The Missing Passover

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From this site
Let’s examine the Essene Solar Calendar
Their year began on the first Wednesday AFTER the sun entered the Constellation Aries, about March 20th. Pesach was always Celebrated on a Wednesday by those Observing the Essene Solar Calendar. Also, other Biblical Holidays were on set days, such as Shavuot (Pentecost); always on a Sunday in the Third Month, and Yom Kippur; always on a Friday.
WOW!! Did you see that? If the year started on March 22, the Passover is EARLIER than Ben’s claim, and on a Wednesday.

Here is another site
The Essene calendar, the calendar attested in I Enoch and the Book of Jubilees, consisted of a solar calendar of 364 days divided into seven-day weeks, twelve months of thirty days each except for one extra day in the last month of each quarter (Jaubert 1965:27; Pfeiffer 1969:64-65; Vanderkam 1998:55; Finegan 1998:44). The Feast of Unleavened Bread, Feast of Trumpets, Feast of Tabernacles, and Feast of the Great Day (often seen as the eighth day of the Feast of Tabernacles), always began on Wednesday, actually on Tuesday evening as the Jews began days at evening not midnight (Jaubert 1965:10; Simon 1967:73). Trumpets, Tabernacles, and the Great Day always occurred in the seventh month as set forth in the Law of Moses (Leviticus 23:24-44). As Nisan 15, the annual Sabbath, or Passover Sabbath, marking the start of the seven-day Feast of Unleavened bread began at sunset Tuesday night, the Essene observance of the Passover Seder was always on a Tuesday night (Finegan 1998:43, 48).
Now, dear Ben has already shown us that it can be late, but never early. This means that in accordance with Essene thought, Jesus was fine.

This site
is a little more in depth, but it shows that 30 A.D. would be the year.
The point of the foregoing is not to argue that Jesus was an Essene in some fashion. Rather, the point is merely to establish the archaeological and historical background that Essenes lived in Jerusalem and Judea and observed the Old Testament feasts on a 364-day solar calendar, and establish the feasibility (and opportunity) of an Essene Passover different from the “Passover of the Jews” as John referred to it (John 2:13, 11:55).
Consequently, based on best fit of the date and upper room location, Jesus and His disciples (and company) were likely hosted by Essenes when they observed Passover, and presumably it was an Essene observance of Passover according to Essene calendar keeping that Jesus observed in the upper room with His disciples. The Essenes are also generally recognized as being the most pure and devout sect whereas by contrast Jesus characterized the Pharisees as a ‘brood of vipers whose father was Satan’ and the Sadducees were agitating for an unscriptural revision in Counting the Omer to the Feast of Weeks. So it is not unreasonable that Jesus would observe an Essene Passover as opposed to that orchestrated by the Pharisees’ power struggles against the Sadducees (see also Two Passovers?).
So, the Passover that Jesus observed in the upper room was likely the Essene Passover and not the Jewish Passover (which was 1 day later), and we wish to ascertain how the Essenes determined Passover observances and how that compared to the Jewish Passover observances (table above).
I can post more sites and information, but I won’t. Ben, the onus is on you to disprove these sites. Can you do it? Can you show that historical research is not accurate and that Ben is?
 
TracyJ;5097089:
Well, you are correct- it’s certainly in there, but I wasn’t taught that the Last Supper
had anything to do with Passover.

In my life as a Jew. In my culture. In more than 4,000 years
that we celebrate the Passover Supper on the 14th of Nisan. And in that year 30 CE, it fell on Friday evening. If Luke was telling the truth Jesus celebrated in the 13th of Nisan, which was Thursday.
So, you are saying that Luke’s Passover does not coincide with the Jewish calendar, right?
I’m not a biblical scholar, but from what I’ve heard, there are a number of errors like that…
maybe due to the translators, who I don’t think deliberately would make an mistake
like that.
Maybe Luke got it wrong, or maybe the translators made an error.
I think that it’s likely that there WAS a person named Jesus who claimed to be the Son of God…that he came from Jewish heritage and that He probably did observe the Passover
if that’s a significant event in Jewish culture.
Then again, if Luke was a Gentile, he may not have realized the significance of the
calendar and didn’t pay attention to the dates.
I don’t see what the point of a huge hoax would be, were the apostles in it for the money
or the fame or because they actually saw something of great spiritual value which
would give them hope for eternal life?
Maybe, to the Early Church, dates were not such a big deal, witness the Pagan
Festival of the Sun which was incorporated into the Christmas holydays, since the Monks
who translated the bible didn’t have an issue with that date, it’s doubtful that they (not being of Jewish heritage in all liklihood) would have just glossed over the date thing.
I don’t think it’s a big deal to people who accept Jesus as part of the Holy Trinity.
Are you, as a Jew, offended by the New Testament?
 
