The Duggars Respond to Reports That Josh Duggar Was Accused of Child Molestation

[Cider]

**What’s really disturbing to me is that Jim Bob and Michelle contradicted each other which makes me strongly suspect that neither of them were entirely truthful in talking to LE. It appears to me that they were in “cover up” mode and downplaying exactly what happened. I would not be surprised if this is much worse than what the police knew about. **

These parents were hiding something.

And I completely agree with you about the police report being released. It is absolutely horrific that it happened. Those girls have been victimized all over again for the sake of outing Josh and smearing the hated Duggar name. This was political. And maybe JOSH needed to be outed, but not at his victim’s expense. There is no excuse for those journalists who did this. They could have at least blacked out any information that would point to the victim’s living in that home and being children of Jim Bob and Michelle. There is NO excuse for that.

If they were in a coverup mode, it would be much more likely that their stories would match perfectly. Isn’t that what investigators look for. Similar stories with small variations actually support it not being a cover up.

 

[DakiniArtist]

Supposedly, this is what the Duggars use for sex abuse. It is supposed to be from Gothard’s homeschooling. Yep, keep supporting these losers. Their kids need to be taken away.

rebelmouse.com/BenSmith/1159149723.html

This handout doesn’t even spell “altar” correctly; not “alter.”

I also found this, hoping this worksheet is a fraud:

recoveringgrace.org/2014/04/there-is-no-victim-a-survey-of-iblp-literature-on-sexual-assault-and-abuse/

Did I mention I’m ecstatic to be Catholic?

 

[Mary_Estelle]

We will never know the whole or true facts of what happened . Let it go, but learn from it. Let the punishment be from God and not from any of us. I don’t believe in crucifiction by press, speculation or innuendo. P.S. I already know that I can’t spell.

 

[Galnextdoor]

Why should he be evaluated by experts: Because he molested several children.

Who do I feel should monitor him and discern whether he deserves forgiveness: I don’t know if he needs monitoring, I believe he needs to be evaluated by a mental health professional (psychologist/psychiatrist). If his risk of repeat offending is insignificant, he may not need monitoring. As for forgiveness, where did you get the idea that someone else should discern whether he deserves forgiveness? I never said anything remotely resembling that notion.

Who do I feel has the right to tell him whether he can continue to live a typical life: This is a strange and leading question. He needs to be aware of how what his abuse means for his mental health. If I thought I could possibly have increased propensity to abuse people, I would want to know. That’s just the right, responsible thing to do. What it means for his lifestyle is dependent on the risks, or lack thereof, and the prescribed ways to manage said risks.

If you read the report, he was 13 years old at the time these incidences happened. His one sister said she thought he was just taking a blanket off of her. She didn’t realize that he deliberately touched her.

His sisters stated that in the 3 and half years following these incidents, he never touched them. The one little girl who was in the laundry room couldn’t even remember what happened. She had to be told by her sister. She thought that he was simply pointing out a hole in the seat of her jeans that she was wearing a skirt over.

He was never charged with any crime. In Arkansas the statute of limitations on molestation is 3 years after the discovery or 3 years after the victim turns 18. The magazine conveniently left out the second part.

I don’t think that we, as a society, have a right to impose mental health treatment on people someone because* we don’t think* that the treatment he received was adequate.

If there were other documented cases that didn’t rely on his perception of what he did, then I would say that someone needs to do something.

He is in his late 20’s. If this continued to occur, I think that victims will come forward.

 

[Tiber_Pilgrim]

We will never know the whole or true facts of what happened . Let it go, but learn from it. Let the punishment be from God and not from any of us. I don’t believe in crucifiction by press, speculation or innuendo.

You are right Mary Estelle, this really is none of our business. None of us know what really happened in this situation and the only information we are being given is coming from a sensualized media that in many instances has an agenda as it relates to the Duggars. So many people on this thread are making judgments and arriving at conclusions based on very little information.

We should simply pray for all those involved instead of engaging in the type of crucifixion you spoke of, which is exactly what is occurring within the press.

 

[KendraDZ1902]

This handout doesn’t even spell “altar” correctly; not “alter.”

I also found this, hoping this worksheet is a fraud:

recoveringgrace.org/2014/04/there-is-no-victim-a-survey-of-iblp-literature-on-sexual-assault-and-abuse/

Did I mention I’m ecstatic to be Catholic?

