The Eucharist is NOT the body of Christ

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ajk19 said:
I don’t think so, as I have said I feel like I am in the right here, and nothing that anyone says is going to change my mind.
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Ok, then what is your point in coming here if you don’t want to learn? Just bash other peoples beliefs? Pick a fight?
 
mommyof4 said:
Ok, then what is your point in coming here if you don’t want to learn? Just bash other peoples beliefs? Pick a fight?
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In this case, I was trying to state my case as to why the Eucharist isn’t the Body of Christ as I have already mentioned. There is nothing for me to learn here, what I have learned already was enough for me to leave the church.
 
Why do ex-Catholics, who are only ex-Catholics because they never cared to bother to learn what it is the Church actually teaches, have to spend all their time bashing Catholics…and ex-Protestants are only interested in spending their time worshiping God and getting closer to Him?

Could it be because the ex-Catholics turned their back on the Truth, and now cannot feel any sense of happiness unless they are trying to convince themselves they made the right choice? While the ex-Protestants have found the Truth and can now fully worship and glorify God…they have no need to bash their former faith as they are now more Christ like and loving of others? Thats my opinion on things. I mean, where’s all the ex-Protestants(myself included) trying to bash their former beliefs? Why are we so content with our new faith that we have no need to question our former one? Hmmm
 
ajk19 said:
In this case, I was trying to state my case as to why the Eucharist isn’t the Body of Christ as I have already mentioned.
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Well, you haven’t made a good one. Sorry. I don’t think you’re going to convince anyone here.
 
1Co 11:27 Therefore, whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord.
1Co 11:28 But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread and drink of the chalice.
1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.
1Co 11:30 Therefore are there many infirm and weak among you: and many sleep.
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How does one incur judgement if he eats and drinks a symbol? These verses prove the Real Presence of the Eucharist.
 
ajk19 said:
I don’t think so, as I have said I feel like I am in the right here, and nothing that anyone says is going to change my mind.
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Too bad your words contradict the scripture. Spirit and truth in no way means it is not literal or that it is analogy or that it is a figure of speech or anything like that. God is truth and He is spirit as well. That does not mean He is a figure of speech.
 
Dauphin said:
The Sacrifice of the Mass IS the Sacrifice of the Cross. It is the same Body and Blood which Christ offered for us on the Cross.

Nothing is repeated, only presented.
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So then Christ never left the cross? Is that what you are saying?
 
ajk19 said:
How can that be, if there was only to be one sacrifice to begin with? That doesn’t make sense at all.
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It can be because Jesus is true God as well as true man. He is unchanging, eternal, and his sacrifice to the Father is also eternal. What happened on Calvary was the human, bloody, time-bound aspect of his sacrifice, but being God his sacrifice goes beyond human, beyond time. He is forever our high priest in heaven, and a high priest must have something to offer, and he offers forever his sacrifice to the Father.

At each and every Mass, many thousands of times each day, we join with and make present again that one eternal sacrifice. Christ allows each of us to be present at the foot of Calvary as often as we desire. This thing that you ignorantly deny is in fact a gift beyond imagining.

I thought you said you used to be a Catholic. How can you possibly not know this stuff? It’s like claiming to be a Christian and not knowing that Christ is God.
 
ajk19 said:
How can that be, if there was only to be one sacrifice to begin with? That doesn’t make sense at all.
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Because at Mass, we are mystically transported to our Lord’s crucifixion at Calvary. Yep, you read that right, at Mass we are AT Calvary at THE crucifixion of our blessed Lord. You see, Jesus is God and God is not bound by time. At Mass we take part in a miracle, but you wouldn’t know that merely from looking at it, just as you wouldn’t think anything special about a kid being born in a manger. 😉

Holy Mass is also known by another term:

***The marriage supper of the lamb. ***

By the way, I’m a former Protestant and the argument you’re using shows that you should research this in more depth. God bless you!

Johnny

PS: Protestants will often “plead the blood of Jesus”.
Well, we Catholics do that as well, and we do that literally. 😃
 
ajk19 said:
Nope, and I have no desire to either. I stand on my beliefs.
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So you stand in ignorance. You are unwilling to learn. You aren’t going to convince us that we are wrong if you are unwilling to even put yourself out on the line to possibly learn what we believe.
 
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