Actually, according to the research that I have done since you started this rant of a thread, their calendar was a hybrid. It had qualitites of both. I suggest that you look into it a little.

I know Father Paqua’s credentials. I do not know yours. For all I know, you are some dude sitting in Hoboken, N.J. who is on here because he hates Catholics. If your position was true, why have other observant Jews who have gone on to accept Jesus not seen it? Why is this claim not made against Christianity by Atheists and Agnostics who seek to rewrite historya nd destroy the faith?

In any event, if Jesus is who we claim him to be, your position is worse than wrong. God can do as he will with when things are celebrated.
Ralph, I’ve learned that theologians tend to argue about the tiniest things that most folks
don’t have the stamina to contest.
I’ve read that the Jewish bible is, word for word, argued over in theological circles.
Hate has nothing to do with it. It’s just how these folks think and interact. Maybe
Ben decided to read the NT and now he’s following form in questioning what he reads.
That’s a good thing. He’s reading with a discerning heart, IMO, and anyway, God knows
Ben’s heart better than ours.

Some Jewish folks have accepted Jesus, others don’t.
I don’t think that those who do not are worse than wrong and I doubt that Jesus would
have a gripe against his own People.
 
Ben Masada;5097164:
So, you are saying that Luke’s Passover does not coincide with the Jewish calendar, right?

Right, it does not.
I’m not a biblical scholar, but from what I’ve heard, there are a number of errors like that…
maybe due to the translators, who I don’t think deliberately would make an mistake
like that.

Well my dear, someone did.

Maybe Luke got it wrong, or maybe the translators made an error.

If Luke got it wrong, there is contradiction in the NT on the one hand; and on the other hand, there was no Divine inspiration, because there is no confusion in God.

I think that it’s likely that there WAS a person named Jesus who claimed to be the Son of God…that he came from Jewish heritage and that He probably did observe the Passover
if that’s a significant event in Jewish culture.

Two things: First, Jesus never claimed to be the son of God, because he was Jewish and this idea is an item of Greek Mythology. Second, Jesus did not celebrate the Passover Feast that year because it fell on Friday evening and he was already in the tomb by then.

Then again, if Luke was a Gentile, he may not have realized the significance of the
calendar and didn’t pay attention to the dates.

That’s too bad because this has caused a lot of loss of credibility in the NT.

I don’t see what the point of a huge hoax would be, were the apostles in it for the money
or the fame or because they actually saw something of great spiritual value which
would give them hope for eternal life?

Neither one nor the other. Neither for money or fame, nor
for eternal life, because they were Jews and Jews believe that only God lives eternally. This of eternal life for humans is a Christian agenda; not Jewish.


Maybe, to the Early Church, dates were not such a big deal, witness the Pagan
Festival of the Sun which was incorporated into the Christmas holydays, since the Monks
who translated the bible didn’t have an issue with that date, it’s doubtful that they (not being of Jewish heritage in all liklihood) would have just glossed over the date thing.

I do agree with you. In that case, Christians should stop interfering with Judaism by using a religious Jew to insert Hellenistic innovations into it.

Are you, as a Jew, offended by the New Testament?

Only when the NT interferes with Judaism.
 
Actually, according to the research that I have done since you started this rant of a thread, their calendar was a hybrid. It had qualitites of both. I suggest that you look into it a little.

I know Father Paqua’s credentials. I do not know yours. For all I know, you are some dude sitting in Hoboken, N.J. who is on here because he hates Catholics. If your position was true, why have other observant Jews who have gone on to accept Jesus not seen it? Why is this claim not made against Christianity by Atheists and Agnostics who seek to rewrite historya nd destroy the faith?