Yep, not a fraud. Awful, isn’t it?

 

[Tiber_Pilgrim]

I really hope you’re able to comprehend that there’s a difference between two adults engaging in consensual sex and a child being forcibly molested.

Both are sin Gordon. Indeed, both can be mortal sin and both cause emotional harm. There is no need to “excuse” either adultery or sexual abuse. Both are wrong.

Still, we are called to show mercy to sinners instead of simply “loading on” a poor soul when they have fallen. That doesn’t mean we excuse sin or that there should not be civil consequences to crimes. It just means that we recognize none of us are without sin and we seek to love as Christ loved, instead of establishing ourselves as judge and jury of a situation we know very little about.

 

[KendraDZ1902]

If you read the report, he was 13 years old at the time these incidences happened. His one sister said she thought he was just taking a blanket off of her. She didn’t realize that he deliberately touched her.

His sisters stated that in the 3 and half years following these incidents, he never touched them. The one little girl who was in the laundry room couldn’t even remember what happened. She had to be told by her sister. She thought that he was simply pointing out a hole in the seat of her jeans that she was wearing a skirt over.

He was never charged with any crime. In Arkansas the statute of limitations on molestation is 3 years after the discovery or 3 years after the victim turns 18. The magazine conveniently left out the second part.

I don’t think that we, as a society, have a right to impose mental health treatment on people someone because* we don’t think* that the treatment he received was adequate.

If there were other documented cases that didn’t rely on his perception of what he did, then I would say that someone needs to do something.

He is in his late 20’s. If this continued to occur, I think that victims will come forward.

Did you not see the handout these people use? These kids are so messed up.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

You are right Mary Estelle, this really is none of our business. None of us know what really happened in this situation and the only information we are being given is coming from a sensualized media that in many instances has an agenda as it relates to the Duggars. So many people on this thread are making judgments and arriving at conclusions based on very little information.

We should simply pray for all those involved instead of engaging in the type of crucifixion you spoke of, which is exactly what is occurring within the press.

No one is “crucifying anyone” and his judgement is up to God, but it is kind of our business when the Duggars make it our business by being on TV and Josh taking a political position. Honestly this is the real judgement I have. It is on Jim Bob, who dealt poorly with a son involved in incest and then made just a shockingly bad decision to pay the bills by becoming celebrities. This is a decision that as a Christian and a Father I cannot comprehend.

 

[KendraDZ1902]

Both are sin Gordon. Indeed, both can be mortal sin and both cause emotional harm. There is no need to “excuse” either adultery or sexual abuse. Both are wrong.

Still, we are called to show mercy to sinners instead of simply “loading on” a poor soul when they have fallen. That doesn’t mean we excuse sin or that there should not be civil consequences to crimes. It just means that we recognize none of us are without sin and we seek to love as Christ loved, instead of establishing ourselves as judge and jury of a situation we know very little about.

Wow. I seriously can’t believe you people. You can’t see the difference between consensual sex and sex abuse? They are both simply sins and wrong?

I vote for everyone on this thread to have a psych eval.

 

[Tiber_Pilgrim]

These kids are so messed up.

How do you know this Kendra? Do you personally know these children? Have you spent personal time with this family getting to know them or are you just going off speculation and innuendo?

You are so quick to rush to negative judgments about this family for some reason. To claim that these kids are “so messed up” when you don’t even know them is unfortunate to see.

 

[KendraDZ1902]

How do you know this Kendra? Do you personally know these children? Have you spent personal time with this family getting to know them or are you just going off speculation and innuendo?

You are so quick to rush to negative judgments about this family for some reason. To claim that these kids are “so messed up” when you don’t even know them is unfortunate to see.

Did you not see the freaking abuse sheet? It is horrific.
I see nothing positive in a teenage boy feeling up his little sisters and mom and dad sweeping it under the rug. That is wrong and anyone in their right damn mind would know that. It is unfortunate that so many people are quick to defend these people when what they did was abhorrent. Shame on all of you.

If a child, who was sexually abused, was given that sheet of paper, they are messed up. Because it isn’t true. It is terrible.

