The 'New Evangelization' for Catholics ... why not join with the Protestant Evangelicals ?

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=brb3;10744159]Bill Bright developed a dynamic, winning idea for a tract 50 years ago. It forms the heart for the very successful evangelism efforts of non-denominational Protestant organization called Campus Crusade for Christ.
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link: www.4laws.com/laws/english/flash/
Its 4 Spiritual Laws and Sinner’s Prayer … have brought millions to discover a Personal Relationship with Christ.

Lets join the CC [Catholic Church] with the CC [Campus Crusade] ----- brother/sisters working together to fulfill the Great Commission in 21st Century, in the spirit of Ecumenism !
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CC & CC … bringing a New Pentecost ‘awakening’ to this World & the Church of the Apostles to ‘feed’ them for a lifetime / eternity !
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**Yep!

Just tell em’ what THEY WANT to hear and they will flock to your man-made; recent invention faith.

God is One

Therefore God’s OWN Faith MUST also be ONLY One’

And in the entire bible God has always had just one chosen people or One Church.

WHY?**

Because like our God; TRUTH is singular. AND because God is both Good and Perfect we can [and ought to] know that God did not wait for Henryl Luter, Calvin, Smith or the “sinners prayer” to make HIS Will known.🙂

Jesus gave the ONLY set of Key’s to heavens access to Peter and the Catholic Church. where they have remained for 2.000 years AND counting:D

And that my friend is why not only should we NOT join the protestants; but CANNOT abandon God to do so.[Heb. 6:4-10]

God Bless you,
Pat/PJM
 
brb3 said:
… I’m saying my Bishop, upon hearing my conversion to Catholic Church … was surprised I felt so compelled to leave my Protestant brethren, saying that the Protestants were saved just like the Catholics, and didn’t need to convert to Catholic Church. He said the CC’s understanding on this changed with Vatican 2. Before, it was believed an imperative— but after Vat. 2, no longer essential or taught as so by the Pope and Magi.

**Was he wrong **?
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Most definitely
But I’m inclined to believe that you misunderstood him rather badly since as we’ve all seen here so far, you don’t seem to understand much about why it’s important to share the authentic Catholic faith.

You want a good Catholic salvation tract?
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I carry a supply with me whenever I go out and share them all the time.
 
brb3 said:
I came across this interesting article …from 1995, on Catholic and Evangelical cooperation. This clearly establishes that Campus Crusade for Christ founder, Bill Bright, had strong Catholic inclinations / affections !

www.catholiceducation.org/articles/apologetics/ap0025.htm

also … a few years back, 2000 CRU staff/leaders formed EOC [Evangelical Orthodox Church] … and later made full conversion to the Orthodox Church in Serbia. What do Catholics make of this phenom ?
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Which part of they are still not Catholic do you not understand?

The fact is that 4 SL is nothing more than another gospel.
Who REALLY Preaches “A Different Gospel”?
 
Church_Militant said:
Most definitely
But I’m inclined to believe that you misunderstood him rather badly since as we’ve all seen here so far, you don’t seem to understand much about why it’s important to share the authentic Catholic faith.

You want a good Catholic salvation tract?
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                                                                        CIL Tract: Sound Bites on Salvation (set of 25)
I carry a supply with me whenever I go out and share them all the time.
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Militant …

You are amazing ! The evangelizer Catholic extrodinare’ … who loves tracts !! You know how a picture can be worth a thousand words. The lost need to grasp the gospel message . and tracts with pictures, diagrams and scripture … is an ideal way to get across the message in a short time. Plus, they are left with those to review again later, and pray about.

But, don’t be so quick to trod on our Protestant brethren. God loves the evangelizers of the Gospel message. They may lack affiliation with the Apostles church … but, God will eventually bring many of them in to her … if we present a Catholic Church that is ‘open’ and ‘welcoming’ to them. Their faith is just a great as ours … and they often have more ‘good works’ to show/proclaim their faith. What irony … for the Catholics to ponder !!

I noticed you didn’t address the Campus Crusade / Evangelical Protestants who turned to Orthodox Church. Did you take heart and approve what you saw there ?
 
guanophore said:
A–I guess the Baptists and Pentecostals I was with were different than the ones you know. 😃

B–I am glad. However, the majority of Baptists are not like this.

C–Now that you have discerned what the Pope needs to do, what do YOU need to do
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A-- Yes, you must of met the lapsed ones …

B – Yes … most Baptists and Pentecostals are not possessed of ill-will towards Catholics or any others.

C – Obey our Popes and Church teachings, and spread the Gospel via Ecumenism and Evangelization to & with our Protestant brethren. Christ could not of been any more clear on need for proclaiming gospel message … until he returns again, not just in that 1st century. Protestants take that ‘command’ seriously … do we Catholics also ?
 
Pope Francis on Wed. 22, May encouraged Catholics to ‘work with’ those of other Christian denoms … so, that would certainly give us the go-ahead to engage in joint Evangelization endeavors with our Protestant brethren.

Text taken from Mark 9:38-40 … where Christ says if others are doing good deeds, and not working against us … then, they are ‘with us’ !

