The Truth About Islam

[staffsgt7]

Did learn any thing more than copy-pasting others’ articles?

Yes that I had to do that in order for Muslims to read the articles. I post on Facebook and other blogs and Muslims won’t click on anything they think is anti-Islam even if it is true. I usually don’t post the whole article but this time I did because Muslims support this inane war against a people that they have been stealing lands from, and killing their people. They get upset when Israel strikes back and all I say is that the Muslims only have to stop firing bombs into Israel and keep the treaties they sign.

I know they will not because more deception in Islam is allowed in regards to making cease fires. They are not supposed to keep these promises because Mohammed told them not to keep them.

When is it going to occur to you how demented all of this is? Forcing others to abide by Islam’s rules are pure dementia. How would you like it if people made you abide by some pagan religion’s rule? Pay taxes to them, show humiliation and have no rights and freedoms, and if they get sick and tired of you they start kidnapping your children and raping them and forcing them to convert to their pagan religion and marry them? And when they really get sick and tired of you they will start destroying your mosques and killing you. Sometimes torturing you beyond recognition before finally killing you?

Why do Muslims waste so much energy telling us how peaceful Islam is when they don’t clean up their laws, Koran and people who are warring?

 

[friendship]

Staffsgt7, You have no trustwotthy refrences to confirm your claims. The links and books you read can’t say any thing out of first islamic history books because these books are only books in first centeries written about prophet Muhammad. Western orientalists wrote many books whitch are full of lies about him, about his message and even about his body! But when what they say doesnot exist in first history books absolutly we can’t rely them.

 

[friendship]

I study many books in confirming Islam and many anti-islam books and articles. You think you can say some anti-islam things whtich I didn’t read before? You couldn’t yet! You can’t give any trustworthy refrences. I on my Persian Weblog answer many anti-islam articles and it will be countiued.

 

[staffsgt7]

Staffsgt7, You have no trustwotthy refrences to confirm your claims. The links and books you read can’t say any thing out of first islamic history books because these books are only books in first centeries written about prophet Muhammad. Western orientalists wrote many books whitch are full of lies about him, about his message and even about his body! But when what they say doesnot exist in first history books absolutly we can’t rely them.

I either take my stuff from the Koran or Sunnah. Some stuff I take straight out of your book of Sharia laws and usually give references to them.

It is your texts and the behavior of Muslims that verify most of what I write. The ones who are not warring are ones like you doing nothing but telling us junk about Islam. Islam isn’t peaceful, it doesn’t preach love, and it doesn’t preach tolerance to others and what has been mentioned before it doesn’t preach the Golden Rule. the Golden Rule is treat others how you want to be treated. We see by Muslims actions that they think they are to dominate over others and if they don’t want to be Muslims then they are to be either killed or accept subjugation. Accepting subjugation is a gnat’s hair above slavery. And on the news right now I am listening to the Christians being persecuted in Egypt.

Silence by the majority of Muslims is telling too. Since none of them are working to change Sharia laws or their Koran that means they are accepting of it and only telling us a bunch of hogwash about Islam being anything other than what I just stated.

 

[staffsgt7]

I study many books in confirming Islam and many anti-islam books and articles. You think you can say some anti-islam things whtich I didn’t read before? You couldn’t yet! You can’t give any trustworthy refrences. I on my Persian Weblog answer many anti-islam articles and it will be countiued.

Then let me ask you this, what are you doing to change the misunderstanders of Islam known as your Jihadists waging wars for Allah’s Cause and to tell them that they are misunderstanding Islam? What are you doing to change Sharia laws and the Koran? What websites do you blog on to work to changing the misunderstanders of Islam?

Telling us we misunderstand it doesn’t make sense. We are seeing the behavior of Muslims. Either the majority are silent and do nothing about the violence in Islam, give zakat and might know or not know that it goes to support the Jihadists waging violent Jihad but still do nothing to stop them. You know, those that yell ‘allahu akbar’ while aiming for unarmed civilians. Or they are waging the violent Jihad.

