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Peter_J
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Are you worried that, if Trump doesn’t win the GOP nomination, his supporters will make sure that Clinton wins the general?
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Peter_J
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But there’s still time to stop it, if moderates can get behind Cruz.
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dmar198
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That seems reasonable enough. There is another side to that, though. If you consider it from the principle of double effect, creating a third party has positive effects and negative effects. A positive effect is that it gives some people a candidate who they really like. A negative effect is that it splits the vote that could put the lesser evil in office.
In this particular case, with Trump and Hillary being so similar, we might finally have a case where the positive effect outweighs the negative effect.
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GEddie
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TaurusRex
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Don’t know much about politics nor war for that matter except I’ve heard the expressions:
“divide and conquer” and “united we stand, divided we fall”;
So I can’t blame Trump if he goes it alone if the GOP conservatives give the nomination to someone they prefer;
But however, your guess is as good as mine at the conclusion.
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Darryl1958
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This comes under the “Hype and Change”, and “Let’s Make America Great Again!” rah-rah flag waving.
‘Celebrating immigration’ means working out an immigration policy that is enforceable, that allows the people that will aid America in, and protects America from the people who will harm America access to America, or it means nothing at all.
The identity politics of the Democratic party must be rejected.
One Democratic party is enough.
It is useful to link the terms bigotry with affirmative action. It is the bigotry of low expectations that has led to affirmative action in the first place.
Affirmative action is not a conservative value.
Freedom is what makes America America.
Trump is an authoritarian at heart, as is the left in America.
This is the raison d’etre for the Tea Party movement, of which Trump, or the left, has never been a part of.
Kudos. This is all Trump values. It is his platform, and his platform alone.
Economic isolationism has always been a big part of American politics in general.
I don’t think that Americans have yet come to terms with structuring a health care system that is both universal to all, and affordable. Americans as a whole have been more than wiling to fault Obama for Obamacare, but nobody else has been able to come up with an alternative that meets both of these conditions.
Otherwise Obamacare would have been a winnable issue for either side.
Suffice it so say, Trump is a bully. Eminent domain has never been meant as a way for a private company to stomp out a private individual.
Crony capitalism at its worst…
What does that even mean?
Equal rights is a euphemism when it compares different things and demands that people regard different as the same.
Tea party values again.
Nothing wrong with that.
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Used2beSherryG
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I think you are missing the big picture here…This election cycle is unlike any other in that the common person is voting no confidence in DC politics and nothing more. The message to our politicians is “we are sick of the status quo and won’t accept it going forward”. It’s not about a particular party or a particular candidate being so irresistible. voting for Trump or even Sanders is about the will of the people to regain control of Washington politics and get the message to all those sitting congressmen and women that we, the people are the government, not the special interest groups and the lobbyists. We, the people, are taking back what was always ours to begin with. We are clearing the decks, in a sense. I am a true conservative and have seen that both parties are nothing more than a show, pandering for votes. When the smoke clears, they go right back to making their own backroom deals and thwarting the will of the people at every turn. I am an American first and foremost and what has been going on in DC has to stop. Trump is the perfect vehicle for it. He cannot be bought.
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Peter_J
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I have to think that even a lot of the plague-on-both-your-house crowd can’t be happy with the way things are now going.
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Peter_J
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The current situation goes to show that there’s a reason that the saying is “a plague on both your houses” and not “If the Republican Party falls apart now that will send a strong message to the Democratic Party tomorrow.”
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mary_bobo
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I suppose it depends on how you interpret her decades of political information. True, she has been on the fringes of power for decades, she has told us how she has fought for us, but no one has yet said just what she accomplished. Being appointed SoS is not an achievement. Running campaigns is not an achievement. What has she, herself, accomplished other than Bengazi, which many liberals don’t seem to care about, Travelgate, where many people lost their jobs; proposing candidates for AG who had to withdraw and finally getting Janet Reno (she of Waco fame); suggesting Lani Guanier to head the Rivil Rights Commission who had to withdraw when her radical views became public knowledge. Bill allowed Hillary to recommend Craig Livingstone for the position of Director of White House security. Improper access to about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies was the result. And let’s not forget how the women who accused Bill of sexual harassment were treated. And the Whitewater documents that she refused to release. And let’s not forget the $200,000 of furniture and artwork that she took from the White House when she left. She had to send it back.