In any event, if Jesus is who we claim him to be, your position is worse than wrong. God can do as he will with when things are celebrated.
**So, what is preventing you from following what this Father Paqua says? He is or was a Catholic; I am a Jew. We are talking about Jesus was was not a Catholic but a Jew. I am telling you that Jesus was not an Essene, and had no reason to celebrate the Passover Feast in a different day from mainstream Judaism. The issue here is not against Jesus or his disciples, but against the gospel writers, who were unaware of Jewish laws and customs.

Ben: **
 
**So, what is preventing you from following what this Father Paqua says? He is or was a Catholic; I am a Jew. We are talking about Jesus was was not a Catholic but a Jew. I am telling you that Jesus was not an Essene, and had no reason to celebrate the Passover Feast in a different day from mainstream Judaism. The issue here is not against Jesus or his disciples, but against the gospel writers, who were unaware of Jewish laws and customs.

Ben: **
Prove that Jesus could not have used the Essene Calendar. Proove that the links that I posted are wrong.

Rhetoric wilts in the face of facts. SHow that you have facts to back your rhetoric.
 
Congratulations! You have just uncovered a new contradiction in the NT. If Jesus did not observe the law, he lied in Matthew 5:17-19 when he said he came to fulfill the law in terms of observing, since he said that we all must do the same.

You don’t; but I do.

He was not. That’s Pauline rhetoric.

But why should I expect you to interfere with Judaism?


For all your disagreement I can only say,

**Jesus was Jewish. Paul had been one too. If it were not for the Jews, you would not even have a Christianity.

Ben**
Whoa , whoa. So we have a very angry Jew here because he sees Christianity as interfering with Judaism. Thank you. You’ve just given me greater insight as to why the likes of you killed the Messiah. And thanks God too, you have just saved the world!

So is it a personal crusade for you to be here, to tell the Christians to hand off Judaism?

If you refer to the Christian Bible in the NT , Acts 4, we have similar encounter. … But Peter and John said to the Sanhedrin, “You must judge whether in God’s eyes it is right to listen to you and not to God. We cannot stop proclaiming what we have seen and heard.” The court repeated the threats and then released them; they could not think of any way to punish them, since all the people were giving glory to God for what had happened.

You can twist the word of the NT but it won’t do you any good with lying. Jesus did not say he came to fulfill the Law in term of observing them otherwise you will contradict yourself when Jesus did transgress the Sabbath. He is the fulfillment of the Law in the sense that the Law shall no more have any hold over you because he has written the Law in your heart. It’s not what is outside that’s important but what’s in your heart and you will be judged by what is in your heart.

If you are not here to learn Christianity you may have your fun ridiculing it. I can’t stop you. I will only come in to correct your lies for the benefit of us who may be tempted to listen to them.
 
Ben, for your information from the Merriam-Webster online dictionary:

" ful·fill Listen to the pronunciation of fulfill
Variant(s):
or ful·fil Listen to the pronunciation of fulfil \fu̇(l)-ˈfil also fə(l)-\
Function:
transitive verb
Inflected Form(s):
ful·filled; ful·fill·ing
Etymology:
Middle English fulfillen, from Old English fullfyllan, from full + fyllan to fill
Date:
before 12th century

1archaic : to make full : fill <her subtle, warm, and golden breath…fulfills him with beatitude — Alfred Tennyson>2 a: to put into effect : execute b: to meet the requirements of (a business order) c: to bring to an end d: to measure up to : satisfy"

Now what did Jesus say in Matthew 5 - the passage that you are so fond of quoting? “not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law** until everything is accomplished**.”

And what did Jesus say from the cross just before He died? “IT IS ACCOMPLISHED”! At THAT point He fulfilled, accomplished - by bringing to an end - the Mosaic law. And instituted His own law - on some points (divorce and lust, revenge and justice) stricter than the Mosaic law, on others (washing before eating, clean and unclean animals) more relaxed.

QED. Paul, also an observant Jew, knew what it meant. As did all the formerly observant Jews who became Christians. Observant Jews didn’t cease converting to Christianity upon the commencement of Paul’s ministry nor upon the writing of the Gospels and Epistles of the NT either, Ben.

Those who converted after Paul’s time, after the time of the Apostles, too heard these words of Jesus and were perfectly able to understand them as indicating that the Mosaic law had been done away with at the death of Jesus which fulfilled it in its entirety.
 
