The Duggars Respond to Reports That Josh Duggar Was Accused of Child Molestation

[Colorad007]

At least they don’t promote or sweep sex abuse under the rug. Abortion is the only thing on your list that doesn’t give one of the people consent.

Gays consent, people having sex outside of marriage consent, people consent to contraception. You don’t consent to being sexually abused by your teenage brother.

Under the law, no minor can consent to anything. So the 14 year-old offender can’t consent any more or less than his victims. Consent has nothing to do with this. The reason for prosecuting juvenile offenders isn’t to punish them. There are very, very few judges in the country that would try to punish a 14 year-old boy. The reason would be solely to protect the victims and help the offender. If you can accomplish those things without the stain of a police record, then absolutely that it what you should do.

 

[KendraDZ1902]

Well, perhaps that is just too bad then because we live in a country where someone is innocent until proven guilty.

Being 14 means being a child.

Or by that logic should we abolish all of the statutory rape laws?

That means if a 14 year old girl wants sex with a guy who is 30, it’s legal and acceptable, because hey, she’s not a kid and can make her own choices.

That’s the other thing—if the genders were reversed in all of this, would we REALLY be having this conversation?

14 year olds have been tried as adults.

If a teenage girl molested her baby brothers, she should be punished too. Good God, what is wrong with some of you?!

 

[ToeInTheWater]

So would the Josh allies change their minds if it turns out he molested his brothers, too?

 

[SWolf]

They should at least have gotten him professional counseling and taken steps to protect their own daughters. They did nothing for a year. The reason they finally did something is because he was continuing to molest his sisters. So they let their girls live with someone they knew was molesting them FOR A YEAR. And let’s not pretend that sending him to live with someone from church for a couple months is any kind of real counseling.

To find out your son is molesting his sisters and others is a tough situation. I don’t know what I would do. But I know I would not let him keep doing it for a year, and I know I would get him some professional help.

There’s no evidence they did nothing. They tried to resolve the situation internally in that year span. Yes, they didn’t send a police report, because it would ruin his life, and it has. This was a 14 year old.

Was it a risk to keep him in the home? Yes. It was also a risk to send him away forever, and the horrible damage that would bring on all the other members of the family.

Also, like another stated, he sent him off for four months. Yeah, it wasn’t “professional”. So what? My wife’s father is a professional counselor, and you would not believe the things he had to deal with from other “professionals”.

The kid is grown up and is an upstanding adult, the people he hurt have forgiven him, and the family is intact.

 

[SuperLuigi]

At least they **don’t promote or sweep sex abuse under the rug. **Abortion is the only thing on your list that doesn’t give one of the people consent.

Gays consent, people having sex outside of marriage consent, people consent to contraception. You don’t consent to being sexually abused by your teenage brother.

plannedparenthoodexposed.com/wp-content/uploads/PP-Investigative-Report-No-Bleed.pdf

“Every Planned Parenthood facility Live Action
investigated revealed that stafers were willing to facilitate
the abuse of minor girls by providing secret abortions.
For example, a Planned Parenthood nurse in
Bloomington, Indiana told our investigator how to lie
about her abuser’s age: “Just say you’ve seen him around;
you know, he’s 14; he’s in your grade or whatever.” Tis
same nurse advised our investigator to go out of state to
circumvent Indiana’s parental consent law”

theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/10/undercover-investigations-shocking-claim-planned-parenthood-counselors-offered-torture-sex-advice-to-minors/

“Live Action, a pro-life activist group, has released the trailer for its new undercover video series, accusing Planned Parenthood of promoting sex shops, dominatrix and BDSM to minors…The activist claims these counselors assumed the** girls were minors**.”.

 

[KendraDZ1902]

Under the law, no minor can consent to anything. So the 14 year-old offender can’t consent any more or less than his victims. Consent has nothing to do with this. The reason for prosecuting juvenile offenders isn’t to punish them. There are very, very few judges in the country that would try to punish a 14 year-old boy. The reason would be solely to protect the victims and help the offender. If you can accomplish those things without the stain of a police record, then absolutely that it what you should do.

Nothing was done and he fully knew what he was doing. 14 year old aren’t babies. They should have learned about inappropriate touching long before 14. He made the decision, multiple times, to abuse his sisters. I refuse to make excuses for him or to make it seem less than what it was.

 

[Suudy]

The operative word here is SEEMS. Until yesterday, it SEEMED Josh Duggar was a virtuous gentleman would have never dreamed of touching ANY woman sexually who was not his wife, much less subjected his own sisters to such behavior. Now we know differently.

And has he continued to be anything other than a virtuous gentleman since the incident with his sisters? Your implication that because it happened then that it continued (or continues) to happen is quite presumptuous.

If people want to give him the benefit of the doubt and call that being charitable, that is one thing. But I think we need to guard against jumping to conclusions to either absolve Josh or condemn him.

Pot, meet kettle. Nobody here is absolving him. That isn’t our role. All that is being done is defending people who have, and the only people who could, absolve him. But some on here deny that occurred or could ever occur, and are all too happy to condemn him. It seems your complaint should be against those trying to condemn him.

 

[glamourdollxoxo]

As someone who works with juvenile sex offenders at a residential treatment center he definitely needs professional treatment. A licensed professional is trained to deal with how juvenile sex offender’s work because those urges don’t just go away and will always be there.

