The Erasure of Women Continues

[melonhead]

Apparently modern garbage culture opposes it.

 

[BlueMantle]

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[Edmundus1581]

I have actually been motivated by this complete abandonment of traditional and ancient concepts of justice to reread Plato’s Republic taking scrupulous notes. The contrast between Plato’s sensible rationality and the modern world is breathtaking.

You are correct that the modern Church appears to have been beclouded by modernist emotional appeals to empathy and the “poor,” meaning those ostensibly “unequal” according to modern social justice definitions of equality of outcome. Worthiness or unworthiness, or the concept of merit, is no longer in consideration.

It is interesting how Plato treats the idea of justice as rendering to each what is owed to them, by focusing on how what is owed is to be determined rather than just assumed.

Thanks for the insightful response, and the tip to go back to Plato!

You have a rare ability to express complex thoughts in a few words! That’s several times now and I’ve found it most worthwhile following it through. (The “rights of the strong” was what first caught my attention).

If I can sum up a summary…

by focusing on how what is owed is to be determined rather than just assumed.

Meanwhile, back to the topic, I expect much print space and sectarian fighting will be spent on this insolvable contradiction between the rights of two favoured “weak” groups, until one just imposes itself on the other. There’s too much money at stake here for either side to back down. It’s telling, and not at all surprising, that men are being blamed for this problem, and the article even calls for men to step up to deal with it. (Forget that! ).

 

[Neithan]

It’s telling, and not at all surprising, that men are being blamed for this contradiction, and the article even called for men to “step up” to deal with it. (Forget that! ).

Where does it say that?

I think it’s up to men to “step up” to other men; and it’s up to women to “step up” to other women when there is malicious intent. Until feminists realize the damage that their cultivated ideology has done, and is continuing to do, they are only going to continue to build their helpless rage at men with no solution in sight.

Does anyone really think “The Patriarchy” has created this “trans-insanity”?

 

[Anicette]

That is what I was going to say. Men have nipples and men can get breast cancer,
but do they lactate?

I don’t think that rare cases can make us said that men can really “lactate”.

But more importantly, I would call it against the God’s design on human’s nature, male and female.

 

[Edmundus1581]

Edmundus1581:

It’s telling, and not at all surprising, that men are being blamed for this contradiction, and the article even called for men to “step up” to deal with it. (Forget that! ).

Where does it say that?

Good catch! After posting I went back to check my “quote” and realised it wasn’t accurate, so removed the quotation marks (as you can see).

My quote was based on my recollection of this from the article:

No man worth his salt could ever call another man “she” or “her” and regard him as female.

And this from the comments, by the author herself.

So no, it isn’t all men’s fault. But we do need manly men now to refuse to go along with this madness. Women and children need the gifts of masculinity more than ever.

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Does anyone really think “The Patriarchy” has created this “trans-insanity”?

Yes, they do, and this is an early warning of how it’s likely to be portrayed as the battle intensifies. It could never have been feminism which brought this onto women!

There’s this in the comments:

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[LilyM]

Stil is … here in Australia there was very divided opinion about a recent ad for.female sanitary products that showed actual blood.instead of.the old.blue .liquid (as if menstrual blood is somehow dirtier than the blood that is regularly shown in fight scenes or.tv hospital shows?)

 

[Neithan]

Well, I didn’t see that, but, I guess I’m not surprised. Look how they double down on their helplessness.

At least the author understands the root cause.

Still, it’s not entirely up to men to fix this mess.

 

[Lea101]

I believe overall it would be males.

Would make more sense, as parents of young girls who display boyish behaviours are less likely to make it a big deal as well. Boys who are girly tend to be treated worse, and you’ll have parents thinking that ‘they must be trans’. And on a societal level, feminine boys aren’t as accepted which would probably add onto their dysphoria.

It’s heartbreaking. I don’t think we know much about the female side, besides high amounts of androgens and your hypothesis, that there’s an issue with femininity may not be far off.

Does anyone really think “The Patriarchy” has created this “trans-insanity”?

Traditional feminists are actually against the gender ideology. Unfortunately they are now called TERFs, and your typical liberal woman are afraid of that term so they adopt the even more warped ideology of modern day feminism.

 

[EndTimes]

Legislated Hate Crimes Spread…

Guilty?

Fine$ and Jail Time for saying or doing whatever They deem is Hate?

Shall the real Haters please stand up and Identify yourself?

 

[blackforest]

Traditional feminists are actually against the gender ideology.

