people- sorry. Just don’t reply to my posts ok
actually i replied to several posts, i highlighted the issue with your post
Let me give a shout out to Buffy the Vampire Slayer for showing Wicca as good in some ways but could be used wrong and could be evil.
if thats not what you meant great
 
I would add that it really isn’t an attractive worldview, looking over your shoulder all the time like that. It’s practically Demonbuster levels of paranoia. (There’s still some part of me that thinks demonbuster is a parody site, I mean, stuffed animals are Satanic?)
What?!?! I went to your link, that HAS to be a joke, right? LOL, it talks about demons in people’s cell phones causing interference!!:rotfl:

Tell me that site isn’t made by someone who believes it!
 
What?!?! I went to your link, that HAS to be a joke, right? LOL, it talks about demons in people’s cell phones causing interference!!:rotfl:

Tell me that site isn’t made by someone who believes it!
Sadly, it appears to be legit. Other things they don’t like: candles, milk, pork products (basically it says to follow Biblical dietary laws–adding that it cures cancer), owls, frogs, hearts, dolls, unicorns, the paisley pattern, playing cards…it goes on.

I can’t imagine what must go on in the mind of someone who is so scared of…practically everything. It’s sad.
 
well to tell the truth i’m only after seeing the demonlink, that blacksword is referencing which puts your post in context.
 
wow it sweems we have all the magic crowd here on this thread downplaying satan.
HAH! Man, I thought only his worshipers overrate his power. The Loser Downstairs can’t even blow up a single warship.

Oh yes, all fear the mighty Prince of Darkness.

:rolleyes::rotfl:
Let me give a shout out to Buffy the Vampire Slayer for showing Wicca as good in some ways but could be used wrong and could be evil.
You know it’s funny. I’m not fan of the magic in the Buffy-verse but if magic in real life ever became like what magic is in popular fiction, it wouldn’t a religion.

It’d be an academic subject. 😛

(With me of course acting as a reputable albeit anti-social professor. Not to worry though. I at least won’t be as much of a creep as a certain Potions master. :P)
 
Indeed, it’s sad but we are only human after all. I’ve heard the devil worship lines so much they make me chuckle, but it definitely gives people a sense of superiority when they hear it. In my experience Christians “discussing the occult” equates to them ranting and raving about the dangers and busting out those inflated “pagan comes to Christ” story’s. Even if Christianity is dead set against it, you would think people would want atleast a basic knowledge of the stuff. Atleast to understand whats out there. (although I guess if anything beyond god is evil than all you need to know is throw some holy water at it)
I don’t personally have a problem with you. It’s not that, but I also have a hard time taking the pagan thing seriously, as there are very few pagans who take paganism seriously. You mostly make it up as you go along. The “gods” seem to have very little relation to the ones that the real pagans seemed to believe in. The greeks of the past lived in fear of Apollo, and he was it seems rather against the rape of a priest’s daughter – so he killed people. Modern pagans don’t say anything of the sort – it’s the old humanistic idea – it feels OK so it must be OK. Then there’s the everything-is-an-Omen pagan who thinks that hearing a rooster crow at sunrise has a huge meaning beyond “Hey stupid the sun’s up”. It’s fake. And it’s mostly a “I don’t want to be a Christian” type of pretension where the chief problem is being too much like those darn Christians.
 
HAH! Man, I thought only his worshipers overrate his power. The Loser Downstairs can’t even blow up a single warship.

Oh yes, all fear the mighty Prince of Darkness.

:rolleyes::rotfl:
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Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
i guess we need to rewrite the bible then
 
Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
i guess we need to rewrite the bible then
One problem with that little argument pal: 1. Physical Death----->2. Spiritual Death.

I guess you need to review your Catechism.

Oh and did you just capitalize the “Him” when referring to satan?

Surely you’re not referring to him the same respect only God deserves? 😉
 
One problem with that little argument pal: 1. Physical Death----->2. Spiritual Death.

I guess you need to review your Catechism.

Oh and did you just capitalize the “Him” when referring to satan?

Surely you’re not referring to him the same respect only God deserves? 😉
no i cut and paste from a copy of the bible of the internet, your trying to make a sin where there is none on my behalf.
the rest of your post is hard to grasp. maybe you could post a link to the quote in the cathechism your refering to. although i won’t hold my breath. :popcorn:it seems off the wall that we should fear death more than hell.
There are no dangers, aside from wasting your time and money on a bunch of nonsense and doing a bunch of goofy things like wearing crystals, lighting candles, calling yourself something ridiculous like “Raven MoonShadow.”
The Church is actually closer to this position than some ‘spiritual warriors’ here would want to admit.
and if you could supply something to back up this claim. highlighted in black
 
wow it sweems we have all the magic crowd here on this thread downplaying satan."
We are not downplaying Satan, I don’t even beleave he exists. Now feal free to throw out that overused “Devils greatest trick” line here, but most (not all) magic users don’t see magic as inherently anything, it’s the intent that makes it helpful or harmful.

Say what you want about being tricked and such by satan, but you just have a different view of god than Pagans.
 
We are not downplaying Satan, I don’t even beleave he exists. Now feal free to throw out that overused “Devils greatest trick” line here, but most (not all) magic users don’t see magic as inherently anything, it’s the intent that makes it helpful or harmful.

Say what you want about being tricked and such by satan, but you just have a different view of god than Pagans.
yes and we can’t both be right.
but the thing is you are down playing satan, by the very fact of saying i don’t believe xyz exists that is downplaying the possibility of the existence of xyz.
be careful of giving satan a capital S, lost thinks thats honouring him. go figure:shrug:,
 
yes and we can’t both be right.
but the thing is you are down playing satan, by the very fact of saying i don’t believe xyz exists that is downplaying the possibility of the existence of xyz.
be careful of giving satan a capital S, lost thinks thats honouring him. go figure:shrug:,
This is the attitude, mutual exclusivity, that makes people dislike Christianity. It’s not Christians fault, it’s just built in to the religion, but that’s where we disagree. You beleave one of us has to be right and one wrong, I beleave that things are reletive. Shur I beleave in angry, violent spirits, some very powerful, but I don’t beleave there is one that is the embodiment of absolute evil, or for that matter absolute good. while an entity named satan full well may exist (and intact alot of people claim to have encounters it) I beleave he like all things, is part of God, and because God is made up of all the spiritual energy in the universe, Good and Evil (I hate using these words but they illustrate things to Christians), he is perfectly in the center.

As for satan, I hadn’t intended offense I was just alwase taught you capitalize someone’s name.
 
As for satan, I hadn’t intended offense I was just alwase taught you capitalize someone’s name.
I wouldn’t worry too much about it. I think saveusfromhell was being sarcastic. It’s considered proper to capitalize someone’s name, and since in Christianity “Satan” is a name (rather than a job description, as in Jewish thought) it gets a capital, same as Njord, Kali, Loki, Inanna etc. It’s just proper grammar, and has nothing to do with giving honour to a deity.
 
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