I have read and heard things from Muslims before about things. If an unbeliever knows about Jihad and Mohammed they are bashed. If an unbeliever falls for the garbage that Mohammed wasn’t a pervert or a mass murderer and a lying thief then they are ok and all is good and holy with the Muslims.

Haven’t you figured out why Mohammed told you guys not to take a Koran with your into new lands, or that we are not to discuss Islam? It is because if the people read it and got a hint of what it was all about Muslims would be banned. It is an ideology bent on domination and any means to get there is acceptable. Terror, deception, violating the women, etc are all acceptable means according to Mohammed because Mohammed did those things.

Part of that terror included killing unbelievers if they dared to discuss Islam and talk about Mohammed. Where are the majority of Muslims in all of this? You keep ignoring my request to tell me what are you doing to change Sharia laws and the Koran and to change them not only by telling us that but DOING it and making those changes in Muslim lands.

 

[friendship]

I either take my stuff from the Koran or Sunnah. Some stuff I take straight out of your book of Sharia laws and usually give references to them.

It is your texts and the behavior of Muslims that verify most of what I write. The ones who are not warring are ones like you doing nothing but telling us junk about Islam. Islam isn’t peaceful, it doesn’t preach love, and it doesn’t preach tolerance to others and what has been mentioned before it doesn’t preach the Golden Rule. the Golden Rule is treat others how you want to be treated. We see by Muslims actions that they think they are to dominate over others and if they don’t want to be Muslims then they are to be either killed or accept subjugation. Accepting subjugation is a gnat’s hair above slavery. And on the news right now I am listening to the Christians being persecuted in Egypt.

Silence by the majority of Muslims is telling too. Since none of them are working to change Sharia laws or their Koran that means they are accepting of it and only telling us a bunch of hogwash about Islam being anything other than what I just stated.

You must where in sunnah and Where in Quran. If we read your sources absolutly it’ll be clear that most of things are lies.

 

[friendship]

Then let me ask you this, what are you doing to change the misunderstanders of Islam known as your Jihadists waging wars for Allah’s Cause and to tell them that they are misunderstanding Islam? What are you doing to change Sharia laws and the Koran? What websites do you blog on to work to changing the misunderstanders of Islam?

Telling us we misunderstand it doesn’t make sense. We are seeing the behavior of Muslims. Either the majority are silent and do nothing about the violence in Islam, give zakat and might know or not know that it goes to support the Jihadists waging violent Jihad but still do nothing to stop them. You know, those that yell ‘allahu akbar’ while aiming for unarmed civilians. Or they are waging the violent Jihad.

I van answer you but you must ask 1 question and I asnwer, If you had any other question about that, you ask a new qurestion. attack is easier than defence.If you try to ask many question I have no time for answering you. in next days my will be more limited and may I one day in a week to forum.

 

[staffsgt7]

I van answer you but you must ask 1 question and I asnwer, If you had any other question about that, you ask a new qurestion. attack is easier than defence.If you try to ask many question I have no time for answering you. in next days my will be more limited and may I one day in a week to forum.

I guess two questions in one sentence was too much to ask. Pick one - what are you doing to change anything within Islam for Muslims in Muslim lands?

 

[staffsgt7]

You must where in sunnah and Where in Quran. If we read your sources absolutly it’ll be clear that most of things are lies.

I will only post a few since there are so many I don’t want to confuse. And don’t start telling me that these don’t apply since these are what Sharia laws are based on. This is why both the Koran and Sharia laws need to change if people like you want to get anywhere or to be believed.

If they don’t apply then the Koran is not for all people for all times. It was meant for some tribal miscreants to go out and kill others.

Quotations from the Koran about killing Christians:

2:190-193 Fight in the cause of God, those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out: For tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; But fight them not at the sacred Mosque unless they first fight you there; But if they fight you, Slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression."

