The Duggars Respond to Reports That Josh Duggar Was Accused of Child Molestation

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Actually, the Duggar’s media career was based on them having a large family and people’s fascination with that. The Duggar’s chose to try to use their show to evangelize. They did not get their show because they were Christians.
They may not have gotten the show due to their faith, but it’s fair to say that they’ve kept it because of their faith. They’ve proven masterful at manipulating and exploiting the prejudices and beliefs of their Evangelical fanbase.
 
I know everyone is appalled at the revelation of the older brother molesting his sisters but I actually applaud the Duggars for handling the situation as they did.

I think this happens way more than society is willing to admit. An older brother or cousin molests his younger sister. And most parents are not equipped to handle this and they just dig their heads in the sands about it-because they cannot admit their son of their nephews have done such a thing. It is very damaging to the victim. And a lot of victims never say anything because they know their parents won’t believe them. This has happened in my family and in several of my friends’ families. It is appalling but it happens a lot. I do not think family size or whether the family is Christian has anything to do with it.
:eek:You applaud them for sending their son off to some work camp instead of getting actual counseling for what he did? You applaud them for not getting counseling for their daughters that were molested? You’ve missed quite a lot of information about the “situation”, haven’t you?

There is already a thread in the World News subforum that has quotes and facts from the police reports and JimBob and Michelle- you might want to start with this post, which sums up the “situation” very well: forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=12992749&postcount=420

and this post: forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=12992740&postcount=418

They might not have “buried their heads in the sand” about it, but they most certainly mishandled it at the expense of their own daughters, the REAL victims in this sad case.
 
People keep missing the point that this has nothing to do with FOIA, it has to do with open records laws. The only thing that was released was a single redacted police report. The personal information of all juveniles was blocked out, and the current sequence of events was gleaned through simple inference.

I work with a Police Department. *Any *person at *any *time can request *any *police report, as long as they produce a fee. A juvenile’s criminal history is hidden from the public record, but individual crimes are not. Let’s take a hypothetical situation: a juvenile shoots and kills someone, and the media requests a report. The media would be presented with an incident report with all the information about the juvenile redacted. However, they would still be able to pierce together the sequence of the events from the narrative, and the non-redacted adult parties in the case.

Bottom line: you can hide information on individuals, but you can’t hide information on the crimes themselves.
Information that would lead to the identification of the minors is also supposed to be redacted. It is in some places in the report and not in others. Also, if this information invades the privacy or can lead to the identity of minor victims, this information is not supposed to be available. Also, if the information involved pertains to a sex crime, information that might lead to the identity of the victim is not supposed to be released.

Since you say you work with a police department, I hope you aren’t the one responsible for releasing information.

Numerous times on my local news channel, the reporter has said that the names of the parents have not been released because it could lead to the identity of the minor child.
 
They may not have gotten the show due to their faith, but it’s fair to say that they’ve kept it because of their faith. They’ve proven masterful at manipulating and exploiting the prejudices and beliefs of their Evangelical fanbase.
That’s your opinion. Not very Christian, but it is your opinion. Can you give examples of how they have exploited their Evangelical fan base? In the context of what you claim, it seems you are saying that they have used the Evangelical people who watch them to unfairly get something from them. Have they asked for donations or something?
 
You know, this whole obsessive quibbling over the propriety (or lack thereof) of the release of records information is bizarre. It’s way too much passion and anger directed over a trifling procedural issue, whilst the real offense lingers like the proverbial elephant in the room.

It fools nobody, and impresses nobody.
 
That’s your opinion. Not very Christian, but it is your opinion. Can you give examples of how they have exploited their Evangelical fan base? In the context of what you claim, it seems you are saying that they have used the Evangelical people who watch them to unfairly get something from them. Have they asked for donations or something?
Maybe the poster means they exploited the trust and faith of their fan base, even if unintentionally.
 