Ben,

Now what did Jesus say in Matthew 5 - the passage that you are so fond of quoting? “not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.”

And verse 19, that you are fond to hide. It doesn’t help though, it’s in there for everyone who has a mind to understand that what Jesus did is expected that we all do the same.

And what did Jesus say from the cross just before He died? “IT IS ACCOMPLISHED”! At THAT point He fulfilled, accomplished - by bringing to an end - the Mosaic law. And instituted His own law - on some points (divorce and lust, revenge and justice) stricter than the Mosaic law, on others (washing before eating, clean and unclean animals) more relaxed.

And does it mean that the heaven and earth passed away?
Read verse 18 of Matthew 5. You must be kidding!


QED. Paul, also an observant Jew, knew what it meant. As did all the formerly observant Jews who became Christians. Observant Jews didn’t cease converting to Christianity upon the commencement of Paul’s ministry nor upon the writing of the Gospels and Epistles of the NT either, Ben.

And Paul was an observant Jew! Tell me, how can an observant Jew teach the Jews to abandon Moses, to stop circumcising their children, and to denounce the Jewish customs? (Acts 21:21) Is that your opinion of an observant Jew?

Those who converted after Paul’s time, after the time of the Apostles, too heard these words of Jesus and were perfectly able to understand them as indicating that the Mosaic law had been done away with at the death of Jesus which fulfilled it in its entirety.

**Who decided that, Paul? But of course! What’s new? I already know what happened between Matthew 5:17-19 and Ephesians 2:15.

Ben:**
 
And verse 19, that you are fond to hide. It doesn’t help though, it’s in there for everyone who has a mind to understand that what Jesus did is expected that we all do the same.
I’m not fond to hide anything - verse 19 says ‘if anyone breaks the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same …’ Jesus didn’t break the law, or the commandments, nor teach others to do the same, He fulfilled it, bringing some of it to an end, and taught others to follow His FULFILLED (meaning some ended) law, not the old unfulfilled law. So did the Apostles likewise.
And what did Jesus say from the cross just before He died? “IT IS ACCOMPLISHED”! At THAT point He fulfilled, accomplished - by bringing to an end - the Mosaic law. And instituted His own law - on some points (divorce and lust, revenge and justice) stricter than the Mosaic law, on others (washing before eating, clean and unclean animals) more relaxed.
And does it mean that the heaven and earth passed away?
Read verse 18 of Matthew 5. You must be kidding!
He said BOTH - ‘until heaven and earth pass away’ AND ‘until all be accomplished’. Unless you’re suggesting that it’s impossible to fulfil or accomplish the law, then Jesus did so and claimed to have done so. And that at that one and same moment heaven and earth would pass away.

And a new heaven and earth were indeed created - the old heaven and earth passed away - at the moment of His fulfilling the law on the Cross. That’s why the dead rose from their graves - the old laws of life and death themselves were done away with, certainly a new creation started at that time.
And Paul was an observant Jew! Tell me, how can an observant Jew teach the Jews to abandon Moses, to stop circumcising their children, and to denounce the Jewish customs? (Acts 21:21) Is that your opinion of an observant Jew?
Absolutely - that of one who observes completed and perfected Judaism rather than the unfulfilled and imperfect old law you keep on with.
Those who converted after Paul’s time, after the time of the Apostles, too heard these words of Jesus and were perfectly able to understand them as indicating that the Mosaic law had been done away with at the death of Jesus which fulfilled it in its entirety.
**Who decided that, Paul? But of course! What’s new? I already know what happened between Matthew 5:17-19 and Ephesians 2:15.
And why on earth would anyone listen to Paul then, if his ideas were abhorrent to them as observant Jews? But many many observant Jews did listen and* did* convert.
 
Hi, kalt,

You’re right about not joking with this Ben… but, in my opinion, the mental illness part is going too far.
I was joking when I called Ben “prophet” a few days ago.

Folks, leave this poor soul alone. He may be playing with us, in which case there’s no reason to continue. OTOH, he may be serious.

Mental illness is nothing to joke around with. Let it be. ❤️
Ben has only demonstrated: a strongly held opinion which he holds to with more opinion, a clear method of evading direct questions by criticizing those who seriously question him, a repitition of unproveable statements (e.g., I say, ‘Jesus was married; prove me wrong.’) and an almost palpable hatred for the CC. To my way of thinking, he is simply delusional and further engagement is not moving the topic forward. Maybe the Jews for Jesus group would be a better site for Ben to display his self-proclaimed abundant knowledge of Jewish laws and traditions.

