I can see you are skilled at moving the goalposts around.
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They need to know whether or not they need to use PPE before they get close enough to take a history, and there is a shortage of PPE.
The goal line is whether or not first responders have any right to know they are responding to the home of a COVID-19 positive person.
They do have that right, even if someone needing a police or EMS response want to be coy about it.
(What is this “take a history” stuff? The paranoid guy is going to tell them? Sure he will, because he can be depended on to be a “good person”… never mind that maybe he’s turning blue…)
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So the operator for the call can’t ask and pass that info along?
Not even close.
You may wish to read back on that particular part of the thread.
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OK, whatever. You don’t think EMS need to be told in advance they’re responding to a COVID-19 call. Sorry, you can not like it all you like; legally, it is a legitimate reason.
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We are dealing with a whole bunch of previously (and currently) unknown factors here. It is unreasonable to expect that advice and action will not or should not change if knowledge changes.LilyM:
I can see you are skilled at moving the goalposts around.
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That is not what was said.
You may again wish to review the posts as you seem to be missing information that has been gone over.
Correct.
New information has been coming out on nearly a daily basis.
Agreed.
I expect freedoms we used to enjoy to be back in place as we are learning more about this virus.
Sadly, this is not the case.
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I’m not sure that extra knowledge is making it less infectious, less risky or easier to treat. Which is really what we need to know.before restoring things to the way they were.LilyM:
Correct.
New information has been coming out on nearly a daily basis.
Agreed.
I expect freedoms we used to enjoy to be back in place as we are learning more about this virus.
Sadly, this is not the case.
By the way, we are also learning more about the capablilties - and flaws - of our healthcare systems. Which need to be considered also, and which in some places are not exactly doing well.
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You wrote:
If HIV were transmitted via aerosol, you’d better believe they would tell first responders who had it. Yes, they’d be told where the quarantine houses were. They’re not going to wear PPE on every call as if everyone were in quarantine.
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True.
But the lockdown was put in place when we knew very little. At the time, the most extreme measures were put in place as we had no idea how bad it could be and had to plan out the worst.
We now know better.
There is a reason to maintain distance outside.
But there is no reason to keep people from sitting on a bench at a beach.
There is no reason to keep parks closed.
The is no reason for cerfews to be in place.
Yet the authorities are keeping them in place.
Your efforts towards a straw man are noted.
‘if’?
Hypotheses make poor arguments.
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You do know that it has been demonstrated that HIV is not transmitted via aerosol? Why wouldn’t I say “if”? (You wrote “Can you imagine the outcry if they started telling police where AIDS patients live?” so that is the origin of the hypothesis that HIV would never have been treated this way.)
If you are saying that necessary information might be kept from first responders for political reasons, however, I think you could have a point. I don’t know, but it is possible that you’d be right. It is a reasonable concern, because public health policy is subject to the influence of politics. I won’t try to deny that. Such a failure wouldn’t be because the first responders didn’t feel they had every right to safe work conditions.
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And people who have a special concern already opt for Medical ID Bracelets to inform first responders. I like having this option for people but don’t like it broadly accessible in a global database.
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Open in Chrome and select the translate option
www.lavanguardia.com
Madrid’s field hospital closes today after attending over 4000 coronavirus patients and saving hospitals from being overwhelmed.
Un emocionante último baile para echar el cierre al hospital de Ifema
Abierto desde el 21 de marzo, ha atendido a 4.000 pacientes | Seguirá activo como centro logístico por si se produce un rebrote
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Open in chrome, and select ‘translate’
France: Re-tested blood of 24 patients treated in December for pneumonia finds Covid-positive
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CDC site United States 37,308 Covid deaths as of May 1 Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
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worth reading, in layman terms
www.erinbromage.com
Xôi Lạc TV – Link trực tiếp bóng đá hôm nay miễn phí, full HD số 1 Việt Nam
Xoilac TV là cái tên không còn xa lạ với những tín đồ bóng đá Việt Nam. Nổi tiếng với khả năng mang đến những trận cầu đỉnh cao cùng chất lượng hình ảnh sắc nét, mượt mà, chúng tôi đã và đang khẳng định vị thế dẫn đầu trong lĩnh vực phát sóng bóng đá trực tuyến.
www.erinbromage.com
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