The Devil Made Me Do It?

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T.A.Stobie:
I occassionally sense a presence characterized by the lack of love which I believe is the Satan or one of his agents. At these times, I turn even more to God, asking Him to protect me and my loved ones from the presence and influence of the evil one and to fill us with His love.

It is in His love that I recognize God.
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I have noticed this, too, the presence characterized by the lack of love. Thank you for your post–it is simple with much depth. I think it is so important to turn always to God when I sense such a presence, where there is the lack of love. I do not choose to focus on what Satan is but rather on how God is ever with me holding me in His arms of Love. That way Satan has no power.
 
Can the devil manipulate objects around us? Say, for example, could he hide my car keys or stop up my sink…in order to create conditions where I would be more likely to sin?

Is the devil’s bag of tricks usually limited to the psychological or can he physically do things?
 
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Scapular:
Some of you mention prayers that you pray in these instances.

What prayer would you rank as your #1 weapon?

Thanks,
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The most important thing you can do is to put the armour of God on [Ephesians ch 6] Without Gods armour you will lose the battle. :eek:
 
During my conversion into the Church I had a real sense of him. He would actually be in the same room with me at times, you could feel its emptyness. I also have strange reactions to his presence as well, I get this addreniline rush and the hair stands up on the back of my head.

I know I sound like a quack, which is not that far off from the truth though.

Peace 🙂
Jermosh
 
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PilgrimJWT:
Annunciata quoted a quote which stated that the greatest achievement of the devil is to convince us that he does not exist. However, the devil said he would give Christ the world if He would only fall down and worship him!
Now, then, does the devil want us to worship him because he doesn’t exist? Sounds like atheism turned on its head, doesn’t it?
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Levyist Satanists are avid atheists!

Peace 🙂
Jermosh
 
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raphaela:
I see black figures everywhere…since I was 8…that’s when i knew God exsisted, but didn’t acknowledge it until I was 16.
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Your aren’t stupid. Or crazy. Or wishful, over-imaginative, bi-polar, schizophrenic, credible, or plain dumb.
These things happen. These things appear to people.To people I love, in my immediate family. I don’t know precisely why. They have happened in my own experience, why should say, you are wrong? I coudnot… I will remember you in my prayers
 
I will not describe what I saw one night about 15 years ago, but there was sound, a female in a 1895 dress and keys were thrown on a table. I was reading and stone cold sober. Being alone I could not sleep in that room. I got some strong sleeping pills from a physician the next day. The next day I went to every room and “herded” any evil spirits out of the front door In Jesus’ Name.

Now, my last prayer is to spell out the word J-E-S-U-S , protect me. My friend keeps a small bottle of holy water under his bed and sprinkles a few drops before sleep.
 
A tall woman dressed all in black with chalk white face, deep set dark eyes, very ugly, menacing staring down at me and standing beside my bed. Her chill hit me and I was quite frightened. I woke up my husband, “there is someone in our room”. He looked around and said, go back to sleep, you are dreaming. I closed my eyes and started to pray. When I opened my eyes it was gone. When the same thing happened another time, I realized that both times I had the same houseguest sleeping downstairs. After that I prayed for protection every time she came for a visit and I never had a repeat experience. This was by far my scariest brush with pure evil.
 
You guys are all scary me man. I’m sitting here home alone (my husband works afternoon shift) well except for my daughter who’s asleep. It’s like after midnight. I feel like I did when I read the book amityville horror-yes I know that was hoax.

I definatly believe in the devil but I’ve never had such an obvious experience that I can recall anyway. When my husband was converting to the Church our relationship got turned on its ear. My husband actually wrote me a note that he was leaving me the day he left to go on a retreat with the RCIA program. We did have issues but I really think my husband was under attack because his personality changed so drastically. I felt like my husband died and I was living with a stranger. If you knew my husband he is such a warm, loving person. He was so indifferent and cold, even his facial expression seemed different.

I never prayed so hard and so much in my life. That was 6 years ago, we have beautiful relationship now and a deep faith we share. Thank you God.

I wonder why certain people have these very real experiences (visions ect) while for others its more subtle.

My husband, in his teenage stupidity dabled in some satanic stuff with a friend of his. I don’t remember all the details but he did say he had an experience where it was a very hot summer day but they room they were in became ice cool. I kind of wrote it off to an over active imagination.

I always thought the devil was more subtle and enticing. I do annoy him because I tend to be on the sceptical side. He also said when he was about 11 he saw a figure that resembled the grim reaper standing his bedroom doorway. I kept telling him he was dreaming but he swears he was awake. After reading your guys stories I kind of feel bad for doubting him.
 
Tom of Assisi:
Can the devil manipulate objects around us? Say, for example, could he hide my car keys or stop up my sink…in order to create conditions where I would be more likely to sin?