 

[KendraDZ1902]

plannedparenthoodexposed.com/wp-content/uploads/PP-Investigative-Report-No-Bleed.pdf

“Every Planned Parenthood facility Live Action
investigated revealed that stafers were willing to facilitate
the abuse of minor girls by providing secret abortions.
For example, a Planned Parenthood nurse in
Bloomington, Indiana told our investigator how to lie
about her abuser’s age: “Just say you’ve seen him around;
you know, he’s 14; he’s in your grade or whatever.” Tis
same nurse advised our investigator to go out of state to
circumvent Indiana’s parental consent law”

theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/10/undercover-investigations-shocking-claim-planned-parenthood-counselors-offered-torture-sex-advice-to-minors/

“Live Action, a pro-life activist group, has released the trailer for its new undercover video series, accusing Planned Parenthood of promoting sex shops, dominatrix and BDSM to minors…The activist claims these counselors assumed the** girls were minors**.”.

Most people don’t go to Planned Parenthood for counseling. Especially when it is a teenage boy who sexually abused his sisters, but hey maybe they have a program for that.

 

[Colorad007]

So would the Josh allies change their minds if it turns out he molested his brothers, too?

What a silly question. Nobody is suggesting that molestation is okay, and it is still wrong if it involves members of the same sex. What we are suggesting, though, is that it is entirely possible to move on from the scars of childhood and live a wonderful, holy life. It seems that Josh Duggar is doing exactly that and that deserves admiration rather than condemnation. If we let our past sins define who we are today, our world would be even messier than it already is.

Do you actually believe in the Cross? Like, really, really believe? I do, and I’ve lived it, and that’s why it is easy for me to feel joy at the way that our Lord helps people move on from the torments of sin and become instruments for His mercy and love.

 

[SuperLuigi]

KendraDZ1902;12991537]14 year olds have been tried as adults.

But not very often, and only in clear-cut cases. I doubt this is one of those.

If a teenage girl molested her baby brothers, she should be punished too.

Sorry, but given the reaction I’ve experienced in the gender differences, I have my doubts.

The last time this came up with a younger boy and older teacher, people were saying how the younger boy “wanted it deep down in his heart cause the teacher was hot”.

That’s the kind of nonsense young males have to deal with in American society today.

 

[glamourdollxoxo]

The fact that he sexually abused five children by the time he was fourteen tells me as a professional that he has a serious problem that needs actual professional treatment.

 

[Colorad007]

Nothing was done and he fully knew what he was doing. 14 year old aren’t babies. They should have learned about inappropriate touching long before 14. He made the decision, multiple times, to abuse his sisters. I refuse to make excuses for him or to make it seem less than what it was.

It is entirely possible that you basically just slept through that year of your life. Or maybe you just forgot it. Or maybe you’re an absolute angel.

When I was 14 I was really, really dumb. I’d like to think that as an adult, I’m an awfully different person (hopefully for the better).

 

[BlueEyedLady]

In my mind, this is much less about Josh than it is the “adults” in this situation. He was a kid who was terribly wrong, but he was still a kid. It’s the actions, or rather, inaction of those responsible for him, that is so appalling and inexcusable. He could’ve gotten some help early, instead he was allowed to exhibit a longstanding pattern of sexual abuse, one that I’m not convinced that “repentece” is enough to correct.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Most people don’t go to Planned Parenthood for counseling. Especially when it is a teenage boy who sexually abused his sisters, but hey maybe they have a program for that.

Unfortunately, many people do go to Planned Parenthood.

 

[glamourdollxoxo]

In my mind, this is much less about Josh than it is the “adults” in this situation. He was a kid who was terribly wrong, but he was still a kid. It’s the actions, or rather, inaction of those responsible for him, that is so appalling and inexcusable. He could’ve gotten some help early, instead he was allowed to exhibit a longstanding pattern of sexual abuse, one that I’m not convinced that “repentece” is enough to correct.

I agree he could have benefitted from actual mental health professional services there are many residential treatment centers that deal with juvenile offenders.

 

[BlueEyedLady]

Jim Bob essentially handed over his daughters to be repeatedly molested by Josh, because Josh’s reputation was more important than the safety of his sisters.

I guess Jim Bob only had a problem with men outside of the family threatening his daughters’ “purity”. This is disgusting.

 

[Colorad007]

As someone who works with juvenile sex offenders at a residential treatment center he definitely needs professional treatment. A licensed professional is trained to deal with how juvenile sex offender’s work because those urges don’t just go away and will always be there.

That just isn’t true. Juvenile sex offense is dramatically different than pedophilia. The “desires” you think won’t go away are often rather easily channeled so that recidivism doesn’t happen. To treat a juvenile offender like an adult offender is not only clinically wrong, but it is morally wrong, too. Our justice system has been doing that since the early 90s, but over the last decade or two we’ve moved away from that almost entirely. Because it is garbage, basically.

 

[Havard]

The fact that he sexually abused five children by the time he was fourteen tells me as a professional that he has a serious problem that needs actual professional treatment.

First of all, thank you for your insight, and God bless you for the work you do.

Also, your forum name is the last thing I’d expect for someone that works with juvenile sex offenders.

 

[Colorad007]

Jim Bob essentially handed over his daughters to be repeatedly molested by Josh, because Josh’s reputation was more important than the safety of his sisters.

I guess Jim Bob only had a problem with men outside of the family threatening his daughters’ “purity”. This is disgusting.

What is disgusting is that comment, really.