I’m not debating you, but I’m curious if you have any links or reading recommendations. It’s just a topic I’m interested in exploring. I find it baffling that the same society that tells us it’s wrong to appropriate other cultures and ethnicities has no problem with men appropriating my sex and gender.

 

[Neithan]

On that note… “feminist’s trans talk sparks uproar”

The progressive culture warriors are turning on each other.

 

[Lea101]

I’m not really into feminist literature so I can’t recommend books, but you can look up the second wave feminist movements. I believe Janice Raymond wrote a book criticising transwomen but I’ve never read it. There was growing acceptance of the gender ideology in the 3rd movement.

I guess one can ‘predict’ that transition, because they were tired of people reducing women to their biological functions at that time, and intersectionality became popular.

 

[MamaJewel]

What is happening to so many girls that made them hate their bodies so much ?

It’s having the the definition of “the perfect body” at the touch of a screen and the marketing concept in today’s society that an individual is their own “brand”. Looking back, it seems to me that the advent of film and television resulted in greater numbers of females finding fault with and disliking their bodies. Porn and celebrity lifestyle-reality shows don’t help either.

I heard Kim Kardashian say that she and Kanye did 8 months of planning for their recent photo shoot. While I have a “to each their own” kind of philosophy, I’m glad that I’m not hounded by the paparazzi and need to extensively plan for a photoshoot to maintain my “brand”.

 

[MamaJewel]

I guess one can ‘predict’ that transition, because they were tired of people reducing women to their biological functions at that time, and intersectionality became popular.

This does ring true.
Advances in medicine that extended lifespans for children, men, and women en masse are very recent by human standards.
Fertility and motherhood were very important for the continuation of society and humanity in general. Until recently, women died at younger ages than men, often as a result from pregnancy, childbirth, and post-partum conditions.
It was natural for the focus to be on women in the domestic realm because that is where females spent the majority of their life’s energies.

Once women began living longer, the ratio of their fertile years to their total lifespan decreased. Since women were experiencing other stages of life outside of fertility, pregnancy, and marriage for longer periods of their lives, they insisted that a focus on the roles of women in society needed to change.

It wasn’t fair to pigeon-hole women into the role of baby factory if she was going to have fewer children than her predecessors and out-live her husband by a decade or more.

The progressive culture warriors are turning on each other.

Oh, they have always done this. However, we have multiple streams of social media to blast the truth of the division throughout the world.

 

[Bruised_Reed]

Not really. No one likes TERFs except other TERFs. They are the radical feminists who hate men including natal males, hence transwomen.

 

[Annie]

What? Maybe these TERFs are just not thrilled to have their very sex appropriated?

 

[Bruised_Reed]

No. TERFs have no need for men.

These are quotes from CAF posters that describe radical feminism (but usually as though it is the only kind of feminism, which is incorrect.)

The radical feminists believe men are bad by defintion, saying things like all sex (with men) is rape. Their kind of like misogynists in reverse, except the misogynists (for the most part) just take it for granted that women are inferior. The radical feminists are angry, they think men (as a group) should pay for what we’ve done.
The most radical advocate reducing the male population to more manageable levels.

The radical feminists wanted two things. Power. “I, the woman, am in charge of you, the man.” Friendship, then trust, then love and romance, and perhaps, marriage? Who needs it? If I spot a guy I like, I’ll just have sex with him that means nothing except satisfying myself.

The second thing was Money. They said: You are in control and you must make as much, if not more, money as the male you choose to keep in your company.

I recently read a comment published in a major Detroit newspaper from the leader of a Michigan based Women’s Business Association. She basically said that after all these years, she was disappointed that women were not in charge of most businesses.

Sex if you feel like it, like going to the bathroom. Power by displacing men as the head of the business or the family. And money so you can indulge yourself, and have the power to kick him out of your married life.

Within radical feminism however, there’s this female supremacy being promoted. What do I mean? Before, the feminist slogan was “Women can do everything a man can do.” Now, it’s “We are the superior species, we don’t need you wastes of space.” The only people I’ve seen react to this with the proper outrage are men’s rights activists.

 

[Annie]

You seem to be saying all TERFs are radical feminists, and all radical feminists are TERFs. Is that what you want to say?

 

[Bruised_Reed]

You seem to be saying all TERFs are radical feminists,

Yes.

and all radical feminists are TERFs. Is that what you want to say?

No, just that radical feminists seem to hate all men and how every one views transgender persons I don’t know.