The QAnon movement

[Shakuhachi]

We have seen that people will believe whatever they want to beleive.

 

[JonNC]

It was the FBI who obtained 4 FISA warrants, not the Obama administration.

Obama’s FBI.

Also need to remember that it was many members of Trump’s team who ultimately plead guilty or were convicted of the crimes.

Virtually none had anything to do with conspiracy collusion.

Lets not forget where the illegal activities were actually taking place.

The report of that isn’t out yet.

 

[whatistrue]

Obama’s FBI.

Of the 2 Directors during Obama’s administration, only one was nominated to the office by him. The FBI doesn’t “belong” to the President, much to some president’s dismay.

 

[goout]

We have seen that people will believe whatever they want to beleive.

True that. In all areas of life from politics to religious life. P Francis is subject to some of that right now.

 

[JonNC]

JonNC:

Obama’s FBI.

Of the 2 Directors during Obama’s administration, only one was nominated to the office by him. The FBI doesn’t “belong” to the President, much to some president’s dismay.

Well, with Comey, Strzok, Page, Orr and numerous others, the FBI was certainly not under Trump’s control.

 

[whatistrue]

Which is as it should be. Law enforcement should be apolitical, as hard as that is to achieve in reality.

 

[TMC]

Of the 2 Directors during Obama’s administration, only one was nominated to the office by him. The FBI doesn’t “belong” to the President, much to some president’s dismay.

Yes, that is why the FBI Director serves a ten year term. It is not a political position, and the term is deliberately designed to not match up with the political cycles.

 

[whatistrue]

Exactly. Or at least it shouldn’t be political. We can try anyway.

 

[JonNC]

Which is as it should be. Law enforcement should be apolitical, as hard as that is to achieve in reality.

They were partisan in their ties to Obama.

 

[jofa]

According to some “Q’s”, Mother Theresa was a sex trafficker. Pretty much encapsulates the insanity.

 

[whatistrue]

They were partisan in their ties to Obama.

Someone appointed by Obama’s predecessor had ties to Obama? Forgive me if I take this with a very large grain of salt.

 

[JonNC]

Someone appointed by Obama’s predecessor had ties to Obama? Forgive me if I take this with a very large grain of salt.

Take it any way you want, but the evidence of Comey’s collusion in the release of the Clinton-Russian Dossier by Buzzfeed is undeniable. His deception in his meeting with Trump about the Dossier is clear.

 

[whatistrue]

Oh, Buzzfeed. Forgive me if I take anything they claim with a block of salt.

 

[JonNC]

Oh, Buzzfeed. Forgive me if I take anything they claim with a block of salt.

They are the ones who published the dossier based on the claim that Comey shared the information with Trump.

 

[whatistrue]

Another digression. Whatever. I repeat that law enforcement is, or at least should be, apolitical. Done with this.

 

[JonNC]

Another digression. Whatever. I repeat that law enforcement is, or at least should be, apolitical. Done with this.

And the Obama people proved they were not.

 

[Jeanne_S]

fun isn’t the word I would use to describe the chaos we are dealing with currently

 

[JonNC]

Tell yourself whatever you need to. Muting thread.

Mute away…

 

[Nononony]

fun isn’t the word I would use to describe the chaos we are dealing with currently

220% tongue in cheek.

 

[StudentMI]

While I find QAnon ridiculous, I do think Americans are too quick to dismiss conspiracies.

Conspiracies are a fact of life. There was a conspiracy to launch the Iraq war based on false WMDs. There was a conspiracy around the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

Why not Pearl Harbor, Oklahoma City, etc?