The organisation behind the Idol (Pachamama) disposal

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Polak said:
he did it because he disagreed with the idols being in the church, but another part of him was also thinking about how if he does this, it will be major news, and when he reveals himself, he will be mentioned all over the media (the Catholic media at least) and will become much more prominent.
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I believe he did it because he disagreed with the idols in the Church. I suspect a lot of the media is contacting him rather than him contacting the media. I would also suspect that if he felt strongly enough about the error of having pagan idols in the Church to get on a plane and fly to Rome and remove them, he may feel just as strongly about talking about the errors of idols in the Church.
 
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Polak:
he did it because he disagreed with the idols being in the church, but another part of him was also thinking about how if he does this, it will be major news, and when he reveals himself, he will be mentioned all over the media (the Catholic media at least) and will become much more prominent.
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I believe he did it because he disagreed with the idols in the Church. I suspect a lot of the media is contacting him rather than him contacting the media. I would also suspect that if he felt strongly enough about the error of having pagan idols in the Church to get on a plane and fly to Rome and remove them, he may feel just as strongly about talking about the errors of idols in the Church.
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Or there is a more realistic motivation and that is that this convert from Lutheranism fundamentally antagonistic towards all pagan influence in the development of Christianity such as Aristotle, Plato, Socrates… is not a discerning activist for Catholic dialogue and inculturation.
 
vz71 said:
You too?
I must have missed it.
Can you post a link to the documentation indicating intentional damage or defacement?
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I thought there was a video of someone taking a statue from a church and throwing it in the river… an I wrong? I could have sworn I saw it with some young buck bragging about it to his friends
 
Ammi said:
But you dont mind a pagan goddess to infiltrate the faithful?
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This young fella would have to throw a lot more stuff out of the average Catholic Church in order to eradicate the influence of paganism
 
Oh, so now he has to have impeccable motives?

And you are going to be the judge of his motives?

I dont even judge the motives of those in the Vatican garden scandal. Because it doesnt matter. It is still wrong because the pachamama is an idol. It doesnt belong in the Church or the liturgy.
 
godisgood77 said:
I thought there was a video of someone taking a statue from a church and throwing it in the river…
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And the damage or defacing?

Remember, if you are going to accuse, you need to be able to show the crime.

Unless they intentionally damaged or defaced the idol, it was NOT vandalised.
 
vz71 said:
Unless they intentionally damaged or defaced the idol, it was NOT vandalised.
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If you throw a statue in to a river, it is damaged and defaced… and if you throw it into a river it was intentional … what are we arguing here?

There’s video … and a confession
 
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godisgood77:
I thought there was a video of someone taking a statue from a church and throwing it in the river…
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And the damage or defacing?

Remember, if you are going to accuse, you need to be able to show the crime.

Unless they intentionally damaged or defaced the idol, it was NOT vandalised.
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This is the most distorted reasoning I’ve seen for a while. 2 of the 5 figures weren’t even recovered. How you can deem these characters innocent of crime is mind blowing.
 
godisgood77 said:
If you throw a statue in to a river, it is damaged and defaced… and if you throw it into a river it was intentional … what are we arguing here?

There’s video … and a confession
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The act does not necessarily lead to vandalism.

Where is your documentation?
You are accusing people, you should be able to show a crime having taken place.
 
godisgood77 said:
Here you go buddy…

The Pope of the Catholic Church referring to the vandals as vandals
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The headline certainly makes that claim.
But the article tells a different story.
Nowhere in the article does the Pope claim vandalism.

And from the article:
The pope also said that the statues, which floated, had been recovered by Italian police. The statues, “which created such a media clamor,” he said, “were not damaged.”

Which means that vandalism did NOT occur.
 
So if John the Baptist, or an Apostle did it, you think Jesus would have said “Stop! Only I can do that!”?

We are in the Year of our Lord. We have His Spirit.

I believe this was an inspired event. Regardless of how Holy or unholy the men were
 
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