The Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise Scientology "wedding"

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Eileen_T said:
My 6 kids know that if they marry outside the Church I will not be attending.
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Well I’m very glad my parents attended our wedding when I married outside the church and my dad gave me away. They also attended our convalidation ceremony 13 years later. Even though they disapproved (and I knew they did) they were wise enough to know I had to make my own choices. I would have married my husband when I did regardless if my parents attended or not.
They didn’t love what I was doing but they loved me.

Sometimes things happen in Gods time instead of how we would want it to be.
 
rayne89 said:
Well I’m very glad my parents attended our wedding when I married outside the church and my dad gave me away. They also attended our convalidation ceremony 13 years later. Even though they disapproved (and I knew they did) they were wise enough to know I had to make my own choices. I would have married my husband when I did regardless if my parents attended or not.
They didn’t love what I was doing but they loved me.

Sometimes things happen in Gods time instead of how we would want it to be.
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The one thing I’m wondering about is doesn’t the Church say as Catholics we cannot attend weddings where a baptized Catholic purposely chooses not to get married in the Church or receive a dispensation? I recall hearing it on CA Live at different times. Can someone clarify? Does it cause scandal for a Catholic to attend such a wedding? And if the Church does say we are not to attend, then I have to go with what the Church says first, even if it means not going to my own child’s wedding.
 
catsrus said:
I give it 4 years…out the outside.
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You are considerably more generous than I am. I give it less than 2 years. More than 70% of couples who cohabit together never exceed 3 years together…and celebrity marriages like living in a fishbowl…everyone is just looking at every move you make. I think his is going to be a serious problem for all parties. The real victim…the baby caught between them.
 
T1Catholic said:
The one thing I’m wondering about is doesn’t the Church say as Catholics we cannot attend weddings where a baptized Catholic purposely chooses not to get married in the Church or receive a dispensation? I recall hearing it on CA Live at different times. Can someone clarify? Does it cause scandal for a Catholic to attend such a wedding? And if the Church does say we are not to attend, then I have to go with what the Church says first, even if it means not going to my own child’s wedding.
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The funny thing about this is, lets say for the sake of argument that you cant.

I would anyway. You betcha. You heard it here first. This is the first time I have ever vocally said that I would defy a rule of the Church. Never had a reason to in the past. But now that I have a little one, I am starting to think about that senario happening to me (of course several mini strokes later)
And I have decided that I will never under any circumstances not be around for the most important events (as well as the routine of course) in life.
Never.
Never.
Never.
Let them excommunicate me then! That will be the only instance I can imagine I would pitch the Bride of Christ out if it were an either/or.

Of course, I would do whatever it would take to get back into the Church since excommunication is not permanent.🙂
 
stbruno said:
You are considerably more generous than I am. I give it less than 2 years. More than 70% of couples who cohabit together never exceed 3 years together…and celebrity marriages like living in a fishbowl…everyone is just looking at every move you make. I think his is going to be a serious problem for all parties. The real victim…the baby caught between them.
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I give it for life. Why? I have no valid reason to. I just want it to be that way for all involved.
 
Damascus said:
The funny thing about this is, lets say for the sake of argument that you cant.

I would anyway. You betcha. You heard it here first. This is the first time I have ever vocally said that I would defy a rule of the Church. Never had a reason to in the past. But now that I have a little one, I am starting to think about that senario happening to me (of course several mini strokes later)
And I have decided that I will never under any circumstances not be around for the most important events (as well as the routine of course) in life.
Never.
Never.
Never.
Let them excommunicate me then! That will be the only instance I can imagine I would pitch the Bride of Christ out if it were an either/or.

Of course, I would do whatever it would take to get back into the Church since excommunication is not permanent.🙂
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I love my three children and the fourth one on the way. It would be hard for me not to attend their wedding but if my children walked away from the Church and the Church said it would be wrong to attend, I’m sorry but as much as it might upset some people to hear this, Jesus has to come first, then family. I never thought this way before, but if Jesus is God and the RCC is His Church, who am I to tell God that I know better. I have a relative who did not attend her daughter’s wedding because she turned her back on Jesus (they are Protestants) and married a Muslim. It’s hard to do but by not going you’re saying that Jesus takes prominance over everything. I never would have thought I’d talk this way ten years ago! I hope I never have to encounter this situation!!!
 
