The King of Anti-Catholic Whoppers

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He would deny his place in Heaven - not his identity as a Christian. That remains forever. There are Christians in Hell.
I think that when we deny (reject) Christ we are in essence becoming anti-Christ–this definition necessitates that the person becomes the opposite of what he/she was:

He that is not with me, is against me: and he that gathereth not with me, scattereth. (St. Matthew 12:30)

There is no two ways about it!

Maran atha!

Angel
 
I wonder if WE as Catholics will be able to accept the truth then! We haven’t exactly been good stewards of Christ’s Church. 😊
…specially those who believe that the great umbrella covers them and all they have to do is claim the title (“I’m Catholic”).

Maran atha!

Angel
 
I’ve been eyeing this shirt since BXVI.

cafepress.com/ratzfanclub.21274418

Not the same quote you refer to, but anyone wearing this would be proud of it.
Man! If my confraternity didn’t have a “solid colors only” dress code, I would have that shirt. I used to have the shirt that said, “Protons have Mass? I didn’t even know they were Catholic!” – but I gave it away to a friend who teaches chemistry at Salve Regina University.
 
I think that when we deny (reject) Christ we are in essence becoming anti-Christ–this definition necessitates that the person becomes the opposite of what he/she was:

He that is not with me, is against me: and he that gathereth not with me, scattereth. (St. Matthew 12:30)

There is no two ways about it!

Maran atha!

Angel
I think what jmcrae is saying is that baptism imposes an indelible mark on the soul.
 
Hello Angel!

In your post you state: "Really?.. I have always thought that if a Christian denied Jesus He would deny the Christian (the person would forfit his/her allegiance to Christ)… " And this is true for those who are leaving the Body of Christ, but in regards to BEING Christian, those who are validly Baptised have an indelible, that is non-removeable, mark upon their souls, not their intellects! This is a fact that cannot be changed regardless of the point of view of the baptised individual. This is what greives the Sacred Heart so much for it is the Sacrament that brings a soul to Christ and gives that soul his name of Christian. And no matter how a person distances himself or herself from the Body, he is technically still a Christian!

Does this help?

Peace,

Gail
 
Hey Hosemonkey. I’ll remember. By the way, I like the cut of your gib young man.

God bless

JTG’S
 
Someone has to 'splain hosemonkey to me. In my neck of the woods it’s the guy who delivers your fuel oil.
 
Originally Posted by JRKH
Technically He may have been correct. Unless Hitler “Formally” quit the Church, he would have been still considered Catholic. Of course that means nothing in the whole picture.
I’m not sure what you “think” I’m saying beyond the actual words I typed in and posted.😊

So far As I know Adolf Hitler was born into a Catholic Family and one would assume he was baptized as an infant as most Catholic Children are. Thus he would have been entered onto the rolls of the Church as catholic and would have technically remained so unitl one of two things happened under canon law.
  1. He formally quite the Church by written letter to the Diocese.
  2. He was excommunicated.
Since neither of these things ever happened, so far as I am aware, then technically Hitler remained a catholic until the day He died.

However, nothing technical can change who he was or where his true spirituality lay. He was consumed and overwhelmed by Evil and Lived that Evil until His dieing breath when He committed suicide.

In you response, you changed the term from Catholic to Christian. Since I don’t think that Christian is, strictly speaking, a denominational term but rather a set of beliefs professed, I would say that one ceases to be a Christian when one rejects Christian beliefs.

Does that Clarify things??:hypno:

Peace
James
 
Hitler seemingly shot his wife Eva Braun, then, as he crushed a cynaide tablet between his teeth, shot himself. There is of course always the 0.000001% possibilty that Hitler made an act of perfect contrition for his sins, and it was Eva Braun who, fearing the approaching Allied Troops, in particular the Russians, forced a cyanide capsule into his mouth at gunpoint, then shot him without him knowing what she was going to do, causing him to bite down on the capsule, and after, shot herself. Nope, it ain’t likely, but we just don’t know and it’s not up to us to judge. But we can be assured that God, who does know, will judge.

JTG’S
 
I don’t want to start a new post for this, but merely to say I note a number of posters, at the foot of their posts, mention something about, "Tiber Swim Team of 90, or 80 etc. Could someone kindly tell a Scotsman over here what that means?: Is it a private joke, something I should know, or what?

JTG’S
 
I don’t want to start a new post for this, but merely to say I note a number of posters, at the foot of their posts, mention something about, "Tiber Swim Team of 90, or 80 etc. Could someone kindly tell a Scotsman over here what that means?: Is it a private joke, something I should know, or what?

JTG’S
They are converts and it is the year they were received into the Church.
 
I don’t want to start a new post for this, but merely to say I note a number of posters, at the foot of their posts, mention something about, "Tiber Swim Team of 90, or 80 etc. Could someone kindly tell a Scotsman over here what that means?: Is it a private joke, something I should know, or what?

JTG’S
It comes from the title of Steve Ray’s conversion story - it refers to the river Tiber that runs past the Vatican. To “cross the Tiber” or “swim the Tiber” is to convert to the Catholic faith. 🙂
 
It comes from the title of Steve Ray’s conversion story - it refers to the river Tiber that runs past the Vatican. To “cross the Tiber” or “swim the Tiber” is to convert to the Catholic faith. 🙂
Heck, “Swimming (or leaping or jumping) the Tiber,” is a term that has been in common use since the flood of Newman-style conversions in England in the 19th Century.
 
Heck, “Swimming (or leaping or jumping) the Tiber,” is a term that has been in common use since the flood of Newman-style conversions in England in the 19th Century.
So if one is a cradle catholic can you refer to yourslef as “thrown across the Tiber”?🙂
 
Thanks very much everyone. After a great dealo of thought I kind of suspected, but was by no means sure. Thought perhaps the American posters had been on some sort of summer camp over the years which involved this particular activity!!

Thanks Mercygate. You state “it is a term that has been in common use since the flood of Newman-style conversions in England in the 19th Century” Well not in Scotland is hasn’t, I can assure you of that. You have to understand Scotland is as far away from England as the Earth is from the Moon. Maybe further.

Alba Gu Braith

God bless

Jimmytwoguns

Tiber Swim Team. Class of '84
 
Thanks very much everyone. After a great dealo of thought I kind of suspected, but was by no means sure. Thought perhaps the American posters had been on some sort of summer camp over the years which involved this particular activity!!

Thanks Mercygate. You state “it is a term that has been in common use since the flood of Newman-style conversions in England in the 19th Century” Well not in Scotland is hasn’t, I can assure you of that. You have to understand Scotland is as far away from England as the Earth is from the Moon. Maybe further.

Alba Gu Braith

God bless

Jimmytwoguns

Tiber Swim Team. Class of '84
You are 100% right… My family and I was stationed in Scotland (Holy Loch-Dunoon) from 81-83… The US government even shipped over my car and we travelled and found big difference between the Scots and English. Pity though… I didn’t get a chance to visit Wales.
 
Hey Sabrefan,

When I was young I used to got to my Great Aunt’s house in Dunoon on holiday. Once while we were there my father who is a doctor (now retired) assisted one of your boy’s wives (stationed at the Holy Loch) who was having a difficult pregancy. All went well and as a token he gave my dad an American JFK silver dollar.

God bless

JTG’S:)
 
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