Well, I’ve had that part explained to me as: by His blood Christ won salvation for all, in the sense that salvation is open to all (this is basically what “redemption” is). Then we, by our free will, choose this salvation or not. Since not all choose salvation, not all are actually “saved”, but the potentiality is open to all because Christ died for all.
Because some people don’t even make any attempt to hide where there heart is.
Yes, McCall explained it best (thanks!) The wording can be misleading though.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
But we can’t control that. Everyone will always have an opinion for and against us no matter what we do. We shouldn’t criticize the Pope just because of other people’s reaction. If the Pope today said that all Roman Catholics should receive kneeling and on the tongue, no exceptions, wouldn’t you applaud that? Even though most Roman Catholics would probably object to it? I don’t see this case any different.
The thought had crossed my mind.But we can’t control that. Everyone will always have an opinion for and against us no matter what we do. We shouldn’t criticize the Pope just because of other people’s reaction. If the Pope today said that all Roman Catholics should receive kneeling and on the tongue, no exceptions, wouldn’t you applaud that? Even though most Roman Catholics would probably object to it? I don’t see this case any different.
By the way, isn’t it odd that an Orthodox man is defending the Pope from Catholics?
I will just say this, we Orthodox acknowledge orthodoxy wherever it may be. Pope Francis spoke the orthodox (true) faith, and he must be defended for this, even though we would disagree on other matters.The thought had crossed my mind.
Yes, it is odd.But we can’t control that. Everyone will always have an opinion for and against us no matter what we do. We shouldn’t criticize the Pope just because of other people’s reaction. If the Pope today said that all Roman Catholics should receive kneeling and on the tongue, no exceptions, wouldn’t you applaud that? Even though most Roman Catholics would probably object to it? I don’t see this case any different.
By the way, isn’t it odd that an Orthodox man is defending the Pope from Catholics?
They are creations of God, infinitely beloved. Yet, as John says:
I don’t think I am. You’re being scandalized because people don’t know. But is that Pope Francis’ fault?
1250 Born with a fallen human nature and tainted by original sin, children also have need of the new birth in Baptism to be freed from the power of darkness and brought into the realm of the freedom of the children of God, to which all men are called. The sheer gratuitousness of the grace of salvation is particularly manifest in infant Baptism.* The Church and the parents would deny a child the priceless grace of becoming a child of God were they not to confer Baptism shortly after birth**.*
Its not his fault they dont know, but it is his “fault” or “responsibility” if something he says causes confusion or scandal, particularly if its clear that it would do so.
That is what I have been saying all along, no matter what he says people can make scandal out of it if they want. The Truth scandalizes those who refuse it, its in Scripture. We shouldn’t be worried about what others say, if we do then we’ll be so preoccupied all our lives trying to please everyone. Do we want the Pope to end up a victim of the PC crowd?
Indeed. Francis has only inherited 50 years’ worth of poor catechesis on the part of the Church. But, we as parents are also the Church, so we must share the blame. Even individual Catholics are not off the hook, as catechisms are free online and $8 in stores. There is no excuse to be confused about the basics. This takes much time to correct, but it is being corrected.
There has always been more people poorly catechized in the history of the Church, way back in the First Century. Let’s not pretend that this is a new issue. If more people were properly catechized back then, why were there more people on the side of the heretics than on the side of orthodoxy during the Ecumenical Councils of the First Millennium? And why do we have so few saints?
Oh I agree, people would make scandal out of anything, I just think in this instance he was “asking for it”. I think this played right into the PC crowd’s hands, even though its technically correct.
Please explain this more, I’d love to hear something encouraging right now
With 1.2 billion members, the Church is a huge ship. Course corrections are being made, but such a huge ship takes time to turn around. CAF is part of the answer to this, as we are all learning here. Teaching is the responsibility of the Church, but she has done so with the printing of the catechism. Every Catholic should have one - heck, every Christian, so that they know what the Church teaches and why. Reading the catechism is an individual responsibility. In that regard, we have probably all failed.Please explain this more, I’d love to hear something encouraging right now
Certainly not a new issue, only contemporary. The early problem, among others, was the slowness of communication and perhaps a lack of throttling the heretics in time. We have no such communication problem today, and anyone on-line can locate Catholic or Orthodox teachings very quickly - except that most of us don’t. This is a lack of fervency on our parts, perhaps?