Many of the Protestant Evangelicals fit this description — those we can be united with / work with … since they are ‘with us …IN CHRISTOS’ !
 
brb3 said:
Pope Francis on Wed. 22, May encouraged Catholics to ‘work with’ those of other Christian denoms … so, that would certainly give us the go-ahead to engage in joint Evangelization endeavors with our Protestant brethren.
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I honestly don’t think he is visualizing that Catholics should be converting people to the Baptist Church.
Text taken from Mark 9:38-40 … where Christ says if others are doing good deeds, and not working against us … then, they are ‘with us’ !
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And text taken from your link show that they are indeed working against Christ’s Church, and trying to get Catholics to join false churches.
 
brb3 said:
Bill Bright developed a dynamic, winning idea for a tract 50 years ago. It forms the heart for the very successful evangelism efforts of non-denominational Protestant organization called Campus Crusade for Christ.

link: www.4laws.com/laws/english/flash/
Its 4 Spiritual Laws and Sinner’s Prayer … have brought millions to discover a Personal Relationship with Christ.

Lets join the CC [Catholic Church] with the CC [Campus Crusade] ----- brother/sisters working together to fulfill the Great Commission in 21st Century, in the spirit of Ecumenism !

CC & CC … bringing a New Pentecost ‘awakening’ to this World & the Church of the Apostles to ‘feed’ them for a lifetime / eternity !
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I wondered how long it would take you to reach this point.
Have you now decided to go ahead pull out all the stops and just start Proselytizing BRB?
Are you trying to see how far you can push the mods?
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brb,
you are spreading so many falsehoods in this thread one hardly knows where to begin.
As I have told you many times in the past, you cannot have one foot in the Catholic world and the other in the evangelical world. At some point you have to choose.
 
That’s odd…the Vatican site says something quite different on May 22nd. though he does speak of evangelization.
POPE FRANCIS
GENERAL AUDIENCE
Saint Peter’s Square
Wednesday, 22 May 2013
Dear Brothers and Sisters: In our catechesis on the Creed, we now pass from the article on the Holy Spirit to that on the Church, “one, holy, catholic and apostolic”. The Holy Spirit and the Church are in fact inseparable. The Spirit enlivens and guides the Church, and each of us within the Church, to carry out Christ’s mandate to make disciples of all peoples. He opens minds and hearts to the beauty and truth of the Gospel. The Spirit overcomes selfishness and division, creating unity, communion, reconciliation and love. The Spirit also instils the strength needed to bear courageous witness to the Risen Christ; he is the spirit of mission and evangelization. The fire of the Holy Spirit was sent down upon the Apostles at Pentecost in answer to their fervent prayer; ardent prayer in the Spirit must always be the soul of new evangelization and the heart of our lives as Christians. Let us renew each day our trust in the working of the Holy Spirit, open our hearts to his inspiration and gifts, and strive to be signs of unity and communion with God in the midst of our human family.
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Those interested in other things that His Holiness has recently said about evangelization might also be interested in this link.
 
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at this. 🤷

What a sad state of affairs lately.😦
 
brb3 said:
… I’m saying my Bishop, upon hearing my conversion to Catholic Church … was surprised I felt so compelled to leave my Protestant brethren, saying that the Protestants were saved just like the Catholics, and didn’t need to convert to Catholic Church. He said the CC’s understanding on this changed with Vatican 2. Before, it was believed an imperative— but after Vat. 2, no longer essential or taught as so by the Pope and Magi.

Was he wrong ?
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What a sad state of affairs indeed. I’m getting more and more depressed.

Let me guess. I bet he gives communion to pro-abort “Catholic” politicians too.
 
Lucky7 said:
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at this. 🤷

What a sad state of affairs lately.😦
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Brb’s been doing this for years on this site. Her constant pushing of evangelical/fundamentalist philosophy, trying to combine it with Catholic theology has had the opposite effect for her. In trying to evangelize Catholics, she has failed miserably. Nobody on CAF takes her seriously anymore.
Its actually rather sad.
 
Lucky7 said:
What a sad state of affairs indeed. I’m getting more and more depressed.

Let me guess. I bet he gives communion to pro-abort “Catholic” politicians too.
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I find her story very hard to believe.
 
brb3 said:
… I’m saying my Bishop, upon hearing my conversion to Catholic Church … was surprised I felt so compelled to leave my Protestant brethren, saying that the Protestants were saved just like the Catholics, and didn’t need to convert to Catholic Church. He said the CC’s understanding on this changed with Vatican 2. Before, it was believed an imperative— but after Vat. 2, no longer essential or taught as so by the Pope and Magi.

Was he wrong ?
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I would like verification of this. How do we contact this Bishop hear it from his own mouth?
 
brb3 said:
nope …

the 4 Laws and Sinner’s Prayer are c/w Catholic theology. They are scripturally based and formulated on firm theologic grounds. However, I do concede that some of CRU’s 25,000 staff, of many different Protestant backgrounds, may propose that converts attend their particular denominational church… for a few Sundays, if the convert has never been churched before.
We can certainly accept that does happen, its human nature to think our ‘church’ is the one and best of the bunch. But, the basic 4 Laws and Sinner’s Prayer is ‘rock-solid’ Apostolic understanding of the 11 and Paul … given them by Tradition, and later expressed in scripture when it was inspired of God and penned by the Christian writers of 1st century.
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As has been explained to you time and time and time again, that is a lie.
The fact that you keep coming to CAF spouting the same lie after it has been explained to you reveals you have an agenda.
 
JustaServant said:
I find her story very hard to believe.
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Granted it may not be true, but lately, I just wouldn’t be surprised by it anymore. I don’t see Catholic leaders speaking of the Catholic Church as the one, true Church and the surest way to Heaven, do you?
 
Lucky7 said:
Granted it may not be true, but lately, I just wouldn’t be surprised by it anymore. I don’t see Catholic leaders speaking of the Catholic Church as the one, true Church and the surest way to Heaven, do you?
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There are many Bishops and priests that speak up for the Catholic Church.
That’s why I asked her for verification.
She has an agenda.
 
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