Yes, indeed, this is a woman to be admired.
I ask, as I have asked before, what has she accomplished?
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GEddie
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Zip, beyond being carnal with a national leader.
She and Trump are equally unqualified for the high position they seek.
Methinks it is not just the GOP (although it is on the ropes) but the system that is broken.
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777rak
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Very true. I rather have him than Clinton.
On a personal/moral level I do not like his character however who knows maybe he can change. He is not a politician, self funding his campaign. I am sort of tired of seeing politicians come into office over and over again.
He might/had history of being for abortion but now he is changed. Not to mention two pro- life people have endorsed him Palin and Carson.
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Peter_J
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HRC has one thread already. Isn’t that enough?
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mary_bobo
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Agree.
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Little_Sheep
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I feel like I’ve answered this question so many times. It’s clearly rhetorical. You could Google “what has Hillary accomplished” and be flooded with answers, but if you don’t like Hillary, you won’t accept these answers. Again, I have no problem with people disliking her policies, but to act like she hasn’t accomplished many many things just doesn’t hold any intellectual weight. It weakens arguments against her.I suppose it depends on how you interpret her decades of political information. True, she has been on the fringes of power for decades, she has told us how she has fought for us, but no one has yet said just what she accomplished. Being appointed SoS is not an achievement. Running campaigns is not an achievement. What has she, herself, accomplished other than Bengazi, which many liberals don’t seem to care about, Travelgate, where many people lost their jobs; proposing candidates for AG who had to withdraw and finally getting Janet Reno (she of Waco fame); suggesting Lani Guanier to head the Rivil Rights Commission who had to withdraw when her radical views became public knowledge. Bill allowed Hillary to recommend Craig Livingstone for the position of Director of White House security. Improper access to about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies was the result. And let’s not forget how the women who accused Bill of sexual harassment were treated. And the Whitewater documents that she refused to release. And let’s not forget the $200,000 of furniture and artwork that she took from the White House when she left. She had to send it back.
Yes, indeed, this is a woman to be admired.
I ask, as I have asked before, what has she accomplished?
Okay, here’s one off the top of my head. She has done so much for children and families - from her lifelong work with the children’s defense fund to her key role in expanding health care and family leave for our military families. Most people on both sides of the aisle should be able to admit that these are two very very good things. Unfortunately, my experience has been that when you point these things out to people committed to hating HRC at all costs, all you will hear is “What rubbish - she’s a baby killer!!!”
I’ll wait…
meltzerboy
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“Beyond being carnal with a national leader”? Surely there must be a better and somewhat more delicate way of phrasing this, such as being married to the POTUS. But I do appreciate the Shakespearean tone of the writing.
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Little_Sheep
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LOL! Indeed.
As of this morning, I feel like the 3rd Party option might be fading away. Romney’s tepid endorsement of Cruz made me feel like the Republican’s real Hail Mary is going to be to back Cruz. But still, I haven’t had a chance to look into what Erik Erickson is saying - he has a been where I have gotten most of my information regarding the 3rd Party Play.
meltzerboy
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You left out the Hillarycare fiasco. (Just trying to be of some help.)I suppose it depends on how you interpret her decades of political information. True, she has been on the fringes of power for decades, she has told us how she has fought for us, but no one has yet said just what she accomplished. Being appointed SoS is not an achievement. Running campaigns is not an achievement. What has she, herself, accomplished other than Bengazi, which many liberals don’t seem to care about, Travelgate, where many people lost their jobs; proposing candidates for AG who had to withdraw and finally getting Janet Reno (she of Waco fame); suggesting Lani Guanier to head the Rivil Rights Commission who had to withdraw when her radical views became public knowledge. Bill allowed Hillary to recommend Craig Livingstone for the position of Director of White House security. Improper access to about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies was the result. And let’s not forget how the women who accused Bill of sexual harassment were treated. And the Whitewater documents that she refused to release. And let’s not forget the $200,000 of furniture and artwork that she took from the White House when she left. She had to send it back.
Yes, indeed, this is a woman to be admired.
I ask, as I have asked before, what has she accomplished?
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Robert_Bay
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mary_bobo
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Thanks. I forgot that one. Also forgot the one about ducking from enemy fire when it did not happen. The worst one was lying to the families of the four Americans killed in Ben Ghazi. And then calling them liars. Despicable.
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