The idea that everything is set up just right for life on earth

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rossum said:
Your philosophy differs from mine. I suspect we will not resolve the question here.

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You don’t have a philosophy. You have a religion that is bereft of philosophy. You accept scriptures that come from God knows where, and by your own witness in other threads you don’t believe the gods matter anyway.

You are a mystic. Not that I oppose mystics. I just oppose mystics who have no reason to be mystics. :rolleyes:
 
Charlemagne_III said:
You don’t have a philosophy.
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Nagarjuna:

Nagarjuna’s philosophy represents something of a watershed not only in the history of Indian philosophy but in the history of philosophy as a whole, as it calls into questions certain philosophical assumptions so easily resorted to in our attempt to understand the world. Among these assumptions are the existence of stable substances, the linear and one-directional movement of causation, the atomic individuality of persons, the belief in a fixed identity or selfhood, and the strict separations between good and bad conduct and the blessed and fettered life. All such assumptions are called into fundamental question by Nagarjuna’s unique perspective which is grounded in the insight of emptiness (sunyata), a concept which does not mean “non-existence” or “nihility” (abhava), but rather the lack of autonomous existence (nihsvabhava).
You have a religion that is bereft of philosophy.
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Most certainly not. If anything it has too much. Zen Buddhism saw that as a problem, and tried to simplify things by cutting away a lot of the philosophy. However, the philosophy is still there alongside Zen, so either path is available.
You accept scriptures that come from God knows where
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Almost all the scriptures were originally spoken by the Buddha. A few were spoken by his leading disciples.
and by your own witness in other threads you don’t believe the gods matter anyway.
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They don’t. No god can attain nirvana for me so I have to do that myself. All a god can do is to attain nirvana for himself.

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weller2 said:
Oh, that’s just something I find terribly amusing when I look at Christianity as a complete system. I mean, you have God who is ultimately responsible for the entire Universe, with its galaxy collisions, black holes tearing starts apart, supernova explosions obliterating planets, gamma ray bursts wiping civilizations – and who, at the same time is greatly concerned that in galaxy #77881485647, on a planet #585451548560, lifeform #47912268951 is doing something inappropriate with its genitals.
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May I screen shot this reply? It’s positively gorgeous.
 
Charlemagne_III said:
You don’t have a philosophy. You have a religion that is bereft of philosophy. You accept scriptures that come from God knows where, and by your own witness in other threads you don’t believe the gods matter anyway.

You are a mystic. Not that I oppose mystics. I just oppose mystics who have no reason to be mystics. :rolleyes:
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The self-importance is strong with this one…
I could say the same about you and risk being banned.
 
rossum said:
No god can attain nirvana for me so I have to do that myself. All a god can do is to attain nirvana for himself.
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Do you really believe a thousand gods who live for themselves are a more satisfactory explanation than one unselfish God who cares for others? :eek:
 
tonyrey said:
…Your post looked dotty…😃

If science and the things I listed belong in different boxes it demonstrates the inadequacy of science.
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I don’t have a toilet in my kitchen, but that doesn’t make it inadequate for food preparation.
 
Lokadottir said:
The self-importance is strong with this one…
I could say the same about you and risk being banned.
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Self importance might also be calling yourself a Norse Pagan? 😉

But horns growing out of one’s helmet does not make one important. What say you? :confused:
 
tonyrey said:
Do you really believe a thousand gods who live for themselves are a more satisfactory explanation than one unselfish God who cares for others? :eek:
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Gods are not an explanation for much. They are inhabitants of the universe who are immaterial, longer lived and more powerful than other inhabitants, but not fundamentally different. Gods may be reborn as humans; humans may be reborn as gods.

Buddhism is not an Abrahamic religion, so it is usually an error to import Abrahamic assumptions into Buddhism.

rossum
 
Charlemagne_III said:
Self importance might also be calling yourself a Norse Pagan? 😉

But horns growing out of one’s helmet does not make one important. What say you? :confused:
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Firstly I say that horned helmets are a tradition from operas and have no archeological founding.
Secondly, how is placing an appropriate name on my belief system conceited? Your conceit was in the claim that Buddhism lacked philosophy.
 
rossum said:
Buddhism is not an Abrahamic religion, so it is usually an error to import Abrahamic assumptions into Buddhism.
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By the same token, it would not be wise to import Buddhist assumptions into Abrahamic assumptions.

The Buddhist gods in no way qaulify as gods that would be recognized in the Abrahamic tradition. They certainly are not supreme beings. So why call them gods at all? They are not even worshiped and can safely be ignored. Hardly the Abrahamic assumption of God. Certainly not the ancient Greek or Egyptian way to treat the gods.

Again, why call them gods?

But what does any of this have to do with the title of this thread?
 
rossum said:
Gods are not an explanation for much. They are inhabitants of the universe who are immaterial, longer lived and more powerful than other inhabitants, but not fundamentally different. Gods may be reborn as humans; humans may be reborn as gods.

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How do you know that all this is true? That gods are:

a) Inhabitants of the universe, immaterial, longer lived, more powerful
b) they actually get to reborn as humans and vice versa

What is the purpose of their existence if they don’t explain much? What are their nature? Why do they need to be reborn? How many gods are there altogether? Who decide which gods get to die, get to reborn, which human get to reborn as god? Who and what keeps the system going? How is the system being administered? Are these gods created or have they always existed? How do you get from the Big Bang to gods like these? Did they preceded the Big Bang?
 
ericc said:
How do you know that all this is true? That gods are:

a) Inhabitants of the universe, immaterial, longer lived, more powerful
b) they actually get to reborn as humans and vice versa

What is the purpose of their existence if they don’t explain much? What are their nature? Why do they need to be reborn? How many gods are there altogether? Who decide which gods get to die, get to reborn, which human get to reborn as god? Who and what keeps the system going? How is the system being administered? Are these gods created or have they always existed? How do you get from the Big Bang to gods like these? Did they preceded the Big Bang?
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Why is citing scripture sufficient for ONLY the Christians on here?
 
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