Is the devil’s bag of tricks usually limited to the psychological or can he physically do things?
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You know I have always wondered about that. I find it so strange that many times the thing I need for that moment, I cannot find. I am sure that I’ve placed the article in a particular spot. I purposely don’t get upset when I cannot find the item. Usually, later on I will find the thing in a most unlikely place (kind of hidden between or under other stuff) or I will find it in that place where I have previously looked and which I had turned upside down and inside out.

I could chalk this up as becoming forgetful as I am growing older. But then… why that particular item just when I need it?
 
re: the devil making us believe he doesn’t exist. I think the reason why Satan would want such a thing is that if we don’t believe in the devil, we will soon realize there’s no Hell, and no need for Jesus’ saving us. If we don’t believe in Hell there’s no reason for us not to sin; if we don’t believe Jesus was anything more than a good man, then there’s even less reason to be holy. So we’ll live like pagans again, sinning shamelessly and not acknowledging our Savior. Just what Satan wants!
 
…I wonder why certain people have these very real experiences (visions ect) while for others its more subtle…
…I always thought the devil was more subtle and enticing. I do annoy him because I tend to be on the sceptical side. He also said when he was about 11 he saw a figure that resembled the grim reaper standing his bedroom doorway. I kept telling him he was dreaming but he swears he was awake. After reading your guys stories I kind of feel bad for doubting him.

Sorry for frightening you. The evil spirits are not not subtle, they are obvious, rude and profane.

It is good to be sceptical, and you are doing nothing sinful or wrong, but try to be diplomatic and open-minded in the way you respond to him when he opens up and responds, even if his answers seem at first to be bizzarre or illogical. Refrain from judging these things immediately, and take time to meditiate upon what you heard at some later moment when you can think them over dispassionately, and then search your feelings thoroughly about them.

One of my grandmothers spent the remaining years of her life as a sort of hermit, and loved fasting, prayer and the Sacraments. I always wondered why every room in her house(right next door to a convent and accross the street from her parish church) had a black glass mirror in them, adjacent to the door…
It wasn’t until many years later, after she had passed away, that my father explained to me that it was a belief among the welsh that a black glass mirror can reflect the true form of Angels or Demons… he also mentioned that welsh legends say of black mirrors that anyone seeing an angel’s true reflection will die within the year. To me, my grandmother’s odd collection of black mirrors seemed to be very bizzarre, but after I heard what my dad said, I saw that, for her, it was perfectly logical, and even made a certain kind of sense, from her point of view.

I too have seen a figure resembling the classic Thanatos. But I was an adult at the time, and I must be honest with you, I could not be sure that what I observed was an actual thing -entity -creature - oh, whatever! - or a kind of illusion brought upon by great fatigue and stress.

And on a last note… I think you have every right to annoy your husband in this way. There, I said it, rebuke me if you dare, you online Gurus of advice and marital stability!!!
 
I’ve never had a scary encounter like the ones many of you are describing (and I’m so glad that I haven’t). Instead, I have begun to wonder if the devil or one of his agents is very subtly putting doubts in my mind in an attempt to undermine my faith. I can’t be sure of this, but it is an intersting thought and one which seems like it could be pretty effective in drawing a person away from God.
 
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SPQR:
I’ve never had a scary encounter like the ones many of you are describing (and I’m so glad that I haven’t). Instead, I have begun to wonder if the devil or one of his agents is very subtly putting doubts in my mind in an attempt to undermine my faith. I can’t be sure of this, but it is an intersting thought and one which seems like it could be pretty effective in drawing a person away from God.
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Dear friend

The subtle whispering that comes as thoughts in your mind is an absolute way that evil works against faith. Ask your Guardian Angel to guard your mind and then you resist this temptation and assault on your faith. This assault won’t prevail because faith is stronger than evil, the name of Jesus crushes all evil. Say the name of Jesus and ignore these thoughts, these thoughts are probably very opposite to what is in your heart and nothing to do with how you think or feel. Ignore them for the rubbish they are.

God Bless you and much love and peace to you

Teresa
 
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Theodora:
You know I have always wondered about that. I find it so strange that many times the thing I need for that moment, I cannot find. I am sure that I’ve placed the article in a particular spot. I purposely don’t get upset when I cannot find the item. Usually, later on I will find the thing in a most unlikely place (kind of hidden between or under other stuff) or I will find it in that place where I have previously looked and which I had turned upside down and inside out.

I could chalk this up as becoming forgetful as I am growing older. But then… why that particular item just when I need it?
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Dear friends

This is definitely a temptation to sin and it happens all the time. I used to lose it as I KNEW where I had put stuff and knew I was not going crazy and things would just disappear to be found in an odd place, this doesn’t happen so much, purely because that old adversary probably knows I pray straight away to God and St Anthony for intercession!!😃

Have you noticed how when you feel a bit ill or tired things start to go wrong, when you are least able to tolerate it? This is not by accident either!! This is another temptation, sometimes it feels you can’t move for temptation…simply now I take no notice of it, it all goes much smoother and the occassion of sin is far lessened…it’s the niggly way that old adversary tries to get us to sin.