T1Catholic said:
I love my three children and the fourth one on the way. It would be hard for me not to attend their wedding but if my children walked away from the Church and the Church said it would be wrong to attend, I’m sorry but as much as it might upset some people to hear this, Jesus has to come first, then family. I never thought this way before, but if Jesus is God and the RCC is His Church, who am I to tell God that I know better. I have a relative who did not attend her daughter’s wedding because she turned her back on Jesus (they are Protestants) and married a Muslim. It’s hard to do but by not going you’re saying that Jesus takes prominance over everything. I never would have thought I’d talk this way ten years ago! I hope I never have to encounter this situation!!!
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Well, thankfully were are dealing with a hypothetical so far.

Until I have proof, I am just unable to say I would be doing anything wrong.

If anyone knows and can cite documents on this please do.

And, can the parents of the unruly kids get a dispensation to attend the non catholic wedding??

If I can get a loophole I will take it in this senario.
 
Scientology. Anyone ever see the Far Side Cartoon where you have two gates of Heaven, one the true one, the other the Scientology one which as a board up with the tariff and what credit cards are accepted? 😃

Mind you it’s a great scam. Failed Sci-Fi writer makes up his own religion and watches the money flood in? No money in space adventure anymore I suppose.
 
I don’t know if y’all a’re aware but Katie has renounced her Catholic faith. She has already joined scientology, hence the “joy” by Tom.
-unworthy
 
unworthy said:
I don’t know if y’all a’re aware but Katie has renounced her Catholic faith. She has already joined scientology, hence the “joy” by Tom.
-unworthy
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Where did you hear this from? I dont buy it without citations. Sorry no dice.
 
I dont believe it unless its Katie saying it. That Tom Cruise is not credible.
 
It won’t matter anyway because it probably won’t last more than a few months! 🙂

These Hollywood weddings make me sick!
 
nancy_mom said:
It won’t matter anyway because it probably won’t last more than a few months! 🙂

These Hollywood weddings make me sick!
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At least they still get married - no matter how lightly it may or may not be taken.

Today there is more unmarrieds living in a state of sin hellbound and unrepentant.

Lets try to find something good in this odd and very sad affair.
 
Perhaps Katie’s parents would rather see her married to the father of her child than living in sin with him.
 
Katie Holmes was raised a Catholic, went to an All Girls School, and was actually engaged to another actor (Chris Klein?) and then suddenly breaks up with him and goes out with Tom Cruise, has sex with him, gets pregnant…she’s been brainwashed.

Pray for her soul. She needs it. And poor little Suri. She won’t ever know the joy of learning about Jesus.

But maybe the marriage WILL fail…Tom Cruise has had two failed marriages…he must have been desperate.

By the way, his first wife…was she Catholic? He seems to be going after the Catholics in Hollywood…Nicole…now Katie.
 
The saddest part is the public reaction. Just the bulletpoints:
  1. Almost every religious group refuses to even consider it a marriage because it’s not under their rules.
  2. The tabloids have decided that their personal lives aren’t personal enough to prevent the unalienable right of the press to follow them around everywhere, record their every move, invade their privacy and make up lies about them.
  3. Non-religious groups are crawling up Cruise saying he’s crazy. Tell me; who here beleives in something they cannot see? I find that a perfectly acceptable thing to beleive in, but someone else may think it’s nuts. But if someone said that, people would yell about disrespect.
  4. Everyone on all sides assumes Holmes is
    Brainwashed
    Coerced
    Misguided
    Ignorant
    or
    All of the above
    Because she made a personal choice that doesn’t sit right with them.
I cannot be the only person on planet earth who thinks that it’s despicable that because these people are famous, we are free to pry open their lives, dump the innards on the sidewalk and stomp them into jelly. This goes to the posters on ALL internet forums, the TV talk shows, the tabloids, the so-called news shows, everyone. If someone climbed up your private life the way people have theirs, if someone made up rampant rumors and speculation like that about you, I have a feeling you wouldn’t be happy.
 
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