The Fear of Hell

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Sometimes we hear unbelievers say they cannot respect the idea of a God who would prepare for us a place of everlasting suffering. Such a God is petty and vindictive. How would you answer this critique of the Christian hell? :confused:
 
Sometimes we hear unbelievers say they cannot respect the idea of a God who would prepare for us a place of everlasting suffering. Such a God is petty and vindictive. How would you answer this critique of the Christian hell? :confused:
By saying that it doesn’t exist.
 
Sometimes we hear unbelievers say they cannot respect the idea of a God who would prepare for us a place of everlasting suffering. Such a God is petty and vindictive. How would you answer this critique of the Christian hell? :confused:
I imagine your question arises from
frustration at being unable to communicate that
Love = Beauty = Goodness = Truth = Life = Existence = God, and that
to turn away can only bring misery to a person,
to those who cannot or will not connect with transcendent Reality.

I don’t believe I can argue against what are hard-held beliefs;
so, suppose I might attempt an answer through a confession of what it means to me.

God is Love, in Himself and in relation to creation.
Everything is good. However, this does not negate another fundamental truth which is that I am wicked.
This makes sense once Genesis is understood.
The reality of hell, then becomes that which I renounce in my journey to God. Some people do not, apparently.
Its emptiness and squalor are shed as one grows in overwhelming beauty and life that forms the Way, which does involve sacrifice btw, that is Christ Himself.

Where the fullness of God exceeds all time and all space (the realities of which our minds cannot comprehend),
I think it rather odd if someone does not experience fear,
confronted with the power and depth of His love and compassion.

Appreciating the glory that is God, any sense of His being “petty and vindictive” turns into an experience of personal shame.
Shame at the thought and in the recognition of the person one has made of oneself.
 
Sometimes we hear unbelievers say they cannot respect the idea of a God who would prepare for us a place of everlasting suffering. Such a God is petty and vindictive. How would you answer this critique of the Christian hell? :confused:
Our LORD never said that Hell was created for human life, but rather, “the devil and his angels.”

Human beings just end up following them there.

ICXC NIKA
 
Our LORD never said that Hell was created for human life, but rather, “the devil and his angels.”

Human beings just end up following them there.

ICXC NIKA
I’m so using this explanation from now on! 👍
 
Sometimes we hear unbelievers say they cannot respect the idea of a God who would prepare for us a place of everlasting suffering. Such a God is petty and vindictive. How would you answer this critique of the Christian hell? :confused:
By saying that it doesn’t exist.
Please don’t change the subject. Thank you. 🤷
Perhaps you misunderstood. What doesn’t exist? The response suggests that a petty and vindictive God who would prepare for us a place of everlasting suffering does not exist. From this, one could begin to formulate a Catholic response to the question.
 
Perhaps you misunderstood. What doesn’t exist? The response suggests that a petty and vindictive God who would prepare for us a place of everlasting suffering does not exist. From this, one could begin to formulate a Catholic response to the question.
My response was meant to mean almost exactly that…God is not vindictive, and that hell is a creation of those who believe in such a God.
The second part may be problematic for some.

John
 
Hell was only prepared for the devil and its angels who sinned seriously (mortal sin) and did not want Heaven with God as Lord and so rebelled against Heaven and God.
We who are tainted by original sin and the result not only of our first parents, but the devil who tempted them to mortal sin, are at the same time choosing Hell if and when we choose and effect serious sin (i.e. mortal sin). Mortal sin is not only grave matter, but at the same time, we must know it is grave matter and in complete freedom and free will choose and effect it nonetheless.
 
I tell people He doesn’t send them there, they choose it. God loves us and gives an invitation to accept his offer of love. Many don’t accept the offer. On judgement day, Jesus acknowledges their decision and allows them to be separated from Him.

IOW- They tell Jesus “I don’t want you in my life” and Jesus says “ok”.

Not difficult and not cruel.
 
Sometimes we hear unbelievers say they cannot respect the idea of a God who would prepare for us a place of everlasting suffering. Such a God is petty and vindictive. How would you answer this critique of the Christian hell? :confused:
First, I would suggest that there is no such thing as a “Christian” hell. 😃

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James
 
II think it rather odd if someone does not experience fear,
confronted with the power and depth of His love and compassion.

Appreciating the glory that is God, any sense of His being “petty and vindictive” turns into an experience of personal shame.
Shame at the thought and in the recognition of the person one has made of oneself.
The fear of losing God by our own thoughts and acts can really fuel the love of God, much as a husband and wife will love each other all the more when they fear the loss of each other.
 
My response was meant to mean almost exactly that…God is not vindictive, and that hell is a creation of those who believe in such a God.
The second part may be problematic for some.

John
👍 Agreed. For someone to call God “petty and vindictive” is giving God human-like traits. God is the creator of the universe, not some superhero in the sky being petty or vindictive toward people.
 
If God is infinitely good, He must have an infinite hatred of evil. Hence Hell.

‘The works of God are perfect, and all his ways are judgements: God is faithful and without any iniquity, he is just and right.’ (Deuteronomy 32:4)

Hell does not need to be reconciled with God’s love; God has already revealed its existence. We need to trust in God, Who is Truth, Love, Wisdom and Justice. The Saints did, and in reward for their faith, God revealed Himself to them most intimately; and the better they knew Him, the more they loved Him. Many of them were willing to suffer the pains of Hell rather than offend God. Who, then, is deceived: the Saints, or those who refuse to believe in Hell?

Here are some quotes that I have found to be very compelling:

St. Gregory the Great: “The wicked only put an end to sinning because their life came to an end: they would indeed have wished to live forever, that they might continue in sin forever for they desire rather to sin than to live.”

Our Lady to St. Bridget: 'Therefore, they shall be tormented for all eternity because of their constant intention of sinning, and my Son, who sees the heart, counts that as a deed. For they would fulfil their will with deeds if my Son tolerated or allowed it.”

“O my Jesus, forgive us our sins; save us from the fires of Hell; lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of Thy mercy!”
 
Whenever someone asks this overused and recycled question “If God is loving why would he send people to hell?” or assert that they dont believe in a hell because an all loving God would never send people there, i always answer with this: What if i *wanted *to go to hell? If i wanted to go to hell but God was too loving to send me there or did not create one because he was too “just”, then he would be unjust, because i want to go (not that i actually want to) but the point is made. So ergo, there is a hell or at least the possibility for one becomes open.
 
I think of it like this: Say you are a Judge and you have a child. As that child grows you are loving, kind, forgiving and teach that child right from wrong. You do everything you can to help that child lead a healthy, moral and responsible life, but inspite of your best efforts they rebel. They lie, and you forgive them, they cheat, and you forgive them, they continue on in life committing worse and worse crimes. They even turn their back on you, cutting off all ties. They have nothing but disdain for you. Finally they are a fully fledged adult and they are a thief, a rapist and a murderer. They are brought to your courtroom and it is found that they are unquestionable guilty of all charges. You are their judge and you still love them. What do you do? And whose fault is it that your child is in this situation, yours or theirs?
 
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