God Bless you and much love and peace to you

Teresa
 
Many times when I have a particularly bad day, when everything seems to be going ‘wrong’, when people get mad at me for no particular discernable reason, I am on the alert that God is going to give me an opportunity to witness to someone. This is not a coincidence. And it always proves to be the case. I admire St. John Vianney, He was particularly tormented by Satan. Whenever Satan would throw him out of bed he would thank the devil for waking him up so he could pray for a sinner. I bet the old has been really hated that. HE really hates the praise of Jesus. It is sometimes hard to praise God when we feel attacked, but it is very effective to do that. Sometimes I get a thought to pray for a person, followed on that thought I sometimes get a doubt if that is really God. I always laugh at this feeble attempt at discouragement. As if Satan wants me to pray for someone! Not. I think he primarily works on our mind and on our thoughts. It is hard to discipline our mind to always focus on God’s will. He is constantly interrupting my thoughts and attempting to push me off course. He works in our weaknesses. It is therefore important to know your weaknesses and take precautions to protect yourself.
 
“The Screwtape Letters” by C.S. Lewis is a fictional account of a correspondence between The Devil or a demon in Hell and his nephew, a demon in training on earth.

They discuss the various ways to make men and women fall into their traps.

Lewis is not a Catholic but a good xian nonetheless.
 
Very interesting thread!

Few things we can pick out here for a Satanic MO:
  1. Darkness seems to invite evil presence better.
  2. Being alone and vulnerable seems to invite evil presence.
  3. Often evil presence attempts harassment when we are in dream like states or semi-awake.
  4. Prayer drives evil presence away.
From this we can conclude that:
  1. Evil is inherenlty cowardly (which we should already know)
  2. Evil fears the light of Christ (which we should already know)
Now, i feel comfortable enough on these forums to share a little experience of my own. This experience is the cause of why im looking into possibly converting to RC.

I nap often, so often i too am in a semi-sleep state. I was asleep (sort of) when i saw in a dream (vision?..probably not) a desert. Barren and stretching endlessly. In the background of this **desert **was a massive temple. I got the feeling that this temple was old…ancient. The temple was slightly shrouded by heat waves, so i could not make out its detail. I would say it was roughly (considering its size) 1-2 miles in distance. Next i saw what appeared to be a serpent, not a snake as we know it, but a **serpentine **creature. The **serpent **flew up in the air and dove into the hard ground, burrowing into the earth till i could no longer see it. I next had the feeling that it intended to burrow up from underneath the **temple **to make its way inside. I have my thoughts as to what this represents, but i would like some (name removed by moderator)ut if possible on your thoughts of what could be represented here.

Next came the frightening part. I began to hear moaning, like when someone is sick, you know? The **moaning **got louder and louder until i woke up, and still it persisted, until i said the Lords Prayer and it ceased.

The moaning itself was terrifying, as the spirit (or feeling) that accompanied it was one of utter, complete, desperate, loneliness. Like **loneliness **you cannot fathom, despair and contempt we as humans, are not capable of…atleast on this earth. I have never been so scared in my life, well, one other time, but i won’t talk about that.

I have been still wondering what the symbolism meant. I am not soo concerned about the sound, as it was hellish, and that is enough.

Again, i would appreciate some insight and thoughts.

Cheers
 
Dear friend

Evil in itself is desolate, it is a desert, nothing grows or blossoms there, nothing flourishes, evil is always known, by the feel of it, it always has a feeling that goes with it, evil thrives on feelings and always has a feeling that is beyond any description, but that it is most desolate and awful. It is however NOTHING, because evil cannot conquer, ever.

That old adversary has lost if we hold ourselves to our Saviour, that old adversary has nothing but himself and nothing to draw us with if we hold ourselves to Christ Jesus.

There is nothing vunerable in sleep if we sleep in Christ, say our night time prayers and sleep in the peace of Christ. We are more vunerable alone yes, but you are never alone if you place yourself in Christ, even solitary living is not ‘alone’ as Christ is always with you, even until the end of the world. If you are thinking this temple represents the church you would be wrong because the Roman Catholic church is Christ’s church and the gates of hell cannot prevail against it. Whatever the temple is it is more likely to be something personal to yourself rather than a universal revelation within your dream.

It is quite simple really, satan has lost and he knows it, he has lost and if we live in Christ, He lives in you and nothing is lost. You see satan could not tempt Christ, and Christ crushed satan on the Cross so if Christ lives in you, if you receive the Eucharist and are free of mortal sin, He lives in you, the Holy Trinity indwells you and Jesus will raise you up as His own body, as His own Resurrection and you will never die because Jesus has won for all eternity over evil and evil has nothing and IS nothing, it is nothing to be afraid of because you are a person of faith and faith destroys all evil by the power of the Holy Spirit, Jesus and God the Father.

You can stand free of fear because you are in Christ…

God Bless you and much love and peace to you

Teresa
 
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