The Devil's Battle Plan

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This is a thread to test your powers of intellect and imagination. C.S. Lewis (The Screwtape Letters) and Peter Kreetft (The Snakebite Letters) would approve.

If you were one of the Devil’s lieutenants, how would you counsel him to ruin the human race and increase the population of hell?

Or, **what strategies has the Devil already used with greatest success?
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Any takers?
From reading many of the recent answers on this thread, I think it can be observed that the Devil is using great strategies even here. The two I have observed most is convincing one that he doesn’t exist and divide to conquer techniques.This is a great opportunity to learn if you just observe.
 
The Devil has succeeded in convincing you there is no Devil?
No, actually you and your brethren convinced me of that (is it possible that you are the devil???).

My little contribution was a joke. 🙂 It attempted to point out that a rational, smart “Devil”, if he existed would have employed smart and useful tactics to make his own victory even greater than it is… To continue my little joke: “the most convincing evidence that God does not exist is that he never came down and he never kicked the living daylight out of you believers for spreading such vicious nonsense about the almighty creator of all existence”. (I admit that it is based upon the Calvin and Hobbs cartoon, where Hobbs says: “the surest sign that there is intelligent life in the Universe is that they never tried to contact us”… I hope you see the parallel.) 🙂
 
No, actually you and your brethren convinced me of that (is it possible that you are the devil???).

My little contribution was a joke. 🙂 It attempted to point out that a rational, smart “Devil”, if he existed would have employed smart and useful tactics to make his own victory even greater than it is…
Well said.
 
R Daneel…interesting points. I too have wondered why the Devil simply doesn’t use his free will and renovate hell…turn it into a fantastic place of pure hedonistic bliss.

Again, using his free will, I’m not sure why the Devil doesn’t get his own youtube channel, cable channel, radio program and take out adds in newspapers and thus be better positioned to sell the merits of his kingdom to the masses.

What better way to recruit more souls than to make hell a desirable locale and get the word out through mediums of media?!
Sounds like someone needs to turn on his TV more often and surf the net more… 😛
 
This is a thread to test your powers of intellect and imagination. C.S. Lewis (The Screwtape Letters) and Peter Kreetft (The Snakebite Letters) would approve.

If you were one of the Devil’s lieutenants, how would you counsel him to ruin the human race and increase the population of hell?

Or, what strategies has the Devil already used with greatest success?

Any takers?
One basic strategy the evil one uses is to convince us to think “it’s all about me.” Forget the poor and homeless, sick and suffering, children and elderly. . . just think about yourself and your needs. Afterall, you’re above these other pitiful creatures. In fact, thank God that you are not like them. Sins of pride and envy multiply when we open ourselves up to vain thinking.
 
The basic plan of the devil is to persuade us we are just a heap of dust. Ironically that makes us absolutely free to do what we like… Dust → Freedom!
 
The basic plan of the devil is to persuade us we are just a heap of dust.

Here’s another one. Persuade the pro-choicers that the baby inside the mother is just a heap of meaningless dust cells.
 
]The basic plan of the devil is to persuade us we are just a heap of dust.

Here’s another one. Persuade the pro-choicers that the baby inside the mother is just a heap of meaningless dust cells.
Murder Unlimited is the name of the game - sponsored by the “Man is the measure of all things” gang who don’t realise they’re playing right into the hands of the ArchFiend… :frighten:
 