That’s your opinion. Not very Christian, but it is your opinion. Can you give examples of how they have exploited their Evangelical fan base? In the context of what you claim, it seems you are saying that they have used the Evangelical people who watch them to unfairly get something from them. Have they asked for donations or something?
Who needs mere money when you have political power and influence? I think the amount of influence they’ve been able to accumulate–chumming it up with presidential candidates, injecting themselves into political campaigns, entertwining themselves with political action committes–speaks for itself. And, as events have proven, the influence they’ve gotten, based upon self-described moral authority, has been poorly earned.
 
I know everyone is appalled at the revelation of the older brother molesting his sisters but I actually applaud the Duggars for handling the situation as they did.

I think this happens way more than society is willing to admit. An older brother or cousin molests his younger sister. And most parents are not equipped to handle this and they just dig their heads in the sands about it-because they cannot admit their son of their nephews have done such a thing. It is very damaging to the victim. And a lot of victims never say anything because they know their parents won’t believe them. This has happened in my family and in several of my friends’ families. It is appalling but it happens a lot. I do not think family size or whether the family is Christian has anything to do with it.
So it’s your position that they didn’t as well dig their heads in the sand?
 
You know, this whole obsessive quibbling over the propriety (or lack thereof) of the release of records information is bizarre. It’s way too much passion and anger directed over a trifling procedural issue, whilst the real offense lingers like the proverbial elephant in the room.

It fools nobody, and impresses nobody.
Think of the girls. By doing the math, everyone knows who they are. People will forever look at them differently. Their wounds have been made public regardless of whether they wanted that information out there. They will be treated differently by others. People will speculate and talk about them in an unpleasant way. There has already been post about them being viewed as “damaged goods” by their religious peers.

Apparently, breaking the law makes no difference as long as we get the story? Is that the way you really feel? This is what can be inferred by your statement.

Names and information that would lead to the identity of a victim of a sexual crime are not supposed to be released. This is the case, especially of victims who were minors.

The compassionate thing for these girls would have been not to not to have made this public knowledge.
 
As far as I know TLC has “pulled” the show episodes that had originally been scheduled to air the last week of May and the first week of June, but hasn’t cancelled the show completely. I suppose there is a chance it could eventually return to the air in some form much like “Jon and Kate Plus 8” eventually resurfaced as “Kate Plus 8”. Of course, on the other hand, the Jon and Kate scandal didn’t involve any criminal conduct, just a lot of rumors about infidelities.

I personally think this is for the best, at least for now. I recall that even many CAF posters who were troubled by some of the Duggar beliefs, still watched the show with the kids because they found it a family-friendly show. And while of course the show itself is still family-friendly, if they kept airing episodes many of the viewers would actually be doing so with salacious motives.

Although I’m thankful that no one on CAF has publicly speculated on who exactly the victims were (at least, not to the extent of naming names), that’s not been the case on other websites. The idea of people watching the Duggar girls on TV while speculating “hmm, I wonder if SHE was a victim” disturbs me a lot.

I know people have speculated as to exactly how much money the Duggars made from the show, but I do hope they were wise enough to save and/or invest it wisely. Even if a scandal like this hadn’t broken, most reality shows do NOT go on forever. The Dog the Bounty Hunter show survived numerous scandals, including Dog being caught making racist comments, Dog’s daughter going to jail, and even Dog himself going to jail, but eventually ended not AFAIK from any particular scandal, but just because it wasn’t pulling in the ratings anymore. (Although they still air reruns in the early AM on A+E, I don’t know if Dog is being paid any extra money for those.)
 
Apparently, breaking the law makes no difference as long as we get the story? Is that the way you really feel? This is what can be inferred by your statement.
I’ve already stated that I didn’t see any law being broken. Police reports are a matter of public record. I merely think that the amount of effort spent arguing about the reports rather than the crime it describes is disingenuous.
The compassionate thing for these girls would have been not to not to have made this public knowledge.
I’ve noticed the word “compassion” being thrown around a lot in re: this subject, and I’m unimpressed. It’s the compassion shown towards the flock for not being shorn enough, whilst ignoring the wolf dwelling silently within.
 
