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Because there is no such thing. We are told to believe in a non-existent premise
You don’t want to see the clear teaching of God.Because there is no such thing. We are told to believe in a non-existent premise
Exactly! Demons’ faith doesn’t save. So if you are talking about demons’ faith, I will surely say “you need to have good works” so that you may prove that your faith is the Christian faith.James 2:
<<14 What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him? 15 And if a brother or sister be naked, and want daily food:
16 And one of you say to them: Go in peace, be ye warmed and filled; yet give them not those things that are necessary for the body, what shall it profit? 17 So faith also, if it have not works, is dead in itself. 18 But some man will say: Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without works; and I will shew thee, by works, my faith. 19 Thou believest that there is one God. Thou dost well: the devils also believe and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, offering up Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou, that faith did co-operate with his works; and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled, saying: Abraham believed God, and it was reputed to him to justice, and he was called the friend of God. 24 Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only? 25 And in like manner also Rahab the harlot, was not she justified by works, receiving the messengers, and sending them out another way?
26 For even as the body without the spirit is dead; so also faith without works is dead. >>
“You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.” ( James 2:19 )What is demon’s faith?
There is no mention by James of “demon’s faith”, is there?
Hebrews chapter 11 is often called the faith chapter. All the saints are mentioned as having a faith that pleased God. But what kind of faith did they have? A faith of just believing? Or a faith that obeyed what God expected ? Notice each of the persons and what it says prior to what they did. It says. BY FAITH so and so did this. Their faith brought forth a response on their part.
Now this leads us to the hopeless sinner. Can a sinner be saved by believing in Jesus? Certainly. But is that all our dear Lord requires of the sinner to do to be born again? No, it's not. Jesus said all men MUST be born again. They must be water baptized as well. Also Paul says in Acts 17:31 that God expects ALL men to repent. So we see here in just these three scriptures that faith embraces MORE than just believing to receive God's salvation and forgiveness. Much more.
Faith alone advocates just pick n choose the scriptures that speak of believing and totally ignore the OTHER scriptures which speak of repentance, baptism and obedience to the church thereafter. This is called misapplying the whole of the scripture and making a "shipwreck" of the faith.
You’re right, in James 2:19 he does talk about what kind of faith the demons have. But the kind of faith the demons have is faith alone, since they do not have faith working through love (James 2:17; Galatians 5:6). The preceding verses (and thus the entire context of the passage) make this crystal clear.Peace!
Exactly! Demons’ faith doesn’t save. So if you are talking about demons’ faith, I will surely say “you need to have good works” so that you may prove that your faith is the Christian faith.
But Christian faith lives!
In Love,
Yaqubos†
YAQUBOS said:“For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.” ( Ephesians 2:8-9 )
In Love,
Yaqubos†
Yes we are saved by God's grace, but God's grace is RECEIVED THROUGH the sacraments of the church. Pennance, baptism and the Eucharist all impart the forgiveness of sins, which is granted to us by God's grace.
Your right, 'f’aith alone is death.…“There is a way which seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.” ( Proverbs 16:25 )
Just a note, you forgot the CONTEXT of the verse. By not reading verse 10 you lost the meaning. Most protestants ignore verse 10 too so don’t feel bad. It proves the your use ov the verse out of context.…“For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.” ( Ephesians 2:8-9 )
Even the Devil believes in Jesus.What is demon’s faith?
There is no mention by James of “demon’s faith”, is there?
Picking and choosing Scriptures is done by both sides of the Tiber, like using Matt.16:18 to define Peter’s authority and refusing to see the many other verses which show otherwise.If one is saved by faith ALONE, then what need is there of repentance and baptism. Let alone confessing one’s future sins to God in the future? One could make a momentary confession of belief in Christ in one’s youth and afterwards continue to live as the rest of the world. But the bible certainly does not teach such non sense. Faith embraces belief in Christ, but belief in Christ is not all that faith embraces. Faith embraces ALL that Christ desires for us TO DO.
Hebrews chapter 11 is often called the faith chapter. All the saints are mentioned as having a faith that pleased God. But what kind of faith did they have? A faith of just believing? Or a faith that obeyed what God expected ? Notice each of the persons and what it says prior to what they did. It says. BY FAITH so and so did this. Their faith brought forth a response on their part.
Now this leads us to the hopeless sinner. Can a sinner be saved by believing in Jesus? Certainly. But is that all our dear Lord requires of the sinner to do to be born again? No, it’s not. Jesus said all men MUST be born again. They must be water baptized as well. Also Paul says in Acts 17:31 that God expects ALL men to repent. So we see here in just these three scriptures that faith embraces MORE than just believing to receive God’s salvation and forgiveness. Much more.
Faith alone advocates just pick n choose the scriptures that speak of believing and totally ignore the OTHER scriptures which speak of repentance, baptism and obedience to the church thereafter. This is called misapplying the whole of the scripture and making a “shipwreck” of the faith.
Richard,Because there is no such thing. We are told to believe in a non-existent premise