“Don’t feed the bears” has prudent applications outside of the usual forest setting you find such signs.

God bless

Tom
 
TracyJ;5098249:
Ben Masada;5097164:
So, you are saying that Luke’s Passover does not coincide with the Jewish calendar, right?

Right, it does not.
I’m not a biblical scholar, but from what I’ve heard, there are a number of errors like that…
maybe due to the translators, who I don’t think deliberately would make an mistake
like that.

Well my dear, someone did.

Maybe Luke got it wrong, or maybe the translators made an error.

If Luke got it wrong, there is contradiction in the NT on the one hand; and on the other hand, there was no Divine inspiration, because there is no confusion in God.

I think that it’s likely that there WAS a person named Jesus who claimed to be the Son of God…that he came from Jewish heritage and that He probably did observe the Passover
if that’s a significant event in Jewish culture.

Two things: First, Jesus never claimed to be the son of God, because he was Jewish and this idea is an item of Greek Mythology. Second, Jesus did not celebrate the Passover Feast that year because it fell on Friday evening and he was already in the tomb by then.

Then again, if Luke was a Gentile, he may not have realized the significance of the
calendar and didn’t pay attention to the dates.

That’s too bad because this has caused a lot of loss of credibility in the NT.

I don’t see what the point of a huge hoax would be, were the apostles in it for the money
or the fame or because they actually saw something of great spiritual value which
would give them hope for eternal life?

Neither one nor the other. Neither for money or fame, nor
for eternal life, because they were Jews and Jews believe that only God lives eternally. This of eternal life for humans is a Christian agenda; not Jewish.


Maybe, to the Early Church, dates were not such a big deal, witness the Pagan
Festival of the Sun which was incorporated into the Christmas holydays, since the Monks
who translated the bible didn’t have an issue with that date, it’s doubtful that they (not being of Jewish heritage in all liklihood) would have just glossed over the date thing.

I do agree with you. In that case, Christians should stop interfering with Judaism by using a religious Jew to insert Hellenistic innovations into it.

Are you, as a Jew, offended by the New Testament?

Only when the NT interferes with Judaism.

There’s been so many horrible things done by Christians to Jewish people that I can
well understand your frustration. BUT…
I personally don’t understand why a person would bother with religion if it didn’t offer
some comfort in the form of a life after death. And why do Jewish people worry about
people praying for them after death if they don’t figure that they’re going to be somewhere
where they could use the prayers?
 
Ben Masada;5098609:
TracyJ;5098249:
There’s been so many horrible things done by Christians to Jewish people that I can
well understand your frustration. BUT…
I personally don’t understand why a person would bother with religion if it didn’t offer
some comfort in the form of a life after death.

That’s conditional faith. What kind of merit there is in serving God with an eye in comfortable life after death? We serve God without any preconditions. You remind me of Paul who would serve God only if the dead resurrected, as he said, that if the dead won’t resurrect, let us eat and drink for tomorrow we die. That’s typical conditional faith. (I Cor. 15:32) That’s Christian; not Jewish.
And why do Jewish people worry about
people praying for them after death if they don’t figure that they’re going to be somewhere
where they could use the prayers?

**We don’t worry about anything. Only to serve God through obedience to the Law. Prayers after death are a waste of time.

Ben**
 
I’m not fond to hide anything - verse 19 says ‘if anyone breaks the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same …’ Jesus didn’t break the law, or the commandments, nor teach others to do the same, He fulfilled it, bringing some of it to an end, and taught others to follow His FULFILLED (meaning some ended) law, not the old unfulfilled law. So did the Apostles likewise.

I am sorry, but you do not understand what you read.

He said BOTH - ‘until heaven and earth pass away’ AND ‘until all be accomplished’. Unless you’re suggesting that it’s impossible to fulfil or accomplish the law, then Jesus did so and claimed to have done so. And that at that one and same moment heaven and earth would pass away.

You have the right to give any interpretation you want. But I cannot understand this text with the mind of a Christian.

