Hebrews chapter 10 verse 12-13. But this man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God. From that time waiting till his enemies are made his footstool.
Jody, take a deep breath here. You have no way on God’s green earth of knowing whether DJ was “baptized with the Holy Spirit” by your definition of that term.
We admit nothing of the kind because this in no way describes the Sacrifice of the Mass. The best quick description of it is that by the mystery of Christ’s High Priesthood, conferred on the entire body of believers and in a special way to the ministerial Apostolic Priestood, the veil of time is penetrated and we are admitted to the once for all Sacrifice of Calvary, to that same Sacrifice that finished the work of redemption. We are brought into the perpetual offering of the Lamb to his Father through the unbloody sacrifice of the altar.
Is he present in your heart? If he is, then how can he be at the right had of God at the same time?
That’s not miraculous? Come on now! He was carried up to heaven!
The “Holy Spirit” (the helper) dwells in my heart. Have you never heard of the Trinity? The three in one. When Jesus was present on the earth it was only one place at a time. He was was not in hundreds of places at the same time preaching and healing people. He wasn’t multiplicity.
His Resurrection Body (which, I am sure we would both agree is a real body, and the one he used when he walked among us as a man) demonstrates quite different properties from those he displayed before the Resurrection. Wouldn’t you agree?
You know this how??
Do you believe Macbeth dies everytime they do the play?
Which is sad, because memory is imperfect, and has no guarantee from Jesus of the gates of hell not prevailing.
A good point. That particular literalist manner of considering “cup” falls down even more if we look at 1Cor 11:27:
Janet, you have no way of knowing whether I was “saved” as an evangelical, so you need to stop trying to find ways ot reading my heart (and everyone else’s, while you’re at it).
No, I admit what the Catholic Church teaches about the sacrifice of the Mass, and not the definition you’re trying to force onto us, which is that the Mass is a perpetual re-presentation of the original sacrifice of Christ on the cross.
“In memory” is miles apart from “symbolic.”
Right on the money, asteroid!
And making bread and wine his body and blood is not?
Preach it, mercygate
Oh, believe me, I’m sure she’s willing to list out my inadequacies
A word about me - I used to be in a pentecostal church, speaking “words of knowledge”, speaking in tongues and interpretting them. I used to be a baptist preacher. I’ve prayed the sinner’s prayer. My faith was purely of a faith alone saves type. I studied with the Presbyterians for two university theology degrees.
I’ve heard the salvation message. Studied much (but not enough for my liking!) and became Catholic after finding, to my initial horror, that Catholicism is far more scriptural than any other church I’ve been part of. Many here can give similar stories of their shock at finding unexpected truth.
An excellent question. Feel free to add that thought.Right on the money, asteroid!
I hope you don’t mind if I add a small thought to your excellent explanation, but… how can one be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord if the elements of communion are merely symbolic?
If you claim the Mass is only a re-presentation than that means it is only symbolic.
No, it means that the one sacrifice of Christ is made present in the Mass.