2:216-217 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But God knoweth, and ye know not. They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: "Fighting therein is a grave (offense); but graver is it in the sight of God to prevent access to the path of God, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members. Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be Companions of the Fire and will abide therein.

2:244-245 Then fight in the cause of God, and know that God heareth and knoweth all things. Who is he that will loan to God a beautiful loan, which God will double unto his credit and multiply many times? It is God that giveth (you) want or plenty, and to Him shall be your return.

4:74-77 Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter, to him who fighteth in the cause of God, whether he is slain or gets victory, soon shall We give him a reward of great (value). And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? Men, women, and children whose cry is: “Our Lord! rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from Thee one who will protect; and raise for us from Thee one who will help!” Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil: so fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan. Hast thou not turned thy vision to those who were told to hold back their hands (form fight) but establish regular prayers and spend in regular charity? When (at length) the order for fighting was issued to them, behold! a section of them feared men as, or even more than, they should have feared God: they say: “Our Lord! why hast Thou ordered us to fight? Wouldst Thou not grant us respite to our (natural) term, near (enough)?” Say: "Short is the enjoyment of this world: the Hereafter is the best for those who do right: never will ye be dealt with unjustly in the very least!

4:95-96 **Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of God with their goods and their persons. God hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). **Unto all (in Faith) Hath God promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward: Ranks specially bestowed by Him, and Forgiveness and Mercy. For God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

 

[friendship]

I guess two questions in one sentence was too much to ask. Pick one - what are you doing to change anything within Islam for Muslims in Muslim lands?

Please, explain your Question. I don’t understand what you mean.

 

[friendship]

About your refrences from Quran, let’s talk 1 by 1 later. Now I want answer your question, If explain that.

 

[friendship]

Wow! as a school textbook? My countrie is one of biggest enemies of zionism but I never in school book readed any thing about these protocols, Even in university books!!!

In sharia of Islam, hoaxe others(مکر) is forbidden.

 

[staffsgt7]

Please, explain your Question. I don’t understand what you mean.

How many times have I asked?

What are you doing to change the Koran, or the Sharia laws that they are dependent on, in Muslim lands so your violent Jihadists stop misunderstanding Islam?

Some things that would have to change would be:

• toleration for others
• giving equality to unbelievers, hypocrites and your own Muslim women
• when men kill because someone is not a Muslim then telling them they will pay for their crimes in jail, give them a trial, and depending on the degree of murder (intent) then dole out punishment and tell those same men that killing will not get them some virgins and little boys to rape for eternity. Tell the women that training their children to be martyrs is wrong and that it isn’t an easy way to get them into their heaven either.
• stop slavery
• stop the hatred and name calling of others in children’s schools
• stop the pediphilia or marrying off children as young as 1 yr old.

Something tells me that understanding my question will not get me anywhere because doing these things will delete Islam.

 

[friendship]

How many times have I asked?

What are you doing to change the Koran, or the Sharia laws that they are dependent on, in Muslim lands so your violent Jihadists stop misunderstanding Islam?

Some things that would have to change would be:

• toleration for others
• giving equality to unbelievers, hypocrites and your own Muslim women
• when men kill because someone is not a Muslim then telling them they will pay for their crimes in jail, give them a trial, and depending on the degree of murder (intent) then dole out punishment and tell those same men that killing will not get them some virgins and little boys to rape for eternity. Tell the women that training their children to be martyrs is wrong and that it isn’t an easy way to get them into their heaven either.
• stop slavery
• stop the hatred and name calling of others in children’s schools
• stop the pediphilia or marrying off children as young as 1 yr old.

Something tells me that understanding my question will not get me anywhere because doing these things will delete Islam.

Most of things you’re saying are accusal.