And a new heaven and earth were indeed created - the old heaven and earth passed away - at the moment of His fulfilling the law on the Cross. That’s why the dead rose from their graves - the old laws of life and death themselves were done away with, certainly a new creation started at that time.

That’s all Pauline rhetoric.

Absolutely - that of one who observes completed and perfected Judaism rather than the unfulfilled and imperfect old law you keep on with.

You continue with the same Pauline views against the views of Jesus himself.

And why on earth would anyone listen to Paul then, if his ideas were abhorrent to them as observant Jews? But many many observant Jews did listen and* did* convert.

**The answer is in Hosea 4:6. “My people perish for lack of knowledge.”

Ben**
 
You can twist the word of the NT but it won’t do you any good with lying. Jesus did not say he came to fulfill the Law in term of observing them otherwise you will contradict yourself when Jesus did transgress the Sabbath. He is the fulfillment of the Law in the sense that the Law shall no more have any hold over you because he has written the Law in your heart. It’s not what is outside that’s important but what’s in your heart and you will be judged by what is in your heart.

QUOTE]

You are accusing Jesus with having broken the Law, when you say that he transgressed the Sabbath, which is the fourth commandment of the Law. Since sin is the transgression of the Law, you can no longer say that Jesus was without sin. That’s progress among Catholics. Congratulations!
 
The Missing Passover

We are starting Passover here in Israel. But since the wheels of the Truth cannot stop rolling, I want to bring to your attention the Passover of the year 30 CE. It was supposed to be the last one that Jesus would partake of, and he missed it.

According to John 19:31, that Sabbath was a solemn Sabbath, which is what we call in Hebrew a Shabbaton. That’s when a festival falls on the Sabbath. The KJV brings: “For that Sabbath day was a high day.”

That Sabbath was the 14th of the month of Nissan; the first day of Passover. The beginning of it is celebrated with the Passover Supper at the evening of the previous day, being that year on Friday. That’s what we call the Seder Meal.

In the year 30 CE, the Passover Supper was held on the evening of that Friday. No wonder, everyone somehow connected with the events taking place on the Calvary that day, had to leave it in a hurry to prepare themselves and their houses for the Passover Supper.

Jesus missed that Passover Supper because he was on the cross, and soon afterwards, in the tomb. But then again, how to understand that he celebrated his Passover Supper on the evening of Thursday, which was the 13th of Nissan? He didn’t. In Israel, no Jew would celebrate Passover in a different day alone or in a small group when everyone else would be doing it next day.

This discrepancy is perhaps due to the fact that the gospel writer, writing somehwere in the world, and realizing that the Jews in the Diaspora would celebrate every festival in two days, thought he could have Jesus celebrate the Passover Supper on the 13 of Nissan. It would have worked if Jesus was a Diaspora Jew; but in Israel there is no such a thing.

There is an option in Judaism to celebrate the Passover later, even a month later, if the person was not for some reason ready for it; but NEVER before. It means that, definitely, Jesus missed that Passover celebration, because his reported “Last Supper” did not have anything to do with the Passover Supper.

The gospel writer had either no idea what he was writing about or simply thought we would never find out about his blunder.

Ben
I’m sorry, I haven’t read all through this thread, so this may have already been said.
There were two sabbaths that week the anual sabbath and the normal sabbath. I believe the Lord Jesus was crucified on the wednesday and rose again 3 full day’s later, that’s 72 hours. 🙂
 
I’m sorry, I haven’t read all through this thread, so this may have already been said.
There were two sabbaths that week the anual sabbath and the normal sabbath. I believe the Lord Jesus was crucified on the wednesday and rose again 3 full day’s later, that’s 72 hours. 🙂
Hi Brit72-
Could you provide a source? Our Bible study group is puzzled by the Last Supper and Passover. We know Jesus died on the Preparation Day for the Sabbath, He died at 3PM when the Passover lambs were slaughterd. But Passover meal is insinuated in Holy Thursday meal.

Thanks.
 
Hi Brit72-
Could you provide a source? Our Bible study group is puzzled by the Last Supper and Passover. We know Jesus died on the Preparation Day for the Sabbath, He died at 3PM when the Passover lambs were slaughterd. But Passover meal is insinuated in Holy Thursday meal.

Thanks.
Just google, Jesus Christ died on a wednesday and you will find what you are looking for. 🙂
 
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