The E.U. Is Coming for Catholics

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Monica83 said:
In fact, in the U.S., a huge majority of evangelicals who vote Republican, who are for secured borders, anti-abortion legislation(things considered “right wing fascist” I guess), are Zionists. They love ethnic and religious Jews!
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Please don’t kid yourself. They love Jews as long as they consider them as part of the plans for the end times to come. They love them as a people they can evangelize and convert. And, once converted, to play show and tell in front of their congregation and ply for money for more evangelizing projects.

The last thing they love is a well educated religious Jew that counters their evangelizing and called them on the carpet for their tactics.

George Soros is hated by the right more for his liberal ideas and wealth than for being Jewish…but, for some, that’s also a reason to hate him. The evangelicals and right wingers tend to love Jews for what they can use them for much more than because they respect and admire their Judaism faith. It’s not politically correct to be anti Semitic anymore so they leave off that part. If being anti Semitic came in fashion again, I can easily guess who’d be the first in line to condemn Jews again.

Sorry, but Jews have a long memory and distrust runs very deep. It’s been a very short blip in time where Jews are loved for just being Jewish.
 
EmilyAlexandra said:
The point is that the EU is not interested in the religious affairs of its member states.
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On Oct 25 the EU passed a resolution stating “The right to freedom of speech is not absolute,” in regards to religious freedom, and threatening further censorship
 
There are educated religious Jews on the right such as Ben Shapiro. I think he would disagree with Mr.Soros on most things. That has nothing to do with him having a Jewish bloodline(of course).

I could care less about George Soros’ ethnic background tbh. I wish he would stay out of interfering with politics/elections in foreign countries though.

I’m not evangelical but I’m pretty sure Christians of all denominations enjoy a good conversion story IF the storyteller is willing(and I’m guessing they aren’t speaking under duress. Lol) . However I’m not going out of my way to convert people of other faith. I’ll pray for them. Conservatives are not only evangelicals though-some are Catholic. What do you think political conservatives use Jewish people for? Most Jews are on the Left. There are some that are conservative. But I don’t really think there are many incentives for conservatives to be looking to “use Jews” as you put it. Like what would be in it for them?
 
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This is easy for people from wealthy countries like the US or England to say, but poorer European countries often feel they have to be a part of EU for higher economy and economic stability.
 
Why can’t the EU just be about trade and economy, instead of also imposing values onto other countries…
 
Some folk have to do stuff that they would probably rather not, for economic reasons.

Some folks put on chains, and place them on others, for ideological and power considerations.
 
Servant31 said:
Anyone have the current status of brexit?
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It seems the easiest trade deal in history is not proving quite so easy, and the no-deal Brexit with odds of millions to one against is proving to have odds in favour, and it isn’t true, as we were told, that the German car manufacturers would insist on free trade with Britain, and the oven-ready deal was half-baked, and those who said we could leave the single market and the customs union without a border either within Ireland or down the Irish Sea have been proved (as some of us here predicted) wrong.

The UK is tottering on the edge of a no-deal Brexit. Brexiteers are hoping the economic effect of Covid will mask the catastrophe this will prove for the British people.
 
GKMotley said:
Surrender any portion of your national soveriegnty to a supranational organization, live with the chains that you assumed
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Do you know, that’s exactly what I told the Scottish Parliament in 1707. And the Continental Congress, 70 years later. Took absolutely no notice. Now it’s all coming unraveled.
 
Since membership in the E.U. is voluntary, people are always free to leave it.
That said, I feel if the E.U. keeps pushing these boundaries, countries will do exactly that.
 
Caution is required.

Something like a list of constraints, limitations, guarantees. Call it …say… a bill of rights or something.
 
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GKMotley said:
Something like a list of constraints, limitations, guarantees. Call it …say… a bill of rights or something
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Like the treaties of the EU and the European Convention on Human Rights? Yep, good idea.
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Only under the protection of an analog of the never passed Bricker Amendment.
 
Guess it only recognizes some human rights though…and that’s not good enough! And it’s why countries should not participate in EU. All individual countries should be able to determine their own legislation based on the wants and needs of their populace.
 
phil3 said:
This is what happens when you create a strong unelected group with all authority and no responseability for their action

Remember the CCC’s only limits on government is that it can not be draconian.
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Unelected? Every member nation of the EU votes in members of the European Parliament, as far as I am aware. Just like they do their own national legislatiures. In any case member nations do not become so contrary to the will of their own peoples.
 
mercyalways said:
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EmilyAlexandra:
The point is that the EU is not interested in the religious affairs of its member states.
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On Oct 25 the EU passed a resolution stating “The right to freedom of speech is not absolute,” in regards to religious freedom, and threatening further censorship
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So it isn’t. Those religions that practice or allow polygamy, such as the LDS and Muslims, are not allowed to legally follow those particular religious practices in the “land of the free” US. Nor are pagan religions that practice animal sacrifice (they would be prosecuted for animal cruelty no doubt). Nor are those religions (I think Jehovah’s Witnesses?) that don’t believe in blood transfusions.
 
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