The Pope Drops Catholic Ban on Condoms in Historic Shift

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Pope Benedict XVI will this week signal a historic shift in the position of the Roman Catholic Church by saying condoms can be morally justified.

After decades of fierce opposition to the use of all contraception, the pontiff will end the Church’s absolute ban on the use of condoms.

He will say that it is acceptable to use a prophylactic when the sole intention is to “reduce the risk of infection” from Aids.

While he will restate the Catholic Church’s staunch objections to contraception because it believes it interferes with the creation of life, he will argue that using a condom to preserve life and avoid death can be a responsible act - even outside marriage.

Asked whether “the Catholic Church is not fundamentally against the use of condoms,” he replies: "It of course does not see it as a real and moral solution.

“In certain cases, where the intention is to reduce the risk of infection, it can nevertheless be a first step on the way to another, more humane sexuality.”

He will stress that abstinence is the best policy in fighting the disease, but accept that in some circumstances it is better for a condom to be used if it protects human life.

"There may be justified individual cases, for example when a male prostitute uses a condom, where this can be…a first bit of responsibility, to redevelop the understanding that not everything is permitted and that one may not do everything one wishes.

“But it is not the proper way to deal with the horror of HIV infection.”

The groundbreaking announcement will come in a book to be published by the Vatican next week based on the first face-to-face interview given by a Pope.

In the interview, he admits he was stunned by the sex abuse scandal that has engulfed the Catholic Church and raises the possibility of the circumstances under which he would consider resigning.

Passages published exclusively in The Sunday Telegraph today reveal the 83-year-old pontiff saying he is aware his “forces are diminishing”, but show a Pope determined to fight for the place of faith in the public square.

His language in attacking the use of recreational drugs in the West and its impact on the rest of the world is particularly striking, describing drug trafficking as an “evil monster” that stems from the “boredom and the false freedom of the Western world.”

Most significant, however, are his comments on condoms, which represents the first official relaxation in the Church’s attitude on the issue after growing calls from cardinals for the Vatican to adopt a more humane approach to stopping the spread of HIV.

Although the Pope’s ruling is aimed specifically to stop people infecting their partners, particularly in Africa where the disease is most prevalent, it will inevitably be seized upon by liberal Catholics in Britain who oppose the Church’s longstanding stance against contraception.
 
High-profile Catholics including Cherie Blair have stated publicly that they use birth control.

The move by Pope Benedict is particularly surprising because he caused controversy last year by suggesting condom use could actually worsen the problem of Aids in Africa.

He described the epidemic in the continent as “a tragedy that cannot be overcome by money alone, that cannot be overcome through the distribution of condoms, which even aggravates the problems”.

The Vatican later amended an official version of the Pope’s remarks to indicate that he said merely that condoms “risk” aggravating the problem.

However, there have been growing calls for the Church to clarify its position with a more humane response to the problem, with theologians stating that condoms are not a contraceptive if they are intended to prevent death rather than avoid life.

Pope Benedict’s comments in the book, called Light of the World, are likely to be welcomed by Catholic leaders in the west who have struggled to explain its current teaching.
Asked last year whether a married faithful Catholic couple should use condoms where one of them had Aids, Archbishop Vincent Nichols, head of the Church in England and Wales revealed the confusion over the issue.

“Obviously that’s a very sensitive point and obviously there are different views on that,” he said.

Hardline Catholics are likely to be surprised and dismayed by the Pope’s comments as they argue that condoms can only be used as contraceptives.

There has been great anticipation ahead of the release of the book, heightened by its author, Peter Seewald, who teased that it could be “a big sensation”.

“It is the first time that a Pope gives an account of himself in this form,” he said.

“It is the first personal interview with a Pope in the Church’s history.”

According to sources in Rome, he gives his most personal account to date of the distress caused to him by the clerical sex abuse scandal, with particular reference to the cases in Germany and Ireland.

He says that he did not consider resigning over the crisis, but does raise the possibility of a Pope resigning if he was to lose his mental capacities.

In extracts given to the Sunday Telegraph, he remembers the last time he saw John Paul II, his predecessor; talks of his reluctance to become Pope; and speaks of his increasing frailty.

“I had been so sure that this office was not my calling, but that God would now grant me some peace and quiet after strenuous years,” he says.

“I trust that our dear Lord will give me as much strength as I need to be able to do what is necessary. But I also notice that my forces are diminishing.”

Pope Benedict came in to office with a reputation for being hardline and dogmatic, but he appears humble and conciliatory in the interview.

He says that it is incorrect to think of the Pope as “an absolute ruler whose thinking and will are law”, adding that Catholics should not be seen as his subordinates.

"In that respect the Pope is, on the one hand, a completely powerless man.

“On the other hand, he bears a great responsibility.”
The pontiff is highly critical of the “craving for happiness” in the West, which he says leaves a trail of destruction in its wake.

