The Erasure of Women Continues

[esieffe]

since we are running out of space, you don’t mind bunking up with the pine trees do ya?

 

[HarryStotle]

It is not about the destruction of women. Women are not being destroyed. Another term for the destruction of women—the actual destruction of women—is femicide.

Yeah, women are being destroyed in sports to begin with.

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If the definition of “woman” is essentially left empty such that any man, even one completely devoid of any female genetics or parts can claim to be a woman, then the definition of “woman” is null and meaningless.

If a man can essentially “choose” to be a woman, there is no significant meaning to being “a woman.” Hopefully, women – the real kind – will stand up and not permit this to be done to them. Where are the feminists when they are really needed?

 

[MagdalenaRita]

If a man can essentially “choose” to be a woman, there is no significant meaning to being “a woman.” Hopefully, women – the real kind – will stand up and not permit this to be done to them. Where are the feminists when they are really needed?

A good portion of this is a result of feminism. Actually there is a disappearing of both genders.

 

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

If a man can essentially “choose” to be a woman, there is no significant meaning to being “a woman.” Hopefully, women – the real kind – will stand up and not permit this to be done to them. Where are the feminists when they are really needed?

A good portion of this is a result of feminism. Actually there is a disappearing of both genders.

A necessary aspect of the “disappearing” of rationality.

 

[dochawk]

Today I identify as an oak tree. Stop the bigotry against oak trees! Lol.

I shall respect your oaktreeism with first my chain saw, and then a table saw.

I need new cabinets . . .

:crazy_face:

hawk

 

[7_Sorrows]

MamaJewel:

“Menstruation, pregnancy, childbirth, and breastfeeding belong exclusively to women.”

Well, maybe not the breastfeeding.

Men have embryonic mammals glands only.

It is extremely rare that a father can produce milk for a child and maybe ofteh related to hormonal imbalance. Not sure that a newborn can survive only a man’s milk.

That is what I was going to say. Men have nipples and men can get breast cancer,
but do they lactate?

 

[JoeFreedom]

Tree murder! That was my oak wife!

 

[dochawk]

arboreal polygamist!

Did your pine and maple wives even know about your oak wife?

:crazy_face:

 

[JoeFreedom]

Hey maple trees got the sweet syrup… mmm so sweet.

 

[dochawk]

Oh, go ahead and turn the topic to pancakes . . .

 

[Peeps]

I wish I could identify as a really fabulously wealthy filthy rich person, man or woman.

 

[1cthlctrth]

Notice the silence by “women’s rights” groups, like regarding men participating in women’s sports. Makes you wonder if these groups are pro-woman in any way.

 

[Sarcelle]

Another term for the destruction of women—the actual destruction of women—is femicide.

You can see examples of these in India and China, although I hear it’s lessening in China.

In India it still continues unabated in spite of government efforts.

It’s ironic that ever since abortion has become widespread, the chief victims of it are women and a lot of women still continue to regard abortion as a civil right.

 

[Annie]

Women are not being destroyed.

Women as individual persons are not being physically destroyed, but the idea of woman is being destroyed. What does it mean to actually–by which I mean biologically–be a woman if any man can simply declare himself a woman? Woman means nothing when it does not describe anything in particular.

If a woman of European extraction were to wear the traditional clothing of an non-European culture in the West, she would be accused of cultural appropriation. Her act would be met with heavy disapprobation.

But a man can call himself a woman and that’s ok.

The latter has the potential for causing a great deal more harm than the former, bit it’s the former we get upset about. Go figure.

 

[LilyM]

Anicette:

MamaJewel:

“Menstruation, pregnancy, childbirth, and breastfeeding belong exclusively to women.”

Well, maybe not the breastfeeding.

Men have embryonic mammals glands only.

It is extremely rare that a father can produce milk for a child and maybe ofteh related to hormonal imbalance. Not sure that a newborn can survive only a man’s milk.

That is what I was going to say. Men have nipples and men can get breast cancer,
but do they lactate?

I cannot choose not to be female, true, but I can choose to buy into (largely socially constructed) stereotypes of femininity in terms of what professions are.suitably “feminine”, how.women are supposed.to dress and speak and behave and so on.