But in Islam law is in two: first law and second law. first law never changes but second law may change. I think more of islamic law these days we see in Islamic countries are second laws. But I don’t know exactly whitch of laws are second and witch are second, but I know some examples. I say one of them. In Iran it is forbidden to have gun, But it is a second law and Quran and ahadith didn’t oreder to this, but on the base of conditions in Iran like many other contries it is forbidden to have gun in house. second law is a way for flexibility in sharia and it helps Islam to be a modern relegion.

I’ll answer your next question tomorrow, inshallah.

 

[staffsgt7]

Most of things you’re saying are accusal.

But in Islam law is in two: first law and second law. first law never changes but second law may change. I think more of islamic law these days we see in Islamic countries are second laws. But I don’t know exactly whitch of laws are second and witch are second, but I know some examples. I say one of them. In Iran it is forbidden to have gun, But it is a second law and Quran and ahadith didn’t oreder to this, but on the base of conditions in Iran like many other contries it is forbidden to have gun in house. second law is a way for flexibility in sharia and it helps Islam to be a modern relegion.

I’ll answer your next question tomorrow, inshallah.

I don’t want you to explain your laws to me. I can read.

I want to know what you and any others are doing to change them to be less barbaric and atrocious?

I don’t want more double talk because that is all you are giving me. As for accusal, that is only in your mind. I am asking about your laws and about your Koran. If you Muslims keep them as they are then all you are doing is giving us a bunch of hogwash.

 

[staffsgt7]

“NAIT is a not-for-profit entity that qualifies as a tax-exempt organization under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code. NAIT was established in 1973 in Indiana by the Muslim Students Association (MSA) of the United States and Canada, the predecessor of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), by some of the same Muslim Brotherhood members who started the MSA.”

The federal terrorism trial evidence from the Holy Land Foundation (HLF) is the same evidence the Domestic Intelligence Briefing is using to take down the MSA on our high school (and eventually all public school) campuses.

(I have already written that the MSA is a front group for the Muslim Brotherhood.)

Another man indicted on funneling money to Hamas This article brings out a lot about the tangled web of the Muslim Brotherhood’s front groups in our land. NAIT, MSA, ISNA are just a few of them.

This is some of the truth about Islam. That they wage Jihad in our lands and in this case they are waging it with their tongues and with their wealth. (Sharia laws o9)

The goal is the same as the violent Jihad. It is to establish sharia laws in our lands, to give us the options of death, conversion or subjugation if we don’t want conversion. People like me (atheist) do not have that last option. It is reserved only for people of the book.

If you do chose to look into this further you will see how they wrap the aura of holiness around their obvious political moves to undermine our society. There is no Islam as it is now without politics. There is no attempt to change it either.

4:95-96 Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of God with their goods and their persons. God hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath God promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward: Ranks specially bestowed by Him, and Forgiveness and Mercy. For God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

 

[jakasaki]

Dzheremi, Your mom didn’t educated you to be debonair? Absolutly not. Welcome to my Ignore list. In fack you must cropper there before jakazaki. You are one of most boisterous christians I ever met. I don’t read and answer your posts, more.

Oh DZ, you’re in the same “ignore pen” as me now. I don’t feel lonely anymore.!!!

Shall I pour us a few cocktails?

 

[dzheremi]

That sounds lovely, Jakasaki. It can’t hurt to have a little beverage while we watch Friendship’s house of cards collapse in on itself.

 

[jakasaki]

That sounds lovely, Jakasaki. It can’t hurt to have a little beverage while we watch Friendship’s house of cards collapse in on itself.

This whole thing reminds me of a “girl school bully” who beats everyone up in order for them to to say “she is beautiful”, otherwise, if they tell the truth and tell her is ugly as hell, they’ll get their brains beat out!!!.

That’s how I see it.

Be well my dear “ignore pen friend”…

Oh, BTW, our dear friend JC might be joining us, I’ll be ready and prepare some good ol’ Irish Whiskey for him.

 

[jakasaki]

Nonsense & hogwash my dear friend… … A good ol’ Irish Whiskey or Guinness Stout for you…!

No si-si cocktails allowed in the “ignore pen”… …