The unending struggle between good and evil reached its climax when Jesus came into the world. It is not surprising that the Devil’s strategy is evident right from the moment of His birth:
  1. Herod’s diabolical massacre of the innocents was inspired by his lust for power and fear of a potential rival in the baby who was born to be king…
  2. The three temptations of Jesus in the desert are also linked with the abuse of power. The Devil suggested that He perform miracles not to help others but for His own physical pleasure, mental satisfaction and glory - which puts** the things of this world** before spiritual values.
  3. St Peter’s attempt to dissuade Jesus from His mission met with the sharp “Get behind me, Satan”. The temptation is to take the easy way out, avoid pain and put oneself before others.
  4. In the garden of Gethsemane Jesus wept tears of blood at the prospect of being scourged and crucified. In our moments of isolation when we are faced with the prospect of hardship and suffering we are probably more tempted to abandon our attempts to follow His example than at any other time.
  5. “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” The final temptation is to think of ourselves as a failure, to despair and regard life as meaningless. The cry of Jesus on the Cross shows how He felt utter desolation in His agony as His blood ebbed away. When death is imminent we too are faced with our ultimate choice - between everything and nothing. That is why we constantly ask Mary, - our Life, our sweetness and our hope - to pray for us at the hour of our death - and our Father to deliver us from the power of evil. If we reject the reality of malignant forces we are living in a fool’s paradise…
 
*If we reject the reality of malignant forces we are living in a fool’s paradise… *

AMEN! 👍
 
Charlemagne II:

Two things.

The biggest puzzle in my estimate is why it doesn’t occur to him to do nothing that has indicators of playing out prophecy. ie: if a prophecy is that Jesus is to receive a piercing or hung on a tree, then don’t tempt anyone to crucify of hang anyone up on anything. Suggest Pont Pilot to abolish crucifiction,etc, or simply don’t plant the seed for it.

Another is he can’t seem to keep records. Mary’s perfection would have stood out like a light in the dark and been a frustration exercise. If nothing else it would indicate he needs to change tact.

You fugure.

Andy
 
This is one of the recurring puzzles about Satan: that he does not seem to be so smart as he should have been. His intellect was eclipsed by his passions … in particular the will to power. He would rather reign in hell than serve in heaven. Yet you would think that, like Michael, his counterpart, he could have seen just as clearly as Michael that to oppose God is always to be on the losing side.
 
No, actually you and your brethren convinced me of that (is it possible that you are the devil???).

My little contribution was a joke. 🙂 It attempted to point out that a rational, smart “Devil”, if he existed would have employed smart and useful tactics to make his own victory even greater than it is… To continue my little joke: “the most convincing evidence that God does not exist is that he never came down and he never kicked the living daylight out of you believers for spreading such vicious nonsense about the almighty creator of all existence”. (I admit that it is based upon the Calvin and Hobbs cartoon, where Hobbs says: “the surest sign that there is intelligent life in the Universe is that they never tried to contact us”… I hope you see the parallel.) 🙂
Am I the only one to notice that this post was #666, LOL

But to your point, your are imposing your own terms of victory here. The one with the most amount of souls is the winner. Since they all will be tormented eternally, including the devil, I could hardly call that a victory.The battle is won but the war is lost.
 
This is a thread to test your powers of intellect and imagination. C.S. Lewis (The Screwtape Letters) and Peter Kreetft (The Snakebite Letters) would approve.

If you were one of the Devil’s lieutenants, how would you counsel him to ruin the human race and increase the population of hell?

Or, what strategies has the Devil already used with greatest success?

Any takers?
advice to a journeyman tempter who aspires to master status:

focus on Catholics and the Catholic Church. sow division, disunity, resentment, accusations, recriminations, blame, carping, grumbling and bitterness as broadly as “the Enemy” (as screwtape refers to the Lord) sows the seed of the Word. Ignore non-Catholic denominations, they are fostering disunity by their very existence so need little of our attention unless and until the begin to sound like Catholics–then make your move on them.

dissenting Catholics, clergy and lay, within the Church both right and left wing, are already great allies in our work and need only constant reminders that they and they alone are “the faithful remnant” to keep them committed to disobeying the Enemy’s last command before he died (glorious day for our side): Unity.