In some ways I don’t, as female saints such as Joan of Arc and Catherine of Siena didn’t. I refuse to suffer the modern equivalent of burning at the stake for not following mere social conventions of femininity as Joan was burnt.

 

[Annie]

Stereotypes of femininity in terms of what professions are.suitably “feminine”, how.women are supposed.to dress and speak and behave and so on.

How much of a problem is this nowadays? Do people realize what women and members of minorities went through to break down barriers which have now been down for decades?

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

Also, a large percentage of adolescent-onset gender dysphorics are female.

What is happening to so many girls that made them hate their bodies so much?

 

[Londoner]

For a more balanced view I really would recommend anyone who has not already done so to read Jan Morris’s autobiography Conundrum. Jan Morris was born James Morris, a sometime cathedral chorister, an Oxford-trained historian, World War 2 veteran, and war reporter who climbed Everest with Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay, married, and was the father of five children. James Morris also experienced the lifelong belief that he ought to have been a woman. In Conundrum, Jan Morris describes with superlative eloquence her genuine and intense conviction that her body never matched her gender identity. She also describes the long and difficult process by which she eventually underwent what was then simply called a sex-change, undergoing a relatively new procedure performed by the pioneering gynaecologist Georges Burou in Casablanca. Despite a divorce obtained merely to conform with UK law at the time, Jan remains married (as a civil partner) to her wife of 70 years and is still “Dad” to her four surviving children. Nobody who has read Jan Morris’s books or heard her talking about her extraordinary life could say with any justification that she has in any way “destroyed the idea of woman”, nor that what she underwent in 1972 was a mere “appropriation” of female identity. I think that if more people took the trouble to read books like Conundrum there would be a lot more understanding of this subject.

 

[Annie]

One person doing one thing won’t have much of an effect. Activists attempting and succeeding in imposing their own wishes on society will.

I am all for not treating people badly, but at the same time I think transgender people should not be treated badly, I also think that women and girls–biological women and girls–should also not be treated badly.

 

[Peeps]

I think that if more people took the trouble to read books like Conundrum there would be a lot more understanding of this subject.

I honestly don’t think the majority of young people who are unhappy with their God-given sex truly have anything in common with Jan Morris.

All children growing up have to go through a period in their lives when they come to terms with being a separate individual from their parents, and most teenagers go through some kind of “rebellion” This is normal. The hormones and body are changing rapidly, and the teen is trying to cope with this, and for some teens, the transition from “child” to “adult” is very very tough to handle.

This rebellion is frustrating to the parents, but relatively harmless. They get strange haircuts, wear certain articles of clothing, makeup, or jewelry, stay out past curfew, listen to the latest music (usually loud!), stay in their rooms with the door shut for hours, skip school, sleep all day and stay up all night, and refuse to obey parents.

These actions are annoying to parents, but usually don’t cause any permanent harm to their child, other than possibly delaying graduation from high school to make up lost school.

But some teens rebel in ways that are dangerous–drugs, alcohol, smoking, shoplifting, dangerous driving practices, piercings and other body mutilations, unprotected sex, occult practices, running away from home, etc.

I think that’s what these “gender” acts are–a potentially dangerous way to go through the “teen rebellion”.

I think a lot of children and teens go through a time when they are uncertain of their sexuality. Nowadays, some kids choose “gender dysphoria” as a way to express their frustration and terror over “growing up,” rather than some of the more traditional ways of handling the rebellious teen years.

The thing to keep in mind is that no lasting harm will come of a boy growing his hair long and wearing makeup or a dress, or a girl cutting her hair very short and wearing male clothing.

The HARM occurs when adults encourage the teen to get medical treatment (homones, surgery, etc.) to complete the sex change to their desired sex. This is unconscionable for intelligent adults.

What they SHOULD do is be loving and supportive (and cry and pray a lot in private!) and tell the teen that they are free to continue to explore their gender options but should wait until they are of age and mature in all respects before they make any decisions that will be permanent.

Quite often, when teens are given the freedom to do something “rebellious”, the desire to do that action goes away. It’s the freedom that they are looking for, not the actual action. They want to know that their parents, the ones who have loved them all their lives, will accept that they are now adults, not children, and will be leaving them soon to live an adult life.


I hope this is helpful.