TLC made the decision, not the viewers.
So? Why isn’t TLC entitled to decide who they will employ and what shows they will air? TLC made the decision to pull the show (not cancel it) based on the feed back received (google 19 kids and counting backlash) and the reaction of advertisers such as General Mills, they have hedged their bet by “pulling” the show instead of cancelling it.

Any network has the right to pull or cancel a show for any reason. Why do people feel the Duggars are entitled to the TV show?
 
Who needs mere money when you have political power and influence? I think the amount of influence they’ve been able to accumulate–chumming it up with presidential candidates, injecting themselves into political campaigns, entertwining themselves with political action committes–speaks for itself. And, as events have proven, the influence they’ve gotten, based upon self-described moral authority, has been poorly earned.
You are condemning the entire family for something that one person did. I get that you don’t like the Duggars. Just say so. No one should make up stuff about them exploiting people. If you think that Josh shouldn’t have been an advocate for the family in Washington D.C… Just say so. People should just be honest.

All of the Duggars are not Josh.
 
I know everyone is appalled at the revelation of the older brother molesting his sisters but I actually applaud the Duggars for handling the situation as they did.

I think this happens way more than society is willing to admit. An older brother or cousin molests his younger sister. And most parents are not equipped to handle this and they just dig their heads in the sands about it-because they cannot admit their son of their nephews have done such a thing. It is very damaging to the victim. And a lot of victims never say anything because they know their parents won’t believe them. This has happened in my family and in several of my friends’ families. It is appalling but it happens a lot. I do not think family size or whether the family is Christian has anything to do with it.
You might want to read these posts from the large thread in World News before you start clapping your approval. You seem to be missing quite a lot of factual information from police reports and statements from JimBob and Michelle on how they handled, or more accurately mishandled, the “situation”.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=12992749&postcount=420

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=12992740&postcount=418
 
Oh, and BTW, to those who are harping on how the IN TOUCH mag “broke the law” in order to get this story, as it turns out they were NOT the first to find this out.

Here’s a very interesting People magazine article:

Online Commenter Warned About Josh Duggar Molestation Accusations 8 Years Ago
As Gawker’s Defamer points out, a commenter called “Alice” recounted the allegations on a blog, ibiblio.org, in May 2007. Other sites such as FreeJinger.org have long cited Alice’s comments.
On the subject of Josh’s parents Jim Bob, 49 and Michelle, 48, Alice wrote “They have lied and lied about their son to protect him… In my eyes he is a CHILD MOLESTOR. HE SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE HOME.”
Once again, the blogosphere had scooped the mainstream media. Unfortunately, as most such sites have a definite political or other agenda, reports on those sites tend to get overlooked.
 
I actually think it might be for the best if this topic gets merged with the one in World News. I’m saving my comments for that one.
 
As far as I know TLC has “pulled” the show episodes that had originally been scheduled to air the last week of May and the first week of June, but hasn’t cancelled the show completely. I suppose there is a chance it could eventually return to the air in some form much like “Jon and Kate Plus 8” eventually resurfaced as “Kate Plus 8”. Of course, on the other hand, the Jon and Kate scandal didn’t involve any criminal conduct, just a lot of rumors about infidelities.
They may have more trouble repackaging the Duggars after cancelling Honey Boo Boo for the molestation connection. Do TV networks care if they are perceived as hypocrites?
 
You are condemning the entire family for something that one person did. I get that you don’t like the Duggars. Just say so. No one should make up stuff about them exploiting people. If you think that Josh shouldn’t have been an advocate for the family in Washington D.C… Just say so. People should just be honest.

All of the Duggars are not Josh.
I think the exploitation charge is leveled at the parents not Josh, he was just beneficiary of it. After all how many other kids get the kind of job Josh had with only a GED?
 
It is so hard to know what to do. I know a family who sent their son to a psychiatrist for emotional problems and after their son molested his siblings they found out the psychiatrist was molesting him. The man killed himself when the police found out he was molesting his patients. So even when parents think they are doing the right thing it can turn out to be wrong.
 
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