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Did I not read people saying the “smoke of Satan was in the Vatican”?
Report says clergy sexual abuse brought ‘smoke of Satan’ into church
By Jerry Filteau
Catholic News Service
WASHINGTON (CNS) – In its report Feb. 27 on the causes of the U.S. clergy sexual abuse crisis, the National Review Board said “grievously sinful” acts of priests and inaction by bishops let “the smoke of Satan” enter the church.
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Pope Paul VI’s “Smoke of Satan” Referred to Liturgical Abuse
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From WDTPRS:
On the site Petrus there is an interview by Bruno Volpe with His Eminence Virgilio Card. Noè, [pronounced “No-eh”] “former papal MC, the predecessor of Archbp. Piero Marini.
These are very interesting comments. He speaks of the phrase of Paul VI that the “smoke of Satan” had entered the Church and what Paul VI meant by that phrase.
My translation and emphases.**
Exclusive: the revelation of Card. Noè:” When Paul VI denounced the smoke of Satan in the Church, he was referring to liturgical abuses following Vatican II.”
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marysanawim.wordpress.com/2009/03/15/pope-paul-vis-smoke-of-satan-referred-to-liturgical-abuse/
Why Paul VI saw liturgical abuses as the 'smoke of Satan’
Cardinal Virgilio Noe
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The Vatican “hiding something”?
People in the Vatican have “given themselves over to the Evil One”?
We do that every time we sin!
I thought I read that somewhere…correct me if I am wrong.
I do not see you challenging these statements when they are posted. This whole thread stinks and you aren’t helping matters one bit. Instead you attack me, why?
You are not adding anything constructive to the discussion…and that does surprise me of you. I thought, after all this time, you would have the spiritual maturity and discernement to be able to discuss this matter objectively.
Is that because I point out how thoroughly despicable this subject is, and how bad it makes your church look… and that embarrasses you?
It does not make the Church look bad at ll…just the people in it. No different than any other scandal that exists at this present time.
This subject is not despicable. It needs to be discussed, even if it s not winnable…
Why should non-Catholics of any sort want to get mixed up with the kind of sludge being slung about here? And to think all of this mess is inspired by an apparition!
This is beneath you and does not open our eyes to anything. It just might be revealed the other way around…
There will always be a mess after an apparition…that is how the devil works after Our Lady appears. In any of the authenticated apparitions approved by the church. As this one is…
If I was to post something like “Marian apparitions are the smoke of Satan” you would have my head. But it’s apparently Ok for Catholics to suggest that about the Vatican.
It was a Pope himself who declared this…
What ever… perhaps the smoke of Satan has infiltrated the threads in Catholic Answers Forums! … something appears to be tearing at the inner fibre of your church.
A little drama here…I am sure the mods would discern such smoke…
Why would we Orthodox want to get mixed up in your Vatican, if that is how it is?
Because they need to return to the one, true Catholic Faith, that is why.
Don’t tell me in one breath that we need your Pope and in another that he and his Vatican apparatus is hiding something!
Our Pope is holy…and so is the Church…I question the agenda of some of the prelates…we must pray…
What a disappointment …
It is true. This whole thing is disappointing. Let us pray with sincere hears and minds to follow through with what Our Lady has asked of us…OK?![]()