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Jody60
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mercygate;1497777 The best quick description of it is that by the mystery of Christ’s High Priesthood said:
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djrakowski
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No, re-presentation means “to present again,” not “to present as a symbol.”
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djrakowski
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Tsk, tsk, Jody… watch that charity level!
Conduct rule #7 seems to apply: “Non-Catholics are welcome to participate but must be respectful of the faith of the Catholics participating on the board.”
And with respect to your crack about my “inadequacies,” consider conduct rule #1: “Messages posted to this board must be polite and free of personal attacks, threats, and crude or sexually-explicit language, rude comments and innuendo.”
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asteroid
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If you are that desperate, the way out is either the words ‘log out’ at the top of this page or for a more extreme way out the X at the top right of the screen.
But please stick around.
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djrakowski
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Nobody’s keeping you as a prisoner here. If you don’t like it, you know where to find the exit.
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jimmy
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It was in the Eucharist(“In the breaking of the bread”) that the disciples in Luke24 knew Jesus. There is no indication in all of scripture that it is only a rememberance(all though it is a remembrance). In fact all of the new testament tells us that it is the actual body, and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1Cor.10 tells us that the benediction of the bread and wine is our participation in the body and blood of Jesus Christ. 1Cor.11 tells us that we eat and drink unto judgement if we recieve it unworthily. The synoptic gospels tell us in the last supper it is the body and blood of Jesus. John6 tells us you shall have no life in you unless you eat the flesh of the son of man. Not one instance in the scriptures does it indicate that it is figurative. Not one instance does it indicate that it is not the body, and blood, and soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ.
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maurin
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Fleeing from the truth? Who else does that…
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jimmy
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No, re-presentation means that it is the same event brought to us. If he would have removed the dash and said representation, maybe that could be true but that is not what he said. Re-presentation specifically means that it happens once and it is presented in the present time to us. Another way to look at it is that God is outside of time and that Christ is united to Gods eternity, so at once Christs sacrifice is present to all times. All times are present to God. So when the mass is celebrated it is participation in that one sacrifice.
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mercygate
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That is how many of the disciples reacted in John, Chapter 6, after Jesus delivered the Bread of Life Discourse relating to this very subject. They left the Lord because they did not understand his “hard saying.”
Eleven of the 12 remained with him – not because they could understand what he was saying, but because in their personal relationship with him, they had come to trust him, to understand that he had the words of eternal life.
This is the point at which Judas begins to withdraw.
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MariaG
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Please give your definition of baptized by the Holy Spirit.
And many here are converts/reverts who spent ALOT of time learning and talking to Our Lord while in churches other than the Catholic Church.
You assume that we have not been baptized by the Holy Spirit, when in fact, even using your definition, many here have in fact been baptized by the Holy Spirit.
Do not make judgements of things that you do not have any knowledge of just because we are Catholic and you have judged us not Christian.
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RedDeathsMask
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OK, Dan Brown, time for a time out.
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Jody60
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(Edited to remove sarcasm.)
You don’t even believe in the concept of being saved. Why even bother to eat the flesh and blood if you are not saved?
Christ says that whoever eats and drinks His Body and Blood will live forever and be saved. Your Church denies that. No Catholic has the security that he will go to heaven.
Jesus also said whoever eats AND drinks His Body and Blood will be saved.
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djrakowski
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Who says we don’t believe in the concept of “being saved?” Just because we wouldn’t phrase it in your (non-Biblical) way doesn’t mean we don’t believe in the concept of salvation!
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MariaG
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Once again, you need to actually learn what Catholics believe before so ignorantly declaring things.
From CA Library Assurance of Salvation?
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maurin
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I believe that Jody is only trying to get a reaction. I find it difficult to believe that anyone with a reasonable amount of maturity and education would state the drivel she states.
Either that or she does not have a reasonable amount of maturity or education.
I opt for the former. I wish to grow in charity.
Either that or she does not have a reasonable amount of maturity or education.
I opt for the former. I wish to grow in charity.
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Michael_Francis
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[sign]Having been derailed from it’s topic and degenerated in charity this thread is now closed.[/sign]
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