“I believe we do not always have an adequate idea of the power of this serpent of drug trafficking and consumption that spans the globe,” he says.

"It destroys youth, it destroys families, it leads to violence and endangers the future of entire nations.

This, too, is one of the terrible responsibilities of the West: that it uses drugs and that it thereby creates countries that have to supply it, which in the end exhausts and destroys them."

He continues: “A craving for happiness has developed that cannot content itself with things as they are.”

Talking about sex tourism, he says: “The destructive processes at work in that are extraordinary and are born from the arrogance and the boredom and the false freedom of the Western world.”
 
As usual the media takes comments out of context…this is not what Pope Benedict was saying at all. They’ll take any snippet they can, wildly distort it, and try to undermine the Church. Condoms are still banned - I hope Catholics don’t believe this story, though it is spreading fast around the news. Hopefully people will take the time to read what he actually said and not take the misleading headlines, like the title of this thread, as truth.
 
funny can not find anything outside of the UK making this announcement.
 
I don’t get it, he could have said “In a case where a husband or wife is infected with HIV it may be morally permissible to use a condom” but no, he talked about a male prostitute. I don’t see this as much as a relaxing of the rules as much as a “If you’re going to sin maybe it’s better that you don’t kill anyone else while doing so.”
 
More media distortion. Always looking for anything that might justify immoral behavior.

Peace,
Ed
 
As usual the media takes comments out of context…this is not what Pope Benedict was saying at all. They’ll take any snippet they can, wildly distort it, and try to undermine the Church. Condoms are still banned - I hope Catholics don’t believe this story, though it is spreading fast around the news. Hopefully people will take the time to read what he actually said and not take the misleading headlines, like the title of this thread, as truth.
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I don’t get it, he could have said “In a case where a husband or wife is infected with HIV it may be morally permissible to use a condom”
The pope didn’t say that because that is not what he wanted to say. He did NOT “lift the ban” on condom usage.

What he DID say was:

"Benedict said that condoms are not a moral solution. But he said in some cases, such as for male prostitutes, they could be justified “in the intention of reducing the risk of infection.”

Benedict called it “a first step in a movement toward a different way, a more human way of living sexuality.”

He used as an example male prostitutes, for whom contraception is not an issue, as opposed to married couples where one spouse is infected."

(bold is mine)
 
If what is being reported is in fact true, I am dissapointed.

How can the use of condoms involving sodomy between two men be more justified than a catholic marriage involving condoms which has created lets say 6 children in 12 years?
 
Wow, the title could not have been more misleading! :mad:

Even reading these comments out of context, it is pretty clear that the Pope is not dropping a ban on condoms.

If the Pope really wanted to make a change in the Church’s teaching, it wouldn’t be in an interview for a book!
 
I don’t know how I feel on the matter, really. I know that teenagers are having sex a lot lately, often times without condoms. I would like it if the schools taught “abstinence first” education, to at least remind teens that they can make that choice. There is so much pressure right now.

And then one of my relatives caught HPV, either from when she had sex with or without a condom, because HPV can be caught even with a condom. And her exboyfriend played the whole, oh just let me stick it in once game, and also told her a guy has a string that needs to be broken.

All these kinds of thing, my relative would have known was absolutely false, if they had gotten a proper education in sexual health. And all of these things, obviously avoidable if they had not fornicated.

I certainly don’t think the church should approve of condoms but current times are so messed up. And my relative can confess her sins but she can’t be cured of HPV.
 
Misleading title to the referenced “news”.

Ranking ordering moral acts…wearing a condom with HIV is less severe a moral assault than not wearing a condom with HIV.

Big news.
 
It is interesting that the Holy Father refers to male prostitutes, and such an example should have made it obvious to the media what his true thoughts on the matter were/are. Prostitution of either sex is highly immoral anyway, and an assault on the dignity of man and the sexual act. When sex is reduced to this level, condom use may only be ‘effectual’ in reducing further, temporal consequences. But this is not ‘acceptable’.
 
I’m going to go out on a limb, knowing only what’s in that article, and say that’s a load of bunk. It’s preposterous.

Are we to believe from that sentence, which seems odd and incomplete without context, that prostitution is now also permissible?

I just don’t believe it, and, if I had to guess, in context, the statements have precisely the opposite meaning.
 
Setting aside all the media hyperbole, is there a book being published next week based on an interview with H.H. Benedict Pp XVI?
 
Setting aside all the media hyperbole, is there a book being published next week based on an interview with H.H. Benedict Pp XVI?
That may be the only true thing that was said. The book is Light of the World: The Pope, The Church and The Signs Of The Times by Peter Seewald. Here is the amazon link: amazon.com/dp/1586176064?tag=whatdoesthepr-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=1586176064&adid=06MEQE27QBJX5RJK2XY6

Some comments from the author here: catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/11/19/peter-seewald-i-know-of-few-young-people-so-alive-so-curious-and-so-modern-as-the-pope/
 
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