your target should be faithful Catholics among clergy and laity, and yes the tried and true still work best, attacks on purity, lying, gossip, envy, and so forth, those things that tempt them in terms of the pleasures we find so abhorret and inexplicable, but as long as we can pervert those pleasures so the Enemy’s will is not furthered by their enjoyment, as he intended, our work is productive. For the Catholic who still goes to Mass (we have largely won the battle with the others, the task there is to keep them from responding to any internal urges to return, driving past Denny’s on Sunday morning can work as well as resentment against a priest who was unkind to them 10 years ago) our best approach is to destroy the pleasure and grace they derive from worship of the Enemy by distracting their attention from the reason they are there. Again focus on their own preferences, desires, satisfaction whether in the music, preaching, architecture, personality of the celebrant, incense, art any of the peripherals that can enhance worship–all these can be use with equal effect to destroy true worship if we successfully turn the parishioner’s attention to his own needs, experience and wishes, and away from the horrible action on the altar, where we cannot even bear to look, and dare not even approach.

But our real target, and winning one of these souls is worth hundreds of the picayune sinners in the streets, is the committed Catholic who has largely one the initial battle and emerged through the dark night of the senses. Curses that their wise ones have seen through our strategy and tactics in that fertile period and warned our victims of the dangers but thankfully, so many today have forgotten those “outdated” spiritual masters. Wonderful work our new age department has done on that front, by the way.

Here our weapon is the strongest in our Disgusting Father’s arsenal: the first and foremost sin of all, Pride, and the one we are all most familiar with since it is our reason for being here in his service. Their are saints on earth, curse them, but it is our task to prevent them from being saints in heaven, and as long as we can convince them of their lofty status and encourage them to start polishing their haloes now, we have won, as long as we continue to distract them from the Enemy’s service by directing them to consciousness of how holy they are becoming.
 
Well, as long as we’re having fun speculating here, if I were the devil, I would inspire false religions and get people to follow them – and in fact, I would make it so that it would be impossible to tell false religion from true religion on any rational grounds.

Which itself raises an interesting question: how do you know that Christianity itself isn’t the greatest trick of the devil?

What if there is a god and he has made himself deliberately obscure, and the “test” of this life is to see whether you will actually use your gift of reason and reject all the supernatural religions (including Christianity) created by his adversary?

I obvoiusly don’t believe that, but we are in a position where there is no way to distinguish that crazy belief from the crazy beliefs of any particular religion, including Christianity. So I wonder how believers know that they’re not being fooled by the devil.
 
I would tell him to continue the plan he laid in Europe. It worked well there. It’s working well here in the States.
 
If I were the Devil I would encourage atheists to try sowing seeds of doubt among Christians by visiting Christian websites and referring to Christian beliefs as crazy beyond belief (as one poster just did in post #50). 😉
 
This is a thread to test your powers of intellect and imagination. C.S. Lewis (The Screwtape Letters) and Peter Kreetft (The Snakebite Letters) would approve.

If you were one of the Devil’s lieutenants, how would you counsel him to ruin the human race and increase the population of hell?

Or, what strategies has the Devil already used with greatest success?

Any takers?
I would influence people to create many religions so that the atheists on this forum would say: oh, look how similar the beliefs are in this one and that one. They must all therefore be a product of mans imagination.

I would also encourage people to take up ultra irrational skepticism concerning the question of God so that they will ignore metaphysical arguments that irrefutably prove Gods existence.

I would make them question logic.

I would make them embrace positivism and scientism so that they don’t have to accept the metaphysical implications of a guilty conscience.

I would also make it appear as if science contradicts religion.

Once they have become committed atheists pretending to be honest agnostics, i would encourage them to view themselves as more intelligent and more moral then Christians. And i would also try to convince the world that life will be more fulfilling without God.

Finally i would encourage people of the faith to commit so much evil and express so much ignorance that it really does look as if the church is a corrupt despot.

Once that is done, i will just sit back with my alco-pop and watch the degradation of the human race. HA HA HA HAHAAH AHHA AHHHAH HAA HAA AHAAAA!:mad::hypno:
 
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