 

[Tiber_Pilgrim]

No one is “crucifying anyone”

Sure they are. Have you read the articles in the media or listen to some of the media coverage? Just read some of the comments on this thread. You would think Josh Duggar is the most evil person on the face of the planet because of what he did as a minor.

And again, why do you feel the need to make a judgment? Do you know all the facts about this family or this situation? Why can’t we just admit this is an unfortunate situation and simply pray for all those involved instead of having to level claims against the Duggar family?

 

[KendraDZ1902]

Sure they are. Have you read the articles in the media or listen to some of the media coverage? Just read some of the comments on this thread. You would think Josh Duggar is the most evil person on the face of the planet because of what he did as a minor.

And again, why do you feel the need to make a judgment? Do you know all the facts about this family or this situation? Why can’t we just admit this is an unfortunate situation and simply pray for all those involved instead of having to level claims against the Duggar family?

Minors who commit serious crimes follow them for the rest of their life.

Judgment isn’t wrong. We judge actions every single day. No one is condemning him to Hell.

 

[Tiber_Pilgrim]

Wow. I seriously can’t believe you people. You can’t see the difference between consensual sex and sex abuse? They are both simply sins and wrong?

So are you claiming adultery is not sin? That it isn’t wrong or that it doesn’t cause lasting harm to individuals and families? Adultery harms many lives Kendra…it isn’t just “consensual sex” that should be downplayed.

There is no need to excuse any sin. Sin is sin regardless of how it manifests itself.

 

[KendraDZ1902]

So are you claiming adultery is not sin? That it isn’t wrong or that it doesn’t cause lasting harm to individuals and families? Adultery harms many lives Kendra…it isn’t just “consensual sex” that should be downplayed.

There is no need to excuse any sin. Sin is sin regardless of how it manifests itself.

I never said it wasn’t a sin. But it is consensual, unlike being sexually abused. I have had premarital sex and I have been molested, guess which one wakes me up at night? Guess which one makes me stop in the middle of having sex with my spouse?

**The victims didn’t sin. **

 

[Tiber_Pilgrim]

It is unfortunate that so many people are quick to defend these people when what they did was abhorrent. Shame on all of you.

Who is defending what Duggar did? Who on this thread has claimed his actions as a minor was appropriate behavior that should be allowed?

No one Kendra. Some of just don’t feel the need to throw stones at the Duggars over a situation we know little about.

 

[Faith1960]

This news about Josh explains some things odd about the family, for example, why they wear those ridiculous getups to go swimming, even when it’s just the family, alone.
One of the parents said something about not stirring up feelings.

 

[Havard]

If you read the report, he was 13 years old at the time these incidences happened. His one sister said she thought he was just taking a blanket off of her. She didn’t realize that he deliberately touched her.

His sisters stated that in the 3 and half years following these incidents, he never touched them. The one little girl who was in the laundry room couldn’t even remember what happened. She had to be told by her sister. She thought that he was simply pointing out a hole in the seat of her jeans that she was wearing a skirt over.

He was never charged with any crime. In Arkansas the statute of limitations on molestation is 3 years after the discovery or 3 years after the victim turns 18. The magazine conveniently left out the second part.

I don’t think that we, as a society, have a right to impose mental health treatment on people someone because* we don’t think* that the treatment he received was adequate.

If there were other documented cases that didn’t rely on his perception of what he did, then I would say that someone needs to do something.

He is in his late 20’s. If this continued to occur, I think that victims will come forward.

I never presumed Josh Duggar needs or doesn’t need treatment. That would be for a mental health professional to answer. I said he should find out. If you think this is bad advice for him, well then we happen to disagree.

As for your comments about the statute of limitations and his age, there is what one should do and then there is what the law requires. Sometimes the latter doesn’t even meet the bare minimum of what one ought to do. When I post about this issue, I speak of what I think one ought to do. Not what the justice system mandates.

 

[KendraDZ1902]

Who is defending what Duggar did? Who on this thread has claimed his actions as a minor was appropriate behavior that should be allowed?

No one Kendra. Some of just don’t feel the need to throw stones at the Duggars over a situation we know little about.

People are downplaying it. Saying that his victims were asleep, they didn’t even know. Or that he was “just a child”

No. I will not downplay such acts. Ever. He doesn’